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  1. from sweetness-light.com

    Co-Workers: Obama Inflated His Resume

    It has been noted by Charles Krauthammer and others that very few people have stepped forward to vouch for Barack Obama.

    Indeed, there would seem to be an especially conspicuous absence of witnesses to the years after graduated from Columbia and before he moved to Chicago to work as a community organizer.

    Well, it turns out that one of his co-workers has in fact written about Mr. Obama during those days. And while he is an admitted fan of Obama’s, he claims that he has inflated his resume considerably.

    Others who worked with Obama at Business International have subsequently chimed in.

    First, Mr. Obama’s version as presented in from Dreams From My Father, pp 55-6:

    CHAPTER SEVEN

    … And so, in the months leading up to graduation, I wrote to every civil rights organization I could think of, to any black elected official in the country with a progressive agenda, to neighborhood councils and tenant rights groups. When no one wrote back, I wasn’t discouraged. I decided to find more conventional work for a year, to pay off my student loans and maybe even save a little bit. I would need the money later, I told myself. Organizers didn’t make any money; their poverty was proof of their integrity.

    Eventually a consulting house to multinational corporations agreed to hire me as a research assistant. Like a spy behind enemy lines, I arrived every day at my mid-Manhattan office and sat at my computer terminal, checking the Reuters machine that blinked bright emerald messages from across the globe. As far as I could tell I was the only black man in the company, a source of shame for me but a source of considerable pride for the company’s secretarial pool. They treated me like a son, those black ladies; they told me how they expected me to run the company one day…

    Nevertheless, as the months passed, I felt the idea of becoming an organizer slipping away from me. The company promoted me to the position of financial writer. I had my own office, my own secretary, money in the bank. Sometimes, coming out of an interview with Japanese financiers or German bond traders, I would catch my reflection in the elevator doors-see myself in a suit and tie, a briefcase in my hand-and for a split second I would imagine myself as a captain of industry, barking out orders, closing the deal, before I remembered who it was that I had told myself I wanted to be and felt pangs of guilt for my lack of resolve.

    Then one day, as I sat down at my computer to write an article on interest-rate swaps, something unexpected happened. Auma called. I had never met this half sister; we had written only intermittently…

    [A] few months after Auma called, I turned in my resignation at the consulting firm and began looking in earnest for an organizing job…

    We are supposed to believe that “something happened” and the rest is history.

    Here, however, is a somewhat different perspective on Obama’s halcyon days as a “spy behind enemy lines,” from a site called Analyze This:

    Barack Obama Embellishes His Resume

    July 9th, 2005

    Dan Armstrong

    Don’t get me wrong - I’m a big fan of Barack Obama, the Illinois freshman senator and hot young Democratic Party star. But after reading his autobiography, I have to say that Barack engages in some serious exaggeration when he describes a job that he held in the mid-1980s. I know because I sat down the hall from him, in the same department, and worked closely with his boss. I can’t say I was particularly close to Barack - he was reserved and distant towards all of his co-workers - but I was probably as close to him as anyone. I certainly know what he did there, and it bears only a loose resemblance to what he wrote in his book.

    Here’s Barack’s account:

    Eventually a consulting house to multinational corporations agreed to hire me as a research assistant. Like a spy behind enemy lines, I arrived every day at my mid-Manhattan office and sat at my computer terminal, checking the Reuters machine that blinked bright emerald messages from across the globe. As far as I could tell I was the only black man in the company, a source of shame for me but a source of considerable pride for the company’s secretarial pool.

    First, it wasn’t a consulting house; it was a small company that published newsletters on international business. Like most newsletter publishers, it was a bit of a sweatshop. I’m sure we all wished that we were high-priced consultants to multinational corporations. But we also enjoyed coming in at ten, wearing jeans to work, flirting with our co-workers, partying when we stayed late, and bonding over the low salaries and heavy workload.

    Barack worked on one of the company’s reference publications. Each month customers got a new set of pages on business conditions in a particular country, punched to fit into a three-ring binder. Barack’s job was to get copy from the country correspondents and edit it so that it fit into a standard outline. There was probably some research involved as well, since correspondents usually don’t send exactly what you ask for, and you can’t always decipher their copy. But essentially the job was copyediting.

