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There's a movement among some Dems to name the Ice Queen Hilliary as the Dem. candidate for president, dumping zerO. It makes sense, Hilliary is popular, more popular than zerO and doesn't carry all zerO's baggage of failures and broken promises. Of course I prefer they keep zerO, so I can watch zerO eaten and spit out by Gingrich in the debates.

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There's a movement among some Dems to name the Ice Queen Hilliary as the Dem. candidate for president, dumping zerO. It makes sense, Hilliary is popular, more popular than zerO and doesn't carry all zerO's baggage of failures and broken promises. Of course I prefer they keep zerO, so I can watch zerO eaten and spit out by Gingrich in the debates.

OK, I picked myself up the floor after laughing at this. Bring it on. Maybe President Giuliani can moderate.

What do you do, bring out your other screen name for the holidays?

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There's a movement among some Dems to name the Ice Queen Hilliary as the Dem. candidate for president, dumping zerO. It makes sense, Hilliary is popular, more popular than zerO and doesn't carry all zerO's baggage of failures and broken promises. Of course I prefer they keep zerO, so I can watch zerO eaten and spit out by Gingrich in the debates.

Hey 2smart, and I agree with you and hope Newt Gingrinch is the Republican nominee. Why? Let me count the ways:

The same Newt Gingrich who took $1.8 million from Freddie Mac to lobby on their behalf so they could continue to finance billions in risky mortgage loans which then set off the worst recession since the Great Depression. (It's preposterous for him to say that he took their money to give them "history" lessons.)

The same Newt Gingrich that did an advertisement with Nancy Pelosi on climate change.

The same Newt Gincrich who supported individual mandates on health care in the 1990s and in a television interview earlier this year.

The same Newt Gingrich who support the bank bailout of TARP.

The same Newt Gingrich who voted to impeach President Clinton while involved in an adulterous relationship and while his then wife was fighting cancer.

As an Obama supporter, I very much want Gingrich to be the nominee.

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There's a movement among some Dems to name the Ice Queen Hilliary as the Dem. candidate for president, dumping zerO. It makes sense, Hilliary is popular, more popular than zerO and doesn't carry all zerO's baggage of failures and broken promises. Of course I prefer they keep zerO, so I can watch zerO eaten and spit out by Gingrich in the debates.

You are too funny! You actually think the serial cheater and amnesty for illegal immigrants proponent is going to win the best of the seven dwarves contest? Fox nailed it this AM calling him a "disgusting fat pig" but hey it's all you got.

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You are too funny! You actually think the serial cheater and amnesty for illegal immigrants proponent is going to win the best of the seven dwarves contest? Fox nailed it this AM calling him a "disgusting fat pig" but hey it's all you got.

Hey 2Smart, you got to do your homework before posting here. I guess you realized how undefendable Gingrich's record is, so you now say you're against him. Pretty sad if you ask me. Anyhows, do praytell, which Republican candidate are you supporting and why? I would love to engage you in a discussion.

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Hey 2Smart, you got to do your homework before posting here. I guess you realized how undefendable Gingrich's record is, so you now say you're against him. Pretty sad if you ask me. Anyhows, do praytell, which Republican candidate are you supporting and why? I would love to engage you in a discussion.

Clear thinking americans understand the priority is saving america by dumping the socialist zerO. Overlooking a candidates baggage from the distant past to save america is an easy choice. I have to laugh at the hypocrisy of the loony left. Clinton sodomizes an intern in the white house and lies about it under oath to congress and the loonys adore him. Whatever baggage Gingrich has pales in comparison to Clinton's history of raping women as a governor and president. But of course I understand that with the hypocrisy comes selective memory.

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Clear thinking americans understand the priority is saving america by dumping the socialist zerO. Overlooking a candidates baggage from the distant past to save america is an easy choice. I have to laugh at the hypocrisy of the loony left. Clinton sodomizes an intern in the white house and lies about it under oath to congress and the loonys adore him. Whatever baggage Gingrich has pales in comparison to Clinton's history of raping women as a governor and president. But of course I understand that with the hypocrisy comes selective memory.

I'm more interested in who will do the better job for our country. We tried Bush's way and it nearly ruined the country. The Republicans want to do it all over again. They're even more radical than they were under Bush. We'd have to be crazy to go back to them, no matter who is sodomizing whom. And Clinton isn't running. Obama doesn't have a hint of personal scandal anywhere. So if that's the test, you lose.

