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  1. I'm hoping the Loonies keep up their mocking of Sarah Palin, her daughter, her hairdo,and whatever else they can think of. I hope they keep it going right up to the election because every woman that isn't a committed Loony will then vote for her. Won't that be poetic justice, the rabid Obamaniacs will be the reason for the McCain/Palin victory. How sweet it is !!!

    I can see this how this constant denigration of that woman can wear on them, even if they don't support Palin's positions.

    Most of the denigration is because she is a woman - a mother with many children and therefore and she can't handle the VP job, she's a lousy mother because her daughter got pregnant, her hairdo, blah, blah, blah.

    Meanwhile, her accomplishments are denigrated. It takes quite a bit to go from small town mayor to governor of a state and getting the highest approval rating of all the governors.

    Those, here who have criticized her, I'm sure have not accomplished 1/20 as much as Governor Palin.

  2. Not proper parenting and supervisor is the lazy/cowardly way out, which is what brought us to uniforms. We can go round and round with this topic, but the truth is uniforms are happening...so get used to it. The grammer schools going to uniform is fine now, everyone has adjusted and it really is cheaper. I'm in favor of uniforms for many reasons. But if your TRULY against your child in grammer or high school to be uniformed then don't make them wear it. So what if they get suspended, you can home school them where they can sit home in their pajamas all day...then at 3:00 dress ANYWAY they want while they walk the Avenue. Problem solved! :rolleyes:

    Well good for you. You like uniforms, then buy away. Nothing has ever prevented you from buying uniforms for your little darlings. But don't try to enforce your beliefs on others.

    Try suspending them, depriving them of their state mandated education because they don't wear your local school board mandated uniforms. See what happens if enough get the guts to sue. Then you better hope you have enough money to pay the higher tax rate that will result when the school board starts paying out for law suits and settlements.

    Among the many components needed to make a uniform policy a success is a clause, known as an opt out, which provides parents with an avenue to remove their children from the policy. The most successful policies in the nation, including the one in Long Beach, California, permit parents to exempt their children from uniforms for any reason. In Long Beach the procedure for obtaining an opt out is simple. Parents seeking an exemption must request, either by mail or in person, an exemption form. They must fill it out and meet with an administrator who will discuss their objections and verify the information contained in their form to prevent fraudulent exemptions ("Guidelines" 4). Loren Siegel, director of public education for the American Civil Liberties union, cautions schools against omitting an opt out provision from uniform policies:

    For a public school uniform policy to be legal, it has to have an opt out provision. Every child in this country has the right to a public school education, and that right cannot be conditioned upon compliance with a uniform policy. Some parents and children will have religious objections to uniforms. Others won’t want to participate for aesthetic reasons. (1)

    http://www.gate.net/~rwms/UniformDWilliams.html

  3. Common sense would also dictate some level of shame in bankrupting this country for an illegal war of aggression, but you won't find any of that in the Bush administration. Classic example of criticizing the other side of what your side is worse with.

    Another example of changing the subject when facts cannot be refuted. It would be better if you did not reply. Less embarrassing than replying in an irrelevant manner.

  4. You're thinking is a perfect example of:

    In theory, theory and practice are the same, in practice they're not.

    When THE BOSS is screwing someone just WHO do you think is going to do the firing? It happens far more often than you apparently think.

    Like this

    Harry Stonecipher, the steady, experienced operator brought in to head Boeing 15 months ago following one scandal, was ousted as chief executive today following allegations of an improper relationship with a female company executive.

    Boeing shares fell to $57.96 in pre-market trade in New York, down by 42 cents.

    Boeing announced that Mr Stonecipher would be replaced by its chief financial officer, James Bell, on an interim basis.

    The board, which Boeing said "asked for and received" Mr Stonecipher’s resignation, took action following an investigation into "a personal relationship between Mr Stonecipher and a female executive of the company who did not report directly to him".

  5. If you really want to talk about ethics violations let's talk about selling weapons to an enemy, THAT's an ethics violation, not to mention treason. Yet Resmuglicans bow down and worship the man who did it. Makes consensual sex look like nothing in comparison.

    You can't argue the reply, so you change the topic. :rolleyes:

    If you're in a high school debate and the other person argues a fact or made an assertion and you responded as above, you would get a big fat F.

  6. If she knew her daughter was pregnant, how could she accept the VP nod? There is nothing that sells news like a sex scandal. Did she think that no one would find out? The poor judgement on her part and on McCain's part have brought a world of hurt to this kid. How could a mother do that to her daughter?