    It’s also not true that Barack was the only black man in the company. He was the only black professional man. Fred was an African-American who worked in the mailroom with his son. My boss and I used to join them on Friday afternoons to drink beer behind the stacks of office supplies. That’s not the kind of thing that Barack would do. Like I said, he was somewhat aloof.

    … as the months passed, I felt the idea of becoming an organizer slipping away from me. The company promoted me to the position of financial writer. I had my own office, my own secretary; money in the bank. Sometimes, coming out of an interview with Japanese financiers or German bond traders, I would catch my reflection in the elevator doors—see myself in a suit and tie, a briefcase in my hand—and for a split second I would imagine myself as a captain of industry, barking out orders, closing the deal, before I remembered who it was that I had told myself I wanted to be and felt pangs of guilt for my lack of resolve.

    If Barack was promoted, his new job responsibilities were more of the same - rewriting other people’s copy. As far as I know, he always had a small office, and the idea that he had a secretary is laughable. Only the company president had a secretary. Barack never left the office, never wore a tie, and had neither reason nor opportunity to interview Japanese financiers or German bond traders.

    Then one day, as I sat down at my computer to write an article on interest-rate swaps, something unexpected happened…. I had never met this half sister; we had written only intermittently. …[several pages on his suffering half-sister] …a few months after Auma called, I turned in my resignation at the consulting firm and began looking in earnest for an organizing job.

    What Barack means here is that he got copy from a correspondent who didn’t understand interest rate swaps, and he was trying to make sense out of it.

    All of Barack’s embellishment serves a larger narrative purpose: to retell the story of the Christ’s temptation. The young, idealistic, would-be community organizer gets a nice suit, joins a consulting house, starts hanging out with investment bankers, and barely escapes moving into the big mansion with the white folks. Luckily, an angel calls, awakens his conscience, and helps him choose instead to fight for the people.

    Like I said, I’m a fan. His famous keynote speech at the Democratic National Convention moved me to tears. The Democrats - not to mention America - need a mixed-race spokesperson who can connect to both urban blacks and rural whites, who has the credibility to challenge the status quo on issues ranging from misogynistic rap to unfair school funding.

    And yet I’m disappointed. Barack’s story may be true, but many of the facts are not. His larger narrative purpose requires him to embellish his role. I don’t buy it. Just as I can’t be inspired by Steve Jobs now that I know how dishonest he is, I can’t listen uncritically to Barack Obama now that I know he’s willing to bend the facts to his purpose.

    Once, when I applied for a marketing job at a big accounting firm, my then-supervisor called HR to say that I had exaggerated something on my resume. I didn’t agree, but I also didn’t get the job. But when Barack Obama invents facts in a book ranked No. 8 on the NY Times nonfiction list, it not only fails to be noticed but it helps elevate him into the national political pantheon.

    By the way, there should be no doubt as to Mr. Armstrong’s bona fides on this subject. Even the New York Times has cited him as an authority for an article on this period of Mr. Obama’s storied life.

  2. I am biased, and so are you. That misses the point.

    Her dismal performance in the interview has nothing to do with my being a lawyer. If she sat for medical boards or sat for an interview as a corporate executive, and gave answers like that, she would have been summarily rejected.

    Put your biases aside, Bern, and actually look at the interview. That's the point: we all have biases, we have to put them aside as best we can. You're making no apparently effort to do that. Plainly, she had no idea what she was talking about.

    I haven't looked at it yet but I will. And I'll certainly be looking forward to the debates. So far, popular as Palin is, she hasn't really impressed me.

    Basic mistakes such as saying "under God" during the pledge of allegiance is good because it was good enough for the founding fathers tells me she has no idea at all of our history and our constitutional founders philosophy.

    There are other concerns. To tell us we should support Georgia, if need be going to war with Russia is ridiculous. She's simply espousing the neocon line of assertive dominance. Dangerous.

  3. If someone applied for an executive position, and then gave a job interview like the interview Palin just gave with Charles Gibson, the interview would have been quickly ended and her resume would have been tossed immediately into the garbage.

    She's obviously not qualified.

    It's ridiculous that she's still being seriously considered.