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Clear thinking americans understand the priority is saving america by dumping the socialist zerO. Overlooking a candidates baggage from the distant past to save america is an easy choice. I have to laugh at the hypocrisy of the loony left. Clinton sodomizes an intern in the white house and lies about it under oath to congress and the loonys adore him. Whatever baggage Gingrich has pales in comparison to Clinton's history of raping women as a governor and president. But of course I understand that with the hypocrisy comes selective memory.

Hahaha. Your predictions are like the groundhogs. Meaningless, unscientific and you run back to your parents basement if you see your shadow.

PS Michelle Bachmann says Bush was a socialist and look how the cons defend him.

I think Cain is your best bet. Lol

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Clear thinking americans understand the priority is saving america by dumping the socialist zerO. Overlooking a candidates baggage from the distant past to save america is an easy choice. I have to laugh at the hypocrisy of the loony left. Clinton sodomizes an intern in the white house and lies about it under oath to congress and the loonys adore him. Whatever baggage Gingrich has pales in comparison to Clinton's history of raping women as a governor and president. But of course I understand that with the hypocrisy comes selective memory.

What a cop out. You don't answer the question. Tell us, Patriot, which of the Republican eight candidates are you supporting? Let's fill in the blank and begin the comparisons with Obama instead of the name calling that you insist on doing.

Why attack Bill Clinton when the discussion is President Obama versus one of the Republican eight candidates?

Oh wait, that's a classic Patriot tactic on this board -- he attacks when he can't defend.

Patriot, how do you explain the following?:

Newt Gingrich receiving $1.8 million from Freddie Mac to lobby on their behalf so they could continue to finance billions in risky mortgage loans which then set off the worst recession since the Great Depression. (It's preposterous for Gingrich to say that he took their money to give them "history" lessons.)

Newt Gingrich doing an advertisement with Nancy Pelosi on climate change.

Newt Gincrich supporting individual mandates on health care in the 1990s and in a television interview earlier this year.

Newt Gingrich supporting the bank bailout of TARP.

The same Newt Gingrich who voted to impeach President Clinton while involved in an adulterous relationship and while his then wife was fighting cancer.

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I'm more interested in who will do the better job for our country. We tried Bush's way and it nearly ruined the country. The Republicans want to do it all over again. They're even more radical than they were under Bush. We'd have to be crazy to go back to them, no matter who is sodomizing whom. And Clinton isn't running. Obama doesn't have a hint of personal scandal anywhere. So if that's the test, you lose.

No hint of personal scandal? So you're not counting his criminal cocaine and pot use? There's that selective hypocrisy again. Must be a loony left thing.

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What a cop out. You don't answer the question. Tell us, Patriot, which of the Republican eight candidates are you supporting? Let's fill in the blank and begin the comparisons with Obama instead of the name calling that you insist on doing.

Why attack Bill Clinton when the discussion is President Obama versus one of the Republican eight candidates?

Oh wait, that's a classic Patriot tactic on this board -- he attacks when he can't defend.

Patriot, how do you explain the following?:

Newt Gingrich receiving $1.8 million from Freddie Mac to lobby on their behalf so they could continue to finance billions in risky mortgage loans which then set off the worst recession since the Great Depression. (It's preposterous for Gingrich to say that he took their money to give them "history" lessons.)

Gingrich doing an advertisement with Nancy Pelosi on climate change.

Newt Gincrich supporting individual mandates on health care in the 1990s and in a television interview earlier this year.

Newt Gingrich supporting the bank bailout of TARP.

The same Newt Gingrich who voted to impeach President Clinton while involved in an adulterous relationship and while his then wife was fighting cancer.

If you can come up with something other than MINUTIA then I'll respond.

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No hint of personal scandal? So you're not counting his criminal cocaine and pot use? There's that selective hypocrisy again. Must be a loony left thing.

Well, we wouldn't want to be selectively hypocritical, now, would we! :lol:

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If you can come up with something other than MINUTIA then I'll respond.

1. He did.

2. You did respond. :rolleyes:

3. You just didn't respond with anything of intelligence or content. And you won't.

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If you can come up with something other than MINUTIA then I'll respond.

Dude, you are in serious denial. Polls show Obama ten points ahead of Gingrich. That's amazing considering Obama's overall negatives.

And, dude, you are wallowing in hypocrisy. From someone who thinks Solyndra is a scandal, it's stunning that you think Gingrich getting 1.8 million from Freddie Mac or Gingrich supporting an indivdual health care mandate (the crux of Obama's health care reform and the bane of conservatives)is just MINUTIA.