    Like you know. Maybe the Palin family talked about it and her daughter said, go for it mom.

    The convenient and easy out would have been an abortion. Then no one would know and there would be no debate.

    But unlike the pro-abortionists, maybe they really care for their unborn child, enough to let everyone know about the pregnancy and keep the baby even though it is a political liability. They feel that you should not throw embryos in the garbage when they are "inconvenient."

    You know what is the basic difference between an embryo and a born baby? The embryo is a human being living on its mother's life support system. The embryo develops in its mothers womb before birth, as does the baby after birth - until CNS maturity.

  7. Did what? Had unforced sex? You must have a very sheltered life. Sex in the workplace between boss/subordinate is very common, bosses are often the biggest and most frequent offenders against company policy. There's never been any indication that Lewinsky's dalliance with Clinton was anything but her choice.

    Not in this day and age. Its an instant career killer. Not only will you be terminated, you will also be blacklisted. No company can afford to hire someone who dallies with his or her subordinates.

    There are certain circumstances when romantic or sexual relationships are expressly prohibited, unless managed as described below:

    1. if between a supervisor and his/her supervised employee,

    2. if between a faculty member and his/her student (including without limitation graduate students),

    3. if between a supervising staff or student (including graduate student or teaching assistant) and his/her student, and/or

    4. if between a senior faculty member and a junior faculty member supervised by the senior faculty member.

    The university considers sexual relationships between faculty (including teaching assistants and laboratory supervisors) and their students or between supervisors and their employees, even if deemed to be mutually consenting relationships, to be a basic violation of professional ethics and responsibility when one party has any professional responsibility for the other's academic or job performance or professional future. Because of the asymmetry of these relationships, "consent" may be difficult to assess, may be deemed not possible, and may be construed as coercive. Such relationships also may have the potential to result in claims of sexual harassment.

    http://studentaffairs.case.edu/office/hand...consensual.html

    The above rules are the standard for all American (and every other modern industrialized country). Sex between bosses and their subordinates cannot be condoned, even if "consensual", because the work relationship makes it coercive.

    Maybe in African countries like Uganda you can do this stuff.

  8. Do you enjoy wearing those blinders? Consensual adult sex has been going on in the workplace for decades and was hardly new during Clinton's term.

    Please cite EXACTLY when/where Monica has ever testified under oath that she felt coerced into sex.

    Failing that we'll all know you're just blowing meaningless smoke and have become a member of the 2DUMB4WORDS club.

    It does not matter if it is consensual. If you screw in the office with an underling and you are found out, you will be terminated. It is a serious ethics violation.

    If you worked in a business environment, within the last 20-30 years, you would know that.

  9. The shock isn't that he picked a woman, the shock is that he picked one with so little background, especially after running ads questioning why Obama didn't pick Clinton who'd gatnered so many primary votes. How many primary votes did Palin win? Oh, Right! ZERO! NADA! ZILCH!

    Nothing like a little hypocrisy.

    I wouldn't talk about Palin's primary votes considering she was not running.

    However, since you started this, look at Biden, who ran.

    Usually Biden's vote was consistent, about .2 to .3%. For example, in New Hampshire he got 638 votes, .2% of the Democratic primary vote. However, in his home state, Delaware, Biden got an astounding 3% of the vote.

    Whoopeee. What a vote getter. Does Obama know how to pick them? :rolleyes:

    http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide.../states/NH.html

    http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide.../states/DE.html

  10. The criticism is warranted because the article had a gajillion holes in it. It was obviously biased, wasn't sourced and wasn't supported. It was just a collection of claims. It's not my responsibility to check out the crap you've decided to swallow.

    Oh, I see. It had a "gajillion" holes in it, but you decided not to check it. Then how did you figure out it had a "gajillion" holes? Was that bit of "knowledge" inserted into you by divine intervention?

    No wonder so many of you support Obama. You don't review, analyze, study or research. You're like little baby birds, noisily chirping with your mouths open, swallowing whatever vomit is fed you.

  11. Oh yeah, there's a real objective analysis with family information in the first half-dozen or so spots. It doesn't even mention their educational training, and what it does say about them is spun. Who are you kidding?

    So when Madame Obama received her very large raise, right after Obama was elected, was it because she "just" received a new degree or completed some educational certification? The website I posted is somewhat tongue in cheek, but that is factual. The raise Madame Obama received is fact, a matter of public record. Something that was questioned by the Chicago newspapers.

