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He's out now, but LOL at your assertion about George W. If there was one president without a spine, it was definitely W.

And never forget, OBAMA GOT BIN LADEN :D.

Really ?? I was under the impression that Navy Seals killed bin Laden after the CIA found him. The Coward in Chief never left the security of the White House while the Seals were risking their lives to carry out the mission. But I can understand your wanting to credit the mutt for what the Seals did considering zerO's "worst

president in history status".

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1356317800[/url]"] Really ?? I was under the impression that Navy Seals killed bin Laden after the CIA found him. The Coward in Chief never left the security of the White House while the Seals were risking their lives to carry out the mission. But I can understand your wanting to credit the mutt for what the Seals did considering zerO's "worst president in history status".[/

Merry Christmas to you 2smart! Hope you enjoy your sour grapes, crow and cup of bitterness. What a sad, sad person you must be. I doubt if your family even visits.

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Really ?? I was under the impression that Navy Seals killed bin Laden after the CIA found him. The Coward in Chief never left the security of the White House while the Seals were risking their lives to carry out the mission. But I can understand your wanting to credit the mutt for what the Seals did considering zerO's "worst president in history status".

Oh & I suppose Bush woulda been there on the mission instead of at the White House. You sound pathetically ignorant!

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Really ?? I was under the impression that Navy Seals killed bin Laden after the CIA found him. The Coward in Chief never left the security of the White House while the Seals were risking their lives to carry out the mission. But I can understand your wanting to credit the mutt for what the Seals did considering zerO's "worst

president in history status".

You just won't quit, will you. The American people just re-elected President Obama. You should have some respect for the people, and by extension for the President we elected, twice now.

No president leaves the White House to go into the field. Name one who did. The reason they don't is that the President is the Commander in Chief. The military and the entire national security apparatus protect him. The President gives the orders and the soldiers carry them out. That's how it works, you pathetic moron.

You want an example of cowardice? W didn't even go into the field when he was of draft age and there was a war on. He evaded real service by using his connections to hide in the National Guard, while he supported other guys his age fighting the war. Cheney's evasion of military service was similar. That's cowardice, you jackass.

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Really ?? I was under the impression that Navy Seals killed bin Laden after the CIA found him. The Coward in Chief never left the security of the White House while the Seals were risking their lives to carry out the mission. But I can understand your wanting to credit the mutt for what the Seals did considering zerO's "worst

president in history status".

Do you really think you're convincing anyone of anything, except what a consummately nasty and ignorant person you are?

After all, it must be rough being you, having all the answers to our country's problems, only you're the only one who sees it, so no one listens to you. Sort of like having the cure for cancer, only no one pays attention. Hmm.

Don't worry, history will judge those who didn't listen to you. Meanwhile, you could write a book. You could call it "My Struggle."

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Oh & I suppose Bush woulda been there on the mission instead of at the White House. You sound pathetically ignorant!

No, Bush would not have been on the mission. Bush would have been in the white house. But you wouldn't have heard Bush taking credit away from the Seals

like the spineless mutt has done.

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No, Bush would not have been on the mission. Bush would have been in the white house. But you wouldn't have heard Bush taking credit away from the Seals

like the spineless mutt has done.

I must have missed that. Perhaps you could provide a link to the footage when he supposedly did that.

But of course you can't, since he didn't do it. So when you don't provide a link to what President Obama actually said, we'll all know it's because he didn't say what you claim he said.

This "topic" isn't about President Obama. It's about you and your ill temper, your ignorance and your disrespect for everyone who doesn't agree with your radical views.

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I must have missed that. Perhaps you could provide a link to the footage when he supposedly did that.

But of course you can't, since he didn't do it. So when you don't provide a link to what President Obama actually said, we'll all know it's because he didn't say what you claim he said.

This "topic" isn't about President Obama. It's about you and your ill temper, your ignorance and your disrespect for everyone who doesn't agree with your radical views.

Self reliance, self responsibility, living within your means and not borrowing 43 cents of every dollar spent in America. Yeah, I have some radical views.

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You don't have any intellectual honesty. You made a scurrilous charge against the President, and just changed the subject when you were called on it. You're also a hypocrite because you refuse to recognize that Bush laid the groundwork for these problems. You are guilty, as charged.

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Self reliance, self responsibility, living within your means and not borrowing 43 cents of every dollar spent in America. Yeah, I have some radical views.