    Many people were impressed with her at first, but I predict that will turn around. Reasonable people are going to change their minds on this one, and she's going to become a liability to the McCain ticket.

    John McCain should be ashamed of himself for putting the country, his party and her in this position.

    Are you sure you're not biased in favor of your legal brethren? You have the two lawyers, Obama and Biden running against the two who are not.

    I said the above because a lawyer I know told me that he feels Palin is not competent because she's not a lawyer (we were talking about Palin, so McCain's name didn't come up). I guess he feels that political leadership should only be given to the elite of the legal bar. Keeping the business in house.

    What did Shakespeare say about lawyers? :lol:

    I'll be able to judge Palin better after watching her debate Biden.

    But the people of Alaska, who should know her best, gave her a vote of confidence. Before her selection, Alaska favored McCain over Obama by 44 to 39%. Now its McCain vs Obama by 64 to 33%. Quite a margin. Those who she governs feel she is confident.

  4. If someone asked me what the Bush doctrine was, I would also go blank. Bush comes up with a new doctrine every six months. I would also ask for clarification of what is being asked, as would 99% of the population.

    Asking without giving additional context is ridiculous.

  5. This comment from Democrat Mark Penn says it pretty well

    CBSNews.com: Your former colleague Howard Wolfson argued that you all unintentionally paved the way for Palin by exposing some of the unfair media coverage that Hillary Clinton received. And, therefore, a lot of the media may now be treating Sarah Palin with kid gloves. Do you agree with that?

    Mark Penn: Well, no, I think the people themselves saw unfair media coverage of Senator Clinton. I think if you go back, the polls reflected very clearly what "Saturday Night Live" crystallized in one of their mock debates about what was happening with the press.

    I think here the media is on very dangerous ground. I think that when you see them going through every single expense report that Governor Palin ever filed, if they don't do that for all four of the candidates, they're on very dangerous ground. I think the media so far has been the biggest loser in this race. And they continue to have growing credibility problems.

    And I think that that's a real problem growing out of this election. The media now, all of the media — not just Fox News, that was perceived as highly partisan — but all of the media is now being viewed as partisan in one way or another. And that is an unfortunate development.

    CBSNews.com: So you think the media is being uniquely tough on Palin now?

    /Mark Penn: Well, I think that the media is doing the kinds of stories on Palin that they're not doing on the other candidates. And that's going to subject them to people concluding that they're giving her a tougher time. Now, the media defense would be, "Yeah, we looked at these other candidates who have been in public life at an earlier time."

    What happened here very clearly is that the controversy over Palin led to 37 million Americans tuning into a vice-presidential speech, something that is unprecedented, because they wanted to see for themselves. This is an election in which the voters are going to decide for themselves. The media has lost credibility with them.

  6. You just made the central point of this topic and you don't even seem to realize it. You just admitted that McCain made a political choice that you think has won him votes. Whether it wins him votes come November remains to be seen. But the very fact that you put this in terms of winning votes, and not in terms of who is best suited to be VP, proves that you're more interested in the election than you are in the country's welfare.

    Duuuh. The VP selection is primarily to help the nominee get the most votes. There are also personal factor, such as having a VP who does not overshadow the President. Its always been that way. Biden, was picked because of his Catholic working class roots.

    Kennedy picked Johnson, who was then an extremely popular southerner, to get the southern vote.

  7. And so the amateur has goes to the master for help

    In the midst of all this, Mr. Obama had a private lunch on Thursday with someone he battled with for much of the year but who knows how to put the Republicans on the defensive: former President Bill Clinton. Discussion topics, aides said, included how Mr. Obama might handle Ms. Palin in the days ahead.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/12/us/polit...wanted=2&hp

    :rolleyes:

    The Democratic party super delegates must really be wondering if they picked the right guy.

  8. And today's Sarah Palin scandal is . . .

    . . . e-mail-gate. Sarah Palin refuses to release 1,100 e-mails, which she wrote on state time, in her capacity as governor. She can't claim otherwise because she is hiding behind the standard "we don't want to show you these!" tactic of executive privilege. Executive privilege for the governor of Alaska? Give us a break! What national security secrets is she protecting?