    You realize if your wife worked in private industry, maybe a New York firm, some bs no show job like VP of Community Affairs paying very well, and you were the Deputy Mayor of NYC which gives contracts to that firm, don't you think questions would be raised if your wife all of a sudden gets an extremely large raise to over 300k a year just before you got them a contract?

    ps - I called it a no show job trying to make the above example like Madame Obama's job. She was in the office about twice a week. The rest of the time she was "visiting" the community. You know, VP of "Community Affairs."

  12. Are you guys ever projecting! You never thought a woman would actually be named to a top party ticket and get elected, so you're shocked that McCain picked her. You can't admit that, so your project your non-comprehension onto your opponents.

    Typical right wing stupid.

    No. You guys are shocked that McCain picked a woman. Nothing in politics shocks me.

  13. Not everyone is an 'Obamite' here, first off. Second-Clinton was pulling huge percentages of working-class whites and even larger percentages of Latino voters-who are as big a minority. Racism worked both ways. The fact is, there simply aren't enough black voters to win an election.

    Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...8030500015.html

    (You can find plenty more if you like)

    Once again we've been given a choice between two mediocre candidates. My choice only became certain when McCain chose to pander to the Religious Right with his VP pick.

    True there is also and obviously white racism. That does not make black racism right, and vice versa. And we have two mediocre candidates.

    I'm really picking on the Obamites, because of this constant, insufferable, servile adoration from many of his supporters. Its really disgusting. In a healthy, free democracy, we don't treat our leaders like that.

    As for Palin, her selection to me is a big turn off. She wants to put creationism in our public school science classes, remove sex education and does not believe global warming is caused by us.

    Science, is based on scientific discoveries, testing and inferences from that testing. It is not based on faith. That is why we teach celestial mechanics, astronomy but not astrology. To add creationism or intelligent design to the science curriculum would violate that and also tend to push the religious beliefs of certain religions over others. If you add creationism, I would be right in asking for astrology to be added.

    Removing sex ed has always resulted in higher unwanted pregnancy and sexual disease rates. Since when is keeping someone ignorant a solution?

    Global warming is being demonstrated on us as I write. We've been warned for thirty years this will happen. There is a scientific basis for the carbon dioxide (green house) effect. The warming also is reflected and validated by the environmental computer models.

    It seems Ms Palin is living in the 18th century.

  14. Anyone could have put up that "information" about Obama and the Harvard Law Review. You don't know that it's factual at all.

    Oh, and that being-a-black-guy thing --- yeah, those black guys have had an edge in our politics for years.

    Why don't you do some research and find out if its not factual, before criticizing.

    So you defend black racism with your above comment. Sad to see this type of thinking is still so prevalent.

    Maybe we should just cut all the racism crap. Try not doing any racism and don't excuse if because it was done in the past. And that includes other stuff. So many times I read about some politician doing something reprehensible with people then defending the politician with "yeah but others they did that too" comments or this was done in the past.

  15. No, being a naval officer is not executive experience. You can't compare being a naval officer to being president.

    A person who came up from nothing to become president of the Harvard Law Review, and then came from nowhere to wrest the Democratic nomination from Hillary Clinton does not have a thin resume. In fact, he has an extraordinary resume just on that basis alone.

    He is not a president, yet. You are comparing apples to oranges. It is this type of illogical thinking which has gotten Obama so far.

    But why are people still bringing up experience? Lincoln had none and look what we got.

    Let me talk about Obama’s resume.

    The Harvard Law Review. There have been rumblings, and it seems all is not as you’ve been sold. Obama’s tenure was lackluster, so bat that they couldn’t wait to remove him with someone competent.

    The salient points are listed below. If you go to the link, you’ll see the reason.

    1. Obama was, objectively speaking, a lousy president of the Harvard Law Review.

    2. It's difficult to say how hard Obama tried. He was apparently keeping his grades up (he graduated an impressive magna cum laude), was planning his big book on race and law, advising Blair Underwood of "LA Law," and his heart was in Chicago, where his girlfriend and political future resided. After all, who cares about the Harvard Law Review (other than those clerks of feeble Supreme Court Justices)?

    3. This doesn't prove it, but it fits in with the theory that Obama was intentionally avoiding leaving a paper trail "to maintain my political viability" (as Bill Clinton explained his complicated draft-avoidance plan back during Vietnam).

