Guest Just Judy Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 At a news conference yesterday, Obama said he doesn't think Trump will be elected president. Singling out Trump only helps Trump. Anyone still on the fence about Trump is now supporting him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KPDRetired Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 At a news conference yesterday, Obama said he doesn't think Trump will be elected president. Singling out Trump only helps Trump. Anyone still on the fence about Trump is now supporting him. No, No we're not...Many of us are still Supporting Cruz....the only actual Guy in the race who both understands, and RESPECTS the Constitution. I don't trust Trump on a Number of Issues...Mostly because on things like Healthcare, Immigration, and Gun Rights, he's on record saying the EXACT OPPOSITE of his positions as a Candidate. That Said, if it's a Choice between Him and Hillary the Crook, or Sanders the Socialist, i'll reluctantly vote for Trump...but for many folks like myself who are Constitutionalists, It's Cruz for the Primaries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 No, No we're not...Many of us are still Supporting Cruz....the only actual Guy in the race who both understands, and RESPECTS the Constitution. I don't trust Trump on a Number of Issues...Mostly because on things like Healthcare, Immigration, and Gun Rights, he's on record saying the EXACT OPPOSITE of his positions as a Candidate. That Said, if it's a Choice between Him and Hillary the Crook, or Sanders the Socialist, i'll reluctantly vote for Trump...but for many folks like myself who are Constitutionalists, It's Cruz for the Primaries. You're living in a fantasy world. This isn't the 1700s anymore. The economy that existed when the Framers wrote the Constitution no longer exists. If they were alive today, they would surely acknowledge that. Cruz would be a disaster as president. (Not that I'm worried that he'll ever be president, because no one can stand him.) You criticize Bernie Sanders, but Sanders is the only candidate who is telling the truth about where we are. Consequently, he is the only candidate who has a vision for where we need to be. Let's have a real discussion about it. Aside from the label, name one thing Sanders has said about our economy that isn't true. I don't think you'll be able to do it. The government is bought and paid for by corporations, hedge fund managers and other billionaires. As a result, government doesn't work for the people. We need a political revolution, in which the people demand and get policies that serve the people, not just a privileged few. Bernie Sanders has been saying that his entire adult life. Of course the corporations and the corporate-owned media don't like it. That's exactly why we need to give Sanders a chance, and give him a Congress that will support him. When the hell are people like you going to wake up to what is really going on? The privileged few are stealing you, and all of us, blind, and you want to vote for a guy who would help them do it. Seriously, let's discuss it. If you look again, with your eyes open, you'll see a very different picture, as contrasted with the fantasy you've been talked into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 If YOU Want to live in a Socialist Society...nothing is stopping you. China, Cuba, North Korea, GO RIGHT AHEAD. As for the Constitution....what it does, is provide LIMITS to the power of the Government.. Again if YOU Want to Live where the Govt has ZERO Limits as to what it can do...The Above listed Nations are available. Renounce Your Citizenship, and Go. NOTHING Is stopping you. Me? I MUCH Prefer a system where the Govt is supposed to answer to the people....not the other way around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2smart4u Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 You're living in a fantasy world. This isn't the 1700s anymore. The economy that existed when the Framers wrote the Constitution no longer exists. If they were alive today, they would surely acknowledge that. Cruz would be a disaster as president. (Not that I'm worried that he'll ever be president, because no one can stand him.) You criticize Bernie Sanders, but Sanders is the only candidate who is telling the truth about where we are. Consequently, he is the only candidate who has a vision for where we need to be. Let's have a real discussion about it. Aside from the label, name one thing Sanders has said about our economy that isn't true. I don't think you'll be able to do it. The government is bought and paid for by corporations, hedge fund managers and other billionaires. As a result, government doesn't work for the people. We need a political revolution, in which the people demand and get policies that serve the people, not just a privileged few. Bernie Sanders has been saying that his entire adult life. Of course the corporations and the corporate-owned media don't like it. That's exactly why we need to give Sanders a chance, and give him a Congress that will support him. When the hell are people like you going to wake up to what is really going on? The privileged few are stealing you, and all of us, blind, and you want to vote for a guy who would help them do it. Seriously, let's discuss it. If you look again, with your eyes open, you'll see a very different picture, as contrasted with the fantasy you've been talked into. Seriously ? Sanders is a Socialist, period. Free college for everyone ? Really ? Margaret Thatcher said it best: "The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 If YOU Want to live in a Socialist Society...nothing is stopping you. China, Cuba, North Korea, GO RIGHT AHEAD. As for the Constitution....what it does, is provide LIMITS to the power of the Government.. Again if YOU Want to Live where the Govt has ZERO Limits as to what it can do...The Above listed Nations are available. Renounce Your Citizenship, and Go. NOTHING Is stopping you. Me? I MUCH Prefer a system where the Govt is supposed to answer to the people....not the other way around. You're an idiot. NOBODY here is talking about a system like they have in China, Cuba or North Korea. Cruz and tRump favor fascism - corporate control of everything. That is what the Republican party has been giving us. If you think that's freedom, then you're not very bright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Trump fan Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 You're an idiot. NOBODY here is talking about a system like they have in China, Cuba or North Korea. Cruz and tRump favor fascism - corporate control of everything. That is what the Republican party has been giving us. If you think that's freedom, then you're not very bright. Kool-Aid alert !