Autonomous

I read Godless. It was as bad as reading one of Michael Moore's books, just in the other direction. The only difference is that she kisses more peoples' rears. Her chapters against evolution could be debunked by the average 10th grader.

Now here's the problem. You are in effect saying that you don't need to listen to anyone who disagrees with you because they're automatically wrong. Yet you accuse other people of cult-like behaviour. Do you not see the irony?

...and if anyone would know, you would.

Okay-admit it-you're actually a liberal trying to make conservatives look bad, aren't you?

Which proves that they are even worse. Congratulations. Your guy S**ks, but at least their guys S**K too. What a system, eh?

So? It is the most important holiday in America because of capitalism, not religion. Otherwise Easter would be the more important-it used to be. My point is that the song has NO religious message. Perhaps if Silent Night or Away in a Manger were the best selling song he'd have a point.

Crap like this pisses me off-how about you sign up, then? How dare you blame the troops! The troops aren't the problem-the crappy leadership (not military leadership-the politicians) is. If we'd put more guys on the ground we could win this war, but they're too afraid of losing votes. Please note that both parties have done the same damn thing-this is not an anti-Republican rant.

As I have said, the war was not a good idea. As much as I don't like Clinton, he forced Milosevich out without loss of American life. I'm simply stating that now that we are over there, we can't just pull out. Stores used to have signs saying "You broke it, you bought it." We are somewhat responsible for the mess in Iraq, so we have a responsibility to help fix it. I'm not sure the doofus in charge now can do that (I rather suspect not) but withdrawing is not the answer. If that country falls to chaos (which, btw, Iran would probably not let happen) it will be worse for us in the long run than staying.

Prove it. A relatively recent developement. Though 60% of Americans can't name half of them. Source: http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2007...ion-cover_N.htm You can choose not to. So? It is a free country. They can do whatever they want. btw-the lyrics of White Christmas: I'm dreaming of a white Christmas Just like the ones I used to know Where the treetops glisten, and children listen To hear sleigh bells in the snow I'm dreaming of a white Christmas With every Christmas card I write May your days be merry and bright And may all your Christmases be white I'm dreaming of a white Christmas With every Christmas card I write May your days be merry and bright And may all your Christmases be white Yeah-that's a religious message.

Since there wasn't one given? Agreed-once Iraqis see their government (and us) as the lesser evil we can start getting somewhere. We desperately need their cooperation. Now if we can get them to stop killing each other we'd be set. The first two being very likely-especially the second, which I was trying to show with the Afghanistan comparison. I support bombing the crap out of Iran (not with nukes) in order to keep them from getting The Bomb. I actually think Bush has been far too lenient with them. I'm still not convinced that the invasion of Iraq was the only possible scenario though. Or the best, for that matter.

I don't-what does 'rediculous' mean?

What a shock-no response from the wingnuts.

"We're talking about your son here. If you don't like it go away." Seriously, what the hell?

You're right-except for the glaring hole. Evolution operates according to principles that you can observe, not blindly.

Conservatives still do. Neocons, on the other hand, are just as bad as any liberal with regards to the government telling people what to do. With their disregard for privacy, I might say even worse.

Translation: "Autonomous is 2smart4me once again, so I can think of no intelligent way to respond."

This isn't really the same. In Iraq there are a lot of foreign influences. Also, this is a country which sits on top of huge oil deposits, so it isn't like we're just going to let it fall into chaos. Also, while I don't think invading Iraq helped us in the war on terror, leaving it now would certainly harm our efforts. Right now, Iraq is a training ground for jihadists. If we let that continue, it will harm us in the long run. Now make no mistake-invading Iraq was a terrible idea, and we may very well end up with a worse situation than we started with because of it. But leaving now is not really an option.

You're trying to conflate philosophical naturalism and methodological naturalism. Your quote certainly shows that Ken Miller does not believe in philosophical naturalism. Unfortunately, the only person who thought he did was 2Dim. Congratulations I guess-you're smarter than 2Dim. Which is like saying you're warmer than an ice cube, but I digress. What you're implying (actually, flat-out saying) is that Ken Miller does not believe in methodological naturalism. This is not true. That would make him a proponent if ID rather than the opposite.

Oh, I get it-you meant me! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Listen doofus-aside from being an unbeliever (which is politically neutral-wingnuts like you haven't completely taken over the GOP), would you care to find a post by me indicating support for a 'leftist' position? Take your time-you'll need it. I don't make fun of you because you're on the right-I make fun of you because you're a sheep mindlessly following wherever the neocons lead you.

So he'll do it again-and when the next student complains, they'll have an incredibly easy time suing the crap out of the school system. There will be NO deniability-the world noticed already, so it isn't like the BOE can feign ignorance.

That doesn't even make sense.

Applying Occam's Razor is foolish? Whatever.

So you're saying Mr. P was outsmarted by the kid? Not a particularly astute guy, then.

Yeah, that makes sense. Shall we examine this statement? 1. Paul doesn't believe that Jesus is God. 2. Radical Islamic fundamentalists don't believe that Jesus is God. Therefore, Paul's beliefs are the same as radical fundamentalists. Other than not believing in Allah. Or the Prophet. Or any of the other sacred pillars of Islam. Or the Caliphate. Or...oh, I think the point is made.

The problem is, we can't just pull out of Iraq. Remember Afghanistan? After the Russian occupation ended, it was left with a weak central government and a LOT of foreign fighters. It then fractured into warring groups, with the Taliban eventually controlling most of the country. Now I know someone like Bryan is bound to critique that summary-I know it is a simplified version--let it go, no one cares. The point is, the same thing is likely to happen in Iraq if we simply pull out. Now I used to believe that a phased withdrawal was the way to go, with us returning in force if everything started to fall apart. I no longer believe this. Since I am not motivated primarily by ideological loyalty, I am willing to change my opinion to fit the facts rather than vice versa(you listening, 2Dim?). The problem is, this idea revolves around two theoretical positions: 1. Our presence in Iraq angers Muslims to the point of violence. This is true, but our presence also helps keep a lid on sectarian violence. I have come to think we do more good with the second than harm with the first. 2. The Iraqi government can keep the peace. I feel sorry for the Iraqi government. They were given a country that the occupation had thoroughly screwed up (whose brilliant idea was it to fire the military before disarming them?) and are now being told to hurry up and fix what we were utterly incapable of fixing. However, I believe the current government cannot keep the peace. So where does this leave the troops? Screwed, unless someone grows some testicles. The Democrats are looking like they'll pull out. The Republicans are starting to as well, but they'll make sure to blame the Iraqi government for not stepping up. If they do (and sadly, it seems to be what the American people want), we'll have a worse rogue state than we did before. The one bright spot seems to be the surge. It seems to be working-which shows that the original estimates rejected by the administration were right-we should have gone in with far more troops. The wisest course of action would be to send even more troops in to lock down the problem areas. Trouble is, we just don't have enough without shortening rotation times even more than we already have.