    4. Obama got a lot more out of the Harvard Law Review than the Harvard Law Review got out of him.

    http://isteve.blogspot.com/2008/02/how-goo...ng-harvard.html

    As, for beating Madame Clinton. They were pretty evenly matched, however Obama went over the top because in many states he got 80 to over 90% of the black vote. If it were a more reasonable black vote, such as 60%, for Obama, then Clinton would have won.

    Examples are Texas

    http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide...e-polls/TX.html

    or North Carolina

    http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide...e-polls/NC.html

    Considering, that Hillary Clinton democrats are being told by the Democratic party to vote for Obama, because their positions are very similar, then why did Obama get such a large margin of votes over Clinton. If they had similar positions, wouldn’t Obama’s vote be about 60%? Not 80 to over 90%?

    Obama got that percentage of black votes because of racism – black racism. Racism was what determined the Democratic party nominee.

    Of course, many of you Obamites will now accuse me of racism for bringing up the truth. However, here is a prominent black legislator admitting it:

    The moment, observes Willie Brown, the former San Francisco mayor and longtime speaker of the California assembly, is like nothing that has ever been realized for a black officeholder. "It's like Michael Jordan and Dr. J. wrapped into one, playing basketball by themselves," says Brown, who is neutral in the presidential race.

    That black voters have so embraced Obama, even against the legacy of the Clintons, is not surprising to Brown. "I think most white politicians do not understand that the race pride we all have trumps everything else."

  16. Why aren't you whining about the obviously sexist choice of Palin?

    Typical Resmuglican hypocrisy?

    What is sexist about it? Are you upset that a woman has escaped from the kitchen? Upset, that the democratic party, the party of diversity, of ethnic and gender groups, has been upstaged by the a woman from the Republican party?

    Palin does not match what you've been spoon fed by the Democratic party does it? And since it doesn't, you have to tear Palin down by marginalizing her. Anything to keep the ethnic and diversity illusions of the Democratic party alive and well.

    Kinder, Kuche, Kirchen - the new motto of the women's branch of the Democratic party.

  17. Common sense tells you a young intern would feel intimidated and afraid to resist the sexual advances of the President. If you don't get that then you're dumber than most Loonies.

    I know if a boss did that in the work place to an underling, he'd be out the door in an instant.

  18. OK try to look at the uniform issue this way:

    there are approximately 1800 students at KHS. Let's say that 100 of these students EVERYDAY disregard the dress code. Do you know how the discipline office handles that situation? according to the rules, the students are sent home to change if a parent/guardian is unable to bring clothing in to the student. This highlights an issue that some in previous post complain about...education. These 100 students are missing CURRICULUM instruction while they are out being disciplined for not following the dress code. The students have to wait until that parent comes in with the clothes (often times the parents dress similiar to their kids so you can see where they get it from) before they can go back to class. For those students that have to go home, do you think they are running home and running back to school....not a chance. So for those discussing "education" there will be a lot less students down at the discipline office and more of them in the classroom.

    So what makes you think they'll follow the uniform dress code if they don't follow the current one? If anything it may get worse.

    Public schools are required to provide education. What are you going to do when some don't wear their uniform? Are you telling me that Kearny has previously deprived their students of their mandated education when they felt their uniform rules were violated? I find that hard to believe.

    Will they deprive them by sending them home? I hope Kearny has a lot of reserve money to pay for those law suits they will lose.

    You can punish by giving after school detentions, cutting their activities, but you cannot deprive them of their education.

  19. Let us know when you learn how to spell and construct a complete sentence. Honestly, why should anyone take you seriously when you make ridiculous remarks and can't even write properly?

    If you're too lazy or not intellectually to up to critiquing the argument, then attack the grammar.

  20. The value of experience is that it shows you what a candidate can do and has done in the past. There are many ways for a candidate to prove her or his merits. When a candidate has as little relevant experience as Palin has, is as radical as she is, has never addressed national issues and has said she isn't interested in foreign policy, her absence of experience is a gaping hole in her resume that counts very strongly against her. The best argument for her is that she is governor of a state, but it's a tiny state whose economy bears virtually no resemblance to our national economy, and she has less than two years on the job. So that little bit of executive experience doesn't come anywhere close to closing that gaping hole. If you take away the politics and look at this like a corporate executive considering a hire, a wise executive would say she isn't qualified and wouldn't hire her. That's not political spin, its the facts.

    I guess then, you would never hire Lincoln.

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