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KPDRetired Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 You're an idiot. NOBODY here is talking about a system like they have in China, Cuba or North Korea. Cruz and tRump favor fascism - corporate control of everything. That is what the Republican party has been giving us. If you think that's freedom, then you're not very bright. The only Idiot is the guy (Or Girl) talking about the Constitution being "Unnecessary" who has obviously never bothered to read it. The Constitution consists of 3 parts. The Preamble, the Text of the Constitution, and the Amendments/BoR. The Preamble states the Purpose and the reasons the Constitution was adopted. The Text Lays out the building blocks for how the Federal Government is constructed, and maintained, and the Amendments/BoR provides specific Controls and LIMITS on the Power of the Federal Government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shane Murphy Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Seriously ? Sanders is a Socialist, period. Free college for everyone ? Really ? Margaret Thatcher said it best: "The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money". You say free college for everyone? Its not FREE, he is moving money away form areas that DONT need it and paying for an education for OUR future of this country. Our military spending is double the next two countries below us. We cut that ion half and have more then enough for schools, roads, infrastructure, etc....And as for living in a socialist country....dont you have a social security card? Isnt that socialists? Everyone is scared of the word and doesnt even know what it means. #Feelthebern!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2smart4u Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 You say free college for everyone? Its not FREE, he is moving money away form areas that DONT need it and paying for an education for OUR future of this country. Our military spending is double the next two countries below us. We cut that ion half and have more then enough for schools, roads, infrastructure, etc....And as for living in a socialist country....dont you have a social security card? Isnt that socialists? Everyone is scared of the word and doesnt even know what it means. #Feelthebern!!! It would be interesting to see how many votes Bernie would get, then we'd know how many brainless morons exist in the U.S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 You say free college for everyone? Its not FREE, he is moving money away form areas that DONT need it and paying for an education for OUR future of this country. Our military spending is double the next two countries below us. We cut that ion half and have more then enough for schools, roads, infrastructure, etc....And as for living in a socialist country....dont you have a social security card? Isnt that socialists? Everyone is scared of the word and doesnt even know what it means. #Feelthebern!!! So says the guy who's record would prohibit him from serving in the Military to begin with.... "Social Security" is an INSURANCE Program..nothing more....which you might know if you had bothered to look beyond the commonly used name. You probably shouldnt castigate anyone else about not knowing what they are talking about when You Don't. Oh By the Way, Pro-Tip Hashtagging makes you look like a Moron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 You say free college for everyone? Its not FREE, he is moving money away form areas that DONT need it and paying for an education for OUR future of this country. Our military spending is double the next two countries below us. We cut that ion half and have more then enough for schools, roads, infrastructure, etc....And as for living in a socialist country....dont you have a social security card? Isnt that socialists? Everyone is scared of the word and doesnt even know what it means. #Feelthebern!!! Good points, Shane. They don't understand that there are socialist elements in the political economies of every developed country in the world. Socialism isn't just one thing, and it's not a single point. Socialism-capitalism are best measured in degrees, and there are several things to consider. The kind of socialism that is being discussed seriously in the United States includes things like necessary regulation, research and development for new technologies, funding to repair and upgrade our infrastructure, health care for everyone, and some others. It's not the old idea of "government ownership of the means of production." That is the Soviet-style definition. No one of any political significance in the United States proposes that. Of course, that won't stop Republicans from lying about what is being proposed. And yes, I know that the right wing trolls here won't care about any of that. But maybe a few intelligent people will read this, and join us in a real discussion. So let's keep discussing this, and show them what a real political discussion looks like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 It would be interesting to see how many votes Bernie would get, then we'd know how many brainless morons exist in the U.S.We already know how many brainless morons exist on this board - just you...and your multiple screen names Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2smart4u Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 Good points, Shane. They don't understand that there are socialist elements in the political economies of every developed country in the world. Socialism isn't just one thing, and it's not a single point. Socialism-capitalism are best measured in degrees, and there are several things to consider. The kind of socialism that is being discussed seriously in the United States includes things like necessary regulation, research and development