    What we do know about the 1,100 e-mails that Palin and her handlers don't want us to see is that her husband was included as a recipient of many of them --- which completely destroys any credible argument about executive privilege.

    Sarah Palin is a freaking joke!

    This is like watching Britney Spears run for Vice President. The only question is whether the American people can get through the shock-value news coverage to the reality.

    You may find this hard to believe but its true that the governor of a state is the chief executive of that state. They do have executive privilege. Every governor of every state has used that privilege.

    I don't know if she is hiding something or not. But even if not, the point of executive privilege is to enable the executive to be candid, to be able to make decisions without having to work behind layers of lawyers reviewing everything.

  9. Yep, Obama screwed up. He greatly overestimated the honor of his opponents.

    :blink:

    I don't think so. No one in politics depends on "honor" to set their political strategy. Obama or his handlers screwed up because, frankly, they're not competent. This is the big time, where you need to get the vote of the whole electorate.

    Mouthing "change" or "we can do it" is nice for the party faithful, the primary voters who put him in. The real electorate, the ones who actually elect the president, would like to see something substantial.

  10. Palin has done what McCain needed. Get him additional votes.

    Unlike Obama, whose pick of Biden has gotten him nada.

    Obama we now know made a big mistake in the critical VP selection. McCain hit home run. Which shows me that so far McCain electioneering judgment is far better than Obama's (or his handler's).

    Meanwhile, even Biden seems to be questioning Obama's judgement

    Democratic vice presidential nominee Joe Biden veered wildly off message Wednesday, telling a town hall meeting in New Hampshire that the former First Lady might have been a smarter pick than him for No. 2.

    "Hillary Clinton is as qualified or more qualified than I am to be vice president of the United States of America - let's get that straight," Biden said testily after a voter said he was "very pleased" that Democratic nominee Barack Obama had chosen him instead of Clinton.

    "She is qualified to be President of the United States of America, she's easily qualified to be vice president of the United States of America and, quite frankly, it might have been a better pick than me," the Delaware senator added forcefully. "I mean that sincerely, she is first- rate."

    I'll leave this quote for thought

    Biden's big regret is that he's running with Obama, not Hillary. After you really get to know Obama, as Biden has now done, you realize that Obama is an empty suit. - MikeO
  11. I got news for you. The American people, by and large, are stupid. Stupid, lazy and apathetic. If they weren't, candidates like McCain couldn't get away with this crap.

    Comments like this are a reason why McCain may win. Your type of comment is repeated and shown all over Middle America as an example of elitist liberal thinking.

  12. Army of Dude

    Reporting On Truth, Justice And The American Way Of War

    http://www.armyofdude.blogspot.com/

    . . .

    Correct. Obama has shown that he cares more more our troops and veterans by his votes in support of extended benefits for them. Obama is also correct on item 4 (I hope he keeps his word). We need to set a timetable to stop giving the Iraqi government a blank check. Otherwise, they will never step up. They'll be like some welfare clients, expecting a permanent free ride.

    I disagree with item 3, the Afghanistan white elephant. Why do we feel such a need to control and regulate Afghanistan? And don't tell me its to free the Afghanistan's. There are many countries and people in need of freedom. To catch terrorists? That takes intelligence and good police work, not the military occupation of a country. Haven't we learned any lessons by now?

  13. It is absolutely hilarious reading the rabid spins, distortions and outright lies about Sarah Palin. The Kool-Aid left is in a panic, they see the excitement over this woman as a threat to their rock star Obama. I hope they keep it going right up to election. Women will decide this election and the more women feel Palin's being picked on unfairly, the more Palin will win their support. How ironic it will be that the Loonies helped elect McCain/Palin.
    Of course there will be spins, distortions and at times lies. Show me one political campaign that has not had them.

    Of course you are happy about all this teeth gnashing and drama over Palin. We now see that McCain's pick was a good, effective pick for his campaign (and he was heavily criticized when he picked her). The Obamites are worried and it shows.

    I've seen some really nasty comments about Palin, her daughter, and many of Palin's strong positions. The nasty comment posters don't realize that their comments don't play well in Middle America. You can bet many of the denigrating comments are shown to Middle America with "look what the latte liberals think of you".

