Guest Guest Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 Saturday In ******* Tavern, People were smoking. Why will they not obey the Law. This goes on elsewhere also, Police can not write out tickets, Only health officers. This is a good law, 60,000 people die in New Jersey because of lung cancer each year. And get after the ** ***** on Schuyler they are also breaking the law, Allowing smoking. KOTW Note: The above post was edited for content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Concerned Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 There is an old saying, if you don't like the heat get out of the kitchen !! I think that this new law is ridiculous, a tavern or private club should be able to have either a smoking bar or nonsmoking, just post a sign on the outside of the establishment that say's the above, this way no one is offended, if the bar sign say's smoking, then you don't don't go in then look for a nonsmoking establishment. It is very easy for people to say that it is not fair, that they have to breathe in secondhand smoke, well, this way you are given a choice. Think about all the the people that will lose their jobs, tobacco industry, bartenders, wait staff ( if these places lose customers), there will be more people drinking at home, which mightl increase domestic violence and maybe worse. Like I said post a sign " THIS IS A SMOKING ESTABLISHMENT " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest_resident_* Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 CALL THE BOARD OF HEALTH THE FINE IS $250.00 FOR THE FIRST OFFENSE THE FINE INCREASES THEY HAVE TO BE AWAY FROM THE DOORWAY TO THEY HAVE GO HALF DAY DOWN THE BLOCK CALL THE BOARD OF HEALTH AND MAKE THEM GET A FINE THIS LAW WENT INTO EFFECT 2 WEEKS AGO THANK GOD IT SAVES LIVES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 There is an old saying, if you don't like the heat get out of the kitchen !!I think that this new law is ridiculous, a tavern or private club should be able to have either a smoking bar or nonsmoking, just post a sign on the outside of the establishment that say's the above, this way no one is offended, if the bar sign say's smoking, then you don't don't go in then look for a nonsmoking establishment. It is very easy for people to say that it is not fair, that they have to breathe in secondhand smoke, well, this way you are given a choice. Think about all the the people that will lose their jobs, tobacco industry, bartenders, wait staff ( if these places lose customers), there will be more people drinking at home, which mightl increase domestic violence and maybe worse. Like I said post a sign " THIS IS A SMOKING ESTABLISHMENT " <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The worst part about smoking is that most smokers are slobs, and you're an idot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 CALL THE BOARD OF HEALTH THE FINE IS $250.00 FOR THE FIRST OFFENSE THE FINE INCREASES THEY HAVE TO BE AWAY FROM THE DOORWAY TO THEY HAVE GO HALF DAY DOWN THE BLOCK CALL THE BOARD OF HEALTH AND MAKE THEM GET A FINE THIS LAW WENT INTO EFFECT 2 WEEKS AGO THANK GOD IT SAVES LIVES. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Just an FYI... you don' have go down the block to smoke, that hasn't been passed. so for your information people can smoke outside an establishment and if you don't like it stay the hell away, or stay inside this way you won't be breathing our second hand smoke. Let me ask a question of the politicians who signed this law into effect. You don't want people in bars, or private clubs to smoke, and will certainly fine someone who breaks this law, but let me tell you I was in a well known bar in Harrison, and there was more drugs in the place, and people were selling it and doing it right out in the open. But that's ok, RIGHT????? and this new law that passed not allowing 18 years olds to purchase cigarettes is bull too!!!!! our government won't let these kids buy cigarettes, but they want their votes, and want them to serve our country in this god awful war, that isn't there war. give me a break, maybe this kids shouldn't smoke, and buy cigarettes but then again they shouldn't go to war for this country either.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Just an FYI... you don' have go down the block to smoke, that hasn't been passed. so for your information people can smoke outside an establishment and if you don't like it stay the hell away, or stay inside this way you won't be breathing our second hand smoke. Let me ask a question of the politicians who signed this law into effect. You don't want people in bars, or private clubs to smoke, and will certainly fine someone who breaks this law, but let me tell you I was in a well known bar in Harrison, and there was more drugs in the place, and people were selling it and doing it right out in the open. But that's ok, RIGHT????? and this new law that passed not allowing 18 years olds to purchase cigarettes is bull too!!!!! our government won't let these kids buy cigarettes, but they want their votes, and want them to serve our country in this god awful war, that isn't there war. give me a break, maybe this kids shouldn't smoke, and buy cigarettes but then again they shouldn't go to war for this country either.... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What about the people that live next door to the bars ? now we have to hear them drunks till 2 a.m or smell the second hand smoke coming in my open window ?, and whos gonna clean all the butts people throw in front of my house ? How do u know they were selling drugs in there ? did u buy ? or did u get shut out and just complaining b/c u had to go somewhere else to buy your dope, stay out of Harrison pal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 This law is just another indication of the hypocrisy of government and the fact that it's for sale. If the government truly believes in the evil of smoking it shouldn't continue to allow tobacco sales from which it takes its cut and WHY are casinos exempt? WHY? Because the PAY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldfart56 Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Just an FYI... you don' have go down the block to smoke, that hasn't been passed. so for your information people can smoke outside an establishment and if you don't like it stay the hell away, or stay inside this way you won't be breathing our second hand smoke. Let me ask a question of the politicians who signed this law into effect. You don't want people in bars, or private clubs to smoke, and will certainly fine someone who breaks this law, but let me tell you I was in a well known bar in Harrison, and there was more drugs in the place, and people were selling it and doing it right out in the open. But that's ok, RIGHT????? and this new law that passed not allowing 18 years olds to purchase cigarettes is bull too!!!!! our government won't let these kids buy cigarettes, but they want their votes, and want them to serve our country in this god awful war, that isn't there war. give me a break, maybe this kids shouldn't smoke, and buy cigarettes but then again they shouldn't go to war for this country either.... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> hey we have a spot for you puffers! and it has resting spots for you too! in fact they put your names on rock hard place cards and you can puff away for the rest of time " IF YOU HAVE ANY! now we know your JUST "DYING "TO FIND IT!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest_RESIDENT_* Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT PEOPLE THAT DO NOT SMOKE DO NOT WANT TO SMELL LIKE ASHTRAYS.YOU MUST BE 25 FEET AWAY FROM THE DOOR READ THE STATE LAW THAT IS IF YOU CAN READ WHO CARES WHAT YOU OR ANYONE ELSE THINKS SECOND HAND KILLS YOU CAN KEEP PUFFING JUST 25FEET AWAY FROM THE DOOR.AS FAR AS THE BAR IN HARRISON WHYDID NOT CALL THE COPS IF YOU SEEN SOMETHING GOING ON IT IS PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT MAKE ME SICK YOU PUT UP WITH NOW SHUT THEN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2smart4u Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Just an FYI... you don' have go down the block to smoke, that hasn't been passed. so for your information people can smoke outside an establishment and if you don't like it stay the hell away, or stay inside this way you won't be breathing our second hand smoke. Let me ask a question of the politicians who signed this law into effect. You don't want people in bars, or private clubs to smoke, and will certainly fine someone who breaks this law, but let me tell you I was in a well known bar in Harrison, and there was more drugs in the place, and people were selling it and doing it right out in the open. But that's ok, RIGHT????? and this new law that passed not allowing 18 years olds to purchase cigarettes is bull too!!!!! our government won't let these kids buy cigarettes, but they want their votes, and want them to serve our country in this god awful war, that isn't there war. give me a break, maybe this kids shouldn't smoke, and buy cigarettes but then again they shouldn't go to war for this country either.... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's one of the dumbest posts I've ever read. Forget the web, stick to your schoolwork or you'll never get out of 9th grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 This law is just another indication of the hypocrisy of government and the fact that it's for sale.If the government truly believes in the evil of smoking it shouldn't continue to allow tobacco sales from which it takes its cut and WHY are casinos exempt? WHY? Because the PAY! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> By next year the casinos will be included in the law, You can not smoke in casino bars and restaurants, Only in the slot and table area, and they do have non smoking areas. The restaurant and the bowling alley lobby will never win a law suit against the state of NJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 CALL THE BOARD OF HEALTH THE FINE IS $250.00 FOR THE FIRST OFFENSE THE FINE INCREASES THEY HAVE TO BE AWAY FROM THE DOORWAY TO THEY HAVE GO HALF DAY DOWN THE BLOCK CALL THE BOARD OF HEALTH AND MAKE THEM GET A FINE THIS LAW WENT INTO EFFECT 2 WEEKS AGO THANK GOD IT SAVES LIVES. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Excuse me Dr.--what proof do you have that it saves lives???