for new technologies, funding to repair and upgrade our infrastructure, health care for everyone, and some others. It's not the old idea of "government ownership of the means of production." That is the Soviet-style definition. No one of any political significance in the United States proposes that. Of course, that won't stop Republicans from lying about what is being proposed. And yes, I know that the right wing trolls here won't care about any of that. But maybe a few intelligent people will read this, and join us in a real discussion. So let's keep discussing this, and show them what a real political discussion looks like. Gobbledygook. You have no idea what you're talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Just Judy Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 Good points, Shane. They don't understand that there are socialist elements in the political economies of every developed country in the world. Socialism isn't just one thing, and it's not a single point. Socialism-capitalism are best measured in degrees, and there are several things to consider. The kind of socialism that is being discussed seriously in the United States includes things like necessary regulation, research and development for new technologies, funding to repair and upgrade our infrastructure, health care for everyone, and some others. It's not the old idea of "government ownership of the means of production." That is the Soviet-style definition. No one of any political significance in the United States proposes that. Of course, that won't stop Republicans from lying about what is being proposed. And yes, I know that the right wing trolls here won't care about any of that. But maybe a few intelligent people will read this, and join us in a real discussion. So let's keep discussing this, and show them what a real political discussion looks like. Answering your own post, how clever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 So 2Stupid4Words posts one thing at 10:24, then something else at 10:31 under a different name. Seven minutes to type six words. Says it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 Gobbledygook. You have no idea what you're talking about. No, I understand exactly what I'm "talking about." Every developed nation on Earth has a mixed economy with both capitalist and socialist features. There are several kinds of features to consider: who owns the means of production, to what degree are privately owned companies regulated, what services and/or goods does the government provide, how active is the government in promoting research and development, or in promoting business and commerce directly, to name a few. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean that people with functioning brains don't understand it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2smart4u Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 No, I understand exactly what I'm "talking about." Every developed nation on Earth has a mixed economy with both capitalist and socialist features. There are several kinds of features to consider: who owns the means of production, to what degree are privately owned companies regulated, what services and/or goods does the government provide, how active is the government in promoting research and development, or in promoting business and commerce directly, to name a few. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean that people with functioning brains don't understand it. Here's what you're talking about: Obama is a committed socialist. In 7.5 years as president, our debt is 19 trillion and rising, our roads and bridges are crumbling, middle class salaries are falling, open borders have caused an epidemic of heroin deaths, our military is smaller now than before WW2, more families are dependent on food stamps than anytime in history, unemployed americans are at an all time high. How can you claim to have a functioning brain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Here's what you're talking about: Obama is a committed socialist. In 7.5 years as president, our debt is 19 trillion and rising, our roads and bridges are crumbling, middle class salaries are falling, open borders have caused an epidemic of heroin deaths, our military is smaller now than before WW2, more families are dependent on food stamps than anytime in history, unemployed americans are at an all time high. How can you claim to have a functioning brain? Stupid, We knew forty years ago that our dependence on oil was a threat to our economy and our national security. The federal government could have started a massive research and development program for solar, wind, tides and geothermal energy. But we didn't, because the oil companies wouldn't allow it. The Republicans blocked it to help out their friends in the oil and gas industry. We've bled trillions of dollars from this alone. Our infrastructure is crumbling. President Obama called for a jobs program to rebuild it. Not only would it have been an investment in our infrastructure, it would have restored our economy to full employment five years ago. Republicans blocked it pandering to idiots like you who think "no new taxes" is one of the ten commandments. We need a stronger national health care system. The Affordable Care Act is a start but only a start. Again, Republicans blocked reform. As a result, we spend twice the percentage of our GDP on health care, as compared with any other country. Over the years, that's more trillions of dollars down the drain. We had a balanced budget in the 1990s, as a result of President Clinton getting laws passed that were fiscally responsible. For doing the right thing, the American people punished him by handing the Congress to the Republicans. When they got their own president in office (Bush), they repealed much of Clinton's legislation, and our budget fell out of balance again. Then Bush started two wars, neither of which was paid for. Then he crashed the economy, a disaster from which we are still recovering. More trillions of dollars flushed down the drain because Republicans are only interested in serving their wealthy contributors. When you put aside all the juvenile nonsense, those are the facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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