Then why do you support Bush over Clinton? Clinton balanced the budget and put us on a sustainable path. Bush undid all the gains we made under Clinton to give tax breaks to millionaires who didn't need them, and set up the problems we face now.

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You don't have any intellectual honesty. You made a scurrilous charge against the President, and just changed the subject when you were called on it. You're also a hypocrite because you refuse to recognize that Bush laid the groundwork for these problems. You are guilty, as charged.

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Such hypocricy. You loonies keep refusing to acknowledge the mutt's failures and continue to blame Bush. Talk to me about intellectual honesty.

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Self reliance, self responsibility, living within your means and not borrowing 43 cents of every dollar spent in America. Yeah, I have some radical views.

If you're really for self-reliance and self-responsibility, then why do you support having the entire country act to protect the wealth of a few? If you want complete self-reliance, then put Donald Trump in a war zone with his fortune and his coiffed hair and let's see how long he lasts. These guys have fortunes because we've written the laws to protect them. That's OK up to the point where it becomes abusive to the people as a whole. We passed that point long ago. But you right wing radicals are so blinded by your ideology that you don't see it. You think the biggest crooks are the best and brightest. You don't see the absurdities in the system. But eventually, as the elite few continue to abuse their power, more and more people see it. That's what is beginning to happen now.

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He's not a Marine any more, which means he is a civilian. He broke Mexican law and was jailed for far too long, then released.

I hate it when people are put into jail or prison without due process. Sure am glad the USA never does that.

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Such hypocricy. You loonies keep refusing to acknowledge the mutt's failures and continue to blame Bush. Talk to me about intellectual honesty.

I will talk to you about intellectual honesty. I have it and you don't. Bush nearly destroyed our economy. That is a fact. He undid the gains we made under Clinton. Then he blundered us into two unfunded wars, gave huge tax breaks to the rich, deregulated the economy, and created the conditions that led to the worst economic crisis since the 1930s. That's not sloganeering. Those are all facts. You won't admit it. Instead, you blame the President Obama, who inherited a nightmare. Everyone who was being honest knew that digging out of that mess would take many years, perhaps decades. We ignored long-term needs like energy and infrastructure for decades, and then we ran up a massive debt under Bush for no reason. That's not spin either, those are all facts. Yes, President Obama has presided over an increase in our national debt. But he had no choice, except to allow the economy to collapse. You keep babbling about Greece but the fact is that Greece is in trouble because it is trying to right itself with austerity - the same thing Republicans want us to do here. If you had any intellectual honesty, you would check these facts before forming your opinions. But you don't. All you know is that you hate Democrats, and so you will support any Republican who comes along. But you refuse to deal in facts, or to change your opinion or even reconsider it in the face of new information (new to you, apparently). You won't even acknowledge most of the facts, and that makes you intellectually dishonest.

By contrast, I acknowledged the facts. We have more debt now than we did four years ago. But why? It's not for the reasons you claim. Those problems go straight back to Mr. Bush, and to many others on both sides of the political aisle - but mainly Republicans - who insisted that we ignore our problems instead of turning in any way to government. I also acknowledge that government is often inefficient and corrupt; but so are the markets. Two other truths you right wingers won't admit is that the global economy has completely changed the world; and that the rise of the giant international corporation is as great a threat to freedom as any government could ever be because power and money corrupt. Meanwhile, you claim to believe in the Christian religion, but you ignore the fact that the Bible contains exactly those lessons about money and power (not the global economy because it didn't exist yet). In fact, Jesus is reported to have focused extensively on the corrupting influences of money and power. But you ignore that whenever you think it convenient, and that also makes you intellectually dishonest: you're not consistent. Radical ideologues made government out to be the enemy, and this is the result. That may not win any applause at a Republican primary debate but those are all facts too.

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I will talk to you about intellectual honesty. I have it and you don't. Bush nearly destroyed our economy. That is a fact. He undid the gains we made under Clinton. Then he blundered us into two unfunded wars, gave huge tax breaks to the rich, deregulated the economy, and created the conditions that led to the worst economic crisis since the 1930s. That's not sloganeering. Those are all facts. You won't admit it. Instead, you blame the President Obama, who inherited a nightmare. Everyone who was being honest knew that digging out of that mess would take many years, perhaps decades. We ignored long-term needs like energy and infrastructure for decades, and then we ran up a massive debt under Bush for no reason. That's not spin either, those are all facts. Yes, President Obama has presided over an increase in our national debt. But he had no choice, except to allow the economy to collapse. You keep babbling about Greece but the fact is that Greece is in trouble because it is trying to right itself with austerity - the same thing Republicans want us to do here. If you had any intellectual honesty, you would check these facts before forming your opinions. But you don't. All you know is that you hate Democrats, and so you will support any Republican who comes along. But you refuse to deal in facts, or to change your opinion or even reconsider it in the face of new information (new to you, apparently). You won't even acknowledge most of the facts, and that makes you intellectually dishonest.