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 What about the people that live next door to the bars ? now we have to hear them drunks till 2 a.m or smell the second hand smoke coming in my open window ?, and whos gonna clean all the butts people throw in front of my house ? How do u know they were selling drugs in there ? did u buy ? or did u get shut out and just complaining b/c u had to go somewhere else to buy your dope, stay out of Harrison pal <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Close the window-nosey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 The note in the paper was incorrect, Smokeing is allowed in private clubs. Sorry Aljoe no extortion money from them. What rights will we lose next? As good as it seems for all cocerned Smoker and nonsmoker, this law is saying we do not have a right to choose. I know smoking is not good for me but I should decide , to smoke or not to smoke, that is the right of choice. Hey! God gave us free will why won't the Government? Think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Close the window-nosey <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i shouldn't have to close my window with the amount of taxes i pay in this town, i'll just start calling the cops everytime i see or hear people out there , then maybe the bar will get a ticket and i'll be able to sleep in peace without hearing your drunk ass or smelll your stinky cigaretts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 What about the people that live next door to the bars ? now we have to hear them drunks till 2 a.m or smell the second hand smoke coming in my open window ?, and whos gonna clean all the butts people throw in front of my house ? How do u know they were selling drugs in there ? did u buy ? or did u get shut out and just complaining b/c u had to go somewhere else to buy your dope, stay out of Harrison pal <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Was the bar there when you Moved In?? Then you have ZERO room to complain, you know what you were getting into...Much like someone who moves next to an airport then gets pissy about the noise...Caveat Emptor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 The Governor who passed the law was not even elected to office! You people must be crazy if you think that letting the Government make laws restricting your rights on your property is a good thing. It won't stop there either. Do you know that being overweight is a leading cause of death. Lets have overweight people stop eating unhealthy food. Let's make them pay more for their gluttony. Every year increase the tax on snack foods, soda, everything you enjoy and will lead to your death. Clothing companies have to use more fabric so their clothes should be more expensive too. Obese people are an eyesoar and they should not be allowed where average people are eating. Since we feel free to attack smokers lets open the flood gates, anyone with an unhealthy habit should be publicly ridiculed and we should not feel bad because they are hurting themselves and the people around them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 keep your drunken mouth shut because I will keep my window open. If you are too loud then you will see the cops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 Close the window-nosey <{POST_SNAPBACK}> While we're at it, lets not allow alcoholic beverages to be served @ sporting events. Can't smoke, but you can drink & drive. Go figure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 Excuse me Dr.--what proof do you have that it saves lives???? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What proof do you have that it doesn't? You're forcing your filth on me, the burden of proof lies with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 While we're at it, lets not allow alcoholic beverages to be served @ sporting events. Can't smoke, but you can drink & drive. Go figure! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Really! It's legal to drive drunk? That's news to me. Go figure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 The note in the paper was incorrect, Smokeing is allowed in private clubs. Sorry Aljoe no extortion money from them. What rights will we lose next? As good as it seems for all cocerned Smoker and nonsmoker, this law is saying we do not have a right to choose. I know smoking is not good for me but I should decide , to smoke or not to smoke, that is the right of choice. Hey! God gave us free will why won't the Government? Think about it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If the club holds a liquor license they cannot smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wake the hell up Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 Really! It's legal to drive drunk? That's news to me. Go figure! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Those who forget are dooomed to repete. Let's have goverment wipe our collective ass's. Does anyone remember proabition? Let's drive everthing under ground and make more problems for our friends in Trenton to solve for us. Where have all my freedoms gone long time passing? UP IN SMOKE. Think! They tax the ass off us and now they tell us where we can and can't smoke. Your being set up. Some day some one will ask what happened to my rights? And that's not fiction it will happen, count on it. SIMPLE BUT TRUE..............! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Those who forget are dooomed to repete. Let's have goverment wipe our collective ass's. Does anyone remember proabition? Let's drive everthing under ground and make more problems for our friends in Trenton to solve for us. Where have all my freedoms gone long time passing? UP IN SMOKE. Think! They tax the ass off us and now they tell us where we can and can't smoke. Your being set up. Some day some one will ask what happened to my rights? And that's not fiction it will happen, count on it. SIMPLE BUT TRUE..............! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I've already asked where are my rights? Where are my rights to be able to walk into a bar, eatery, or bowling alley and not have to inhale smoke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Concerned Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 I would like to know if the ban includes clubs like , The American Legion, VFW And org. like that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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