  14. I debating even responding to this post but felt that some people mught actually think this post is accurate.

    1. The first two weeks of the new semester are always hectic with schedule changes and getting classes to the size they need to be

    2. there is a BRAND NEW computer program for scheduling that has some issues....the guidance dept. did not make the program nor were they asked for their imput on getting a new program. They are simply doing their job

    3. If more parents were concerned about their children's grades and their future prospects, we wouldn't have so many students who need to "repeat" classes for failures or for not adhering to the attendance policy

    4. Mr. Somma has stepped up and done a fantastic job wearing two hats in the buidling. He doesn't complain, he doesn't neglect either responsibility.

    5. Do you know that the Guidance Dept came in on their own time over and over again during the summer to help with the transition? The didnt contact the Union and ask to be represented for more money nor did they give a "no" when administration called and asked for help.

    6. This is a classic case of blaming the people who you see and not punishing those who truly created the problem.

    It seems the problem was created by the school administrators.

    There is something seriously wrong with a school administration that purchases a scheduling program without input from the Guidance department.

    Students do fail and they at times do need to repeat. It is part of and expected in the educational process. If the school can't handle that, again, there is something lacking in their administration.

    Planning is poor when the administration needs to call in extra help to manage their "summer" issues.

    I'm not blaming the Guidance department. But I am blaming the administration, district or school level. And it is the school board's responsibility to make sure there is a competent and efficient administration.

  15. Then you're not thinking straight. When you talk about change, you have ask what you want things changed from. You can talk about voting with the Democrats all you want; the Democrats haven't been in control of the government since 1993, so their policies aren't the ones that caused this mess. It doesn't make sense to talk about things that were never passed into law - not because the Congress didn't act but because the Congress didn't have enough votes to get anything past Bush's veto.

    The policies that have gotten us into this mess are those of the Bush administration and the Republicans in Congress; from 2001-2007, Congress and the White House were both controlled by the Republicans. They did what they wanted to do, which is why we're in the mess we're in today.

    Here are the main problems with the Bush administration that need changing from:

    --- huge tax cuts aimed toward benefiting the super-rich, which resulted in the average American losing ground economically:

    --- Obama will replace them with tax cuts aimed at helping the middle class, the people who need it

    --- McCain would make Bush's unfair tax cuts for the super-rich permanent

    --- the worst foreign policy blunder in our history, the Iraq war

    --- Obama will get us out on a timetable that has been endorsed by the Iraqi government

    --- McCain will keep us there indefinitely

    --- terrorism

    --- Obama wants to fight the terrorists where they are, in Afghanistan

    --- McCain wants to continue ignoring terrorism to perpetuate Bush's disastrous mistake

    --- crippling dependence on fossil fuels, especially foreign oil

    --- Obama will shift us quickly from fossil fuels as quickly as possible

    --- McCain wants to continue to emphasize oil, which is what got us into this problem in the first place

    --- 47 million Americans have no health insurance

    --- Obama will make sure every American has access to affordable health care

    --- McCain won't

    --- deregulation of the financial sector, which resulted in the mortgage crisis that you and I are going to pay for

    --- Obama will restore necessary regulations

    --- McCain won't

    McCain can't run as the change candidate after his party has been in power and caused the problem. Palin was put on the ticket to fool the people into thinking the Republicans are about change. They're not. She's just a new face carrying the same old neocon ideology that caused the problem.

    There is only one change candidate in this race. His name is Barack Obama.

    Sounds like a compilation of the many talking point from Obama's web site.

    Now that a Democrat wants a war or wants to "complete" a war, its OK, because Obama says we have to fight the "terrorists." How is moving the war from Iraq to Afghanistan any better? You're still in a Middle East war. In the 60's Kennedy and Johnson said it was to fight "communists." Nothing changes. Just the characters and the reasons. What happens when we get bogged down in Afghanistan, draining our resources? Will Obama then declare "victory" and leave or will he ask for additional resources such as a draft? Will you then support his call, whatever it may be? I suspect you will since you are so easily gulled into an Afghanistan war.

    We have had Democratic and Republican administrations and none have even tried to start reducing our dependence on fuel oil. Before his presidential run, Obama was not known for his concern on our dependence. We've been led down the garden path of "we will do something" before.