By contrast, I acknowledged the facts. We have more debt now than we did four years ago. But why? It's not for the reasons you claim. Those problems go straight back to Mr. Bush, and to many others on both sides of the political aisle - but mainly Republicans - who insisted that we ignore our problems instead of turning in any way to government. I also acknowledge that government is often inefficient and corrupt; but so are the markets. Two other truths you right wingers won't admit is that the global economy has completely changed the world; and that the rise of the giant international corporation is as great a threat to freedom as any government could ever be because power and money corrupt. Meanwhile, you claim to believe in the Christian religion, but you ignore the fact that the Bible contains exactly those lessons about money and power (not the global economy because it didn't exist yet). In fact, Jesus is reported to have focused extensively on the corrupting influences of money and power. But you ignore that whenever you think it convenient, and that also makes you intellectually dishonest: you're not consistent. Radical ideologues made government out to be the enemy, and this is the result. That may not win any applause at a Republican primary debate but those are all facts too.

I will talk to you about intellectual honesty. I have it and you don't. Bush nearly destroyed our economy. That is a fact. He undid the gains we made under Clinton. Then he blundered us into two unfunded wars, gave huge tax breaks to the rich, deregulated the economy, and created the conditions that led to the worst economic crisis since the 1930s. That's not sloganeering. Those are all facts. You won't admit it. Instead, you blame the President Obama, who inherited a nightmare. Everyone who was being honest knew that digging out of that mess would take many years, perhaps decades. We ignored long-term needs like energy and infrastructure for decades, and then we ran up a massive debt under Bush for no reason. That's not spin either, those are all facts. Yes, President Obama has presided over an increase in our national debt. But he had no choice, except to allow the economy to collapse. You keep babbling about Greece but the fact is that Greece is in trouble because it is trying to right itself with austerity - the same thing Republicans want us to do here. If you had any intellectual honesty, you would check these facts before forming your opinions. But you don't. All you know is that you hate Democrats, and so you will support any Republican who comes along. But you refuse to deal in facts, or to change your opinion or even reconsider it in the face of new information (new to you, apparently). You won't even acknowledge most of the facts, and that makes you intellectually dishonest.

By contrast, I acknowledged the facts. We have more debt now than we did four years ago. But why? It's not for the reasons you claim. Those problems go straight back to Mr. Bush, and to many others on both sides of the political aisle - but mainly Republicans - who insisted that we ignore our problems instead of turning in any way to government. I also acknowledge that government is often inefficient and corrupt; but so are the markets. Two other truths you right wingers won't admit is that the global economy has completely changed the world; and that the rise of the giant international corporation is as great a threat to freedom as any government could ever be because power and money corrupt. Meanwhile, you claim to believe in the Christian religion, but you ignore the fact that the Bible contains exactly those lessons about money and power (not the global economy because it didn't exist yet). In fact, Jesus is reported to have focused extensively on the corrupting influences of money and power. But you ignore that whenever you think it convenient, and that also makes you intellectually dishonest: you're not consistent. Radical ideologues made government out to be the enemy, and this is the result. That may not win any applause at a Republican primary debate but those are all facts too.

The mutt has borrowed and spent more money in the last 4 years than all the presidents in history combined. 47% of the population get some form of

government assistance and that number is climbing. This socialist mutt has an agenda to create a nanny state like Greece and you loonies can't see

beyond the MSNBC talking points.

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The mutt has borrowed and spent more money in the last 4 years than all the presidents in history combined. 47% of the population get some form of

government assistance and that number is climbing. This socialist mutt has an agenda to create a nanny state like Greece and you loonies can't see

beyond the MSNBC talking points.

You are an idiot with no regard for the truth, or any sense of proportion or of how things relate to each other. You're the last person who has any business criticizing someone else for spewing talking points. You're intellectually dishonest, and you just proved it again. And patriots don't call the President a mutt.

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