    “With record gas prices, record CEO pay packages, and record oil company profits, Speaker Hastert and the Majority Congress continue to give the American people empty rhetoric rather than join Democrats who are working to lower gas prices now.

    “Democrats have a commonsense plan to help bring down skyrocketing gas prices by cracking down on price gouging, rolling back the billions of dollars in taxpayer subsidies, tax breaks and royalty relief given to big oil and gas companies, and increasing production of alternative fuels.” - Nancy Pelosi Press Release

    Fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice . . .

    Health insurance? Obama's plan is mostly voluntary and guaranteed to fail. Its like making social security voluntary. After several years only the high risk and indigent will remain in Obama's plan, causing it to fail. We will realize it has failed, whereupon the Republicans will gleefully trumpet that health insurance should never have been changed, and that we must go back to our current system. Real health insurance reformers will not get a real reform in because Obama's failed plan will be used to show that "reform" is a failure. Obama's plan will set real reform back twenty years.

    Financial sector deregulation. I don't think so. I'll let Noam Chomsky explain:

    While Obama says we are going to change that, there’s no indication of what the change is going to be. In fact, the financial institutions, which are his major contributors, think he’s fine, so there’s no indication of any change. But if you say “change,” people will grasp at it; you say “change” and “hope,” and people will grasp at this and say, OK, maybe this is the savior who will bring about what we want, even though there is no evidence for it. - Noam Chomsky

    You can accuse McCain of many things, but his previous actions have shown that one thing you can't accuse him of is ignoring terrorism. Unlike Obama, who before his presidential campaign was never in the forefront of "fighting" terrorism.

  16. Bubba Clinton was exactly right when he said; "this guy is the biggest fairytale of all time". Straight from the mouth of a former president.

    Don't you know Clinton was a racist when he said that. :rolleyes:

    But not to worry, after re-education, both Clinton's have been forgiven. They are now toeing the party line: We love Obama.

    I liked Biden's comment about Obama's lack of experience more:

    Stephanopoulos: "Sen. Clinton, you did [say] Sen. Obama's views on meeting with foreign dictators are naive and irresponsible. Doesn't that imply that he's not ready for the office?"

    Clinton: "I don't think a president should give away the bargaining chip of a personal meeting with any leader, unless you know what you're going to get out of that."

    Stephanopoulos, to Biden: "You were asked: 'Is he ready?' You said, 'I think he can be ready, but right now I don't believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training.'"

    Biden: "I think I stand by the statement."

    Edited to add ---

    To me experience is not that important. But the above shows, if it were, then Obama is unqualified by Biden's own mouth.

  17. It lurks somewhere you're obviously incapable of going, the land of intelligence and common sense.

    If it IS a task from God then let all the Bible thumpers both finance and fight it and let sane, reasonable people get on with their lives.

    That should be the case for any war. Only let those who admit to supporting a war, pay a tax on it.
  18. The mayor should put a GPS tracker in his County car so the taxpayers can track where he goes with his free car. What good for the town employees should be good with the Mayor.

    Someone ask him at the council meeting whether he is willing to subject himself to such an invasion of his privacy.

    The usual hypocrisy of what is good for the employees is not what's good for the boss.

  19. Try and stay awake..........THAT's the point.

    McSame's hypocrisy in running ads asking why Obama didn't pick the runner up in the primaries, one who'd garnered many votes, and then not doing himself what he questions berates his opponent for not doing.

    Yeah, OK, sure, that was the point. :rolleyes:

  20. Wow your right because if you steal one car it's not worth it, stick to the subject or open a new thread.

    How many cars have been stolen? It it worth the cost vs the risk of a car being stolen? Will having a GPS in the car really reduce the car theft risk? Does the town belong to some insurance pool? Did putting in the GPS cut the rates?

  21. I'm not going to argue the pros and cons of abortion. Although the Republicans will try to make that the point, it isn't. Palin denyed that her daughter was pregnant and then was forced to admit it. I'm sure that McCain's people didn't know but that doesn't excuse the lack of judgement in not taking a closer look at all of the issues that surround her.

    When did she deny her daughter was pregnant?

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