If ever there was a Hindenburg candidate in modern politics, I think Gingrich will be the one. Patriot, are you hopping on board?

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Dude, you are in serious denial. Polls show Obama ten points ahead of Gingrich. That's amazing considering Obama's overall negatives.

And, dude, you are wallowing in hypocrisy. From someone who thinks Solyndra is a scandal, it's stunning that you think Gingrich getting 1.8 million from Freddie Mac or Gingrich supporting an indivdual health care mandate (the crux of Obama's health care reform and the bane of conservatives)is just MINUTIA.

If ever there was a Hindenburg candidate in modern politics, I think Gingrich will be the one. Patriot, are you hopping on board?

Dude, the latest poll out today has zerO losing to any generic republican by 12 points. That is some seriously bad news for zerO, good news for America.

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Dude, the latest poll out today has zerO losing to any generic republican by 12 points. That is some seriously bad news for zerO, good news for America.

you are hilarious in a pathetic kind of way. Any generic republican beats Obama? That's fine if you can find a generic one, because as soon as you name a gop candidate, Obama wins by 10 points. Google fox news polls. Thanks for the gop gallows humor.

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Dude, the latest poll out today has zerO losing to any generic republican by 12 points. That is some seriously bad news for zerO, good news for America.

Patriot, Your state of denial is stunning. Even your own FOX news has Obama beating Gingrich! Below are all the recent polls of an Obama versus Gingrich race. It's ugly for the Republicans right now. They're strongest candidate is Romney but the conservative and evangelical base can't stomach him. That leaves Gingrich as the only alternative left. That's real good news for Obama.

General Election: Gingrich vs. Obama

Polling Data

Poll Date Sample Obama (D) Gingrich ® Spread

RCP Average 11/8 - 12/7 -- 49.0 42.1 Obama +6.9

Rasmussen Reports

12/6 - 12/7 1000 LV 45 40 Obama +5

FOX News

12/5 - 12/7 911 RV 46 40 Obama +6

Quinnipiac

11/14 - 11/20 2552 RV 49 40 Obama +9

CNN/Opinion Research

11/11 - 11/13 925 RV 53 45 Obama +8

Pew Research

11/9 - 11/14 1576 RV 54 42 Obama +12

PPP (D)

11/10 - 11/13 800 RV 49 43 Obama +6

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Patriot, Your state of denial is stunning. Even your own FOX news has Obama beating Gingrich! Below are all the recent polls of an Obama versus Gingrich race. It's ugly for the Republicans right now. They're strongest candidate is Romney but the conservative and evangelical base can't stomach him. That leaves Gingrich as the only alternative left. That's real good news for Obama.

General Election: Gingrich vs. Obama

Polling Data

Poll Date Sample Obama (D) Gingrich ® Spread

RCP Average 11/8 - 12/7 -- 49.0 42.1 Obama +6.9

Rasmussen Reports

12/6 - 12/7 1000 LV 45 40 Obama +5

FOX News

12/5 - 12/7 911 RV 46 40 Obama +6

Quinnipiac

11/14 - 11/20 2552 RV 49 40 Obama +9

CNN/Opinion Research

11/11 - 11/13 925 RV 53 45 Obama +8

Pew Research

11/9 - 11/14 1576 RV 54 42 Obama +12

PPP (D)

11/10 - 11/13 800 RV 49 43 Obama +6

Latest FOX News poll out today; 51% of voters disapprove of zerO's job performance and the same poll has zerO losing to any generic republican. I can't speak for the polls on your planet.

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Patriot, Your state of denial is stunning. Even your own FOX news has Obama beating Gingrich! Below are all the recent polls of an Obama versus Gingrich race. It's ugly for the Republicans right now. They're strongest candidate is Romney but the conservative and evangelical base can't stomach him. That leaves Gingrich as the only alternative left. That's real good news for Obama.

General Election: Gingrich vs. Obama

Polling Data

Poll Date Sample Obama (D) Gingrich ® Spread

RCP Average 11/8 - 12/7 -- 49.0 42.1 Obama +6.9

Rasmussen Reports

12/6 - 12/7 1000 LV 45 40 Obama +5

FOX News

12/5 - 12/7 911 RV 46 40 Obama +6

Quinnipiac

11/14 - 11/20 2552 RV 49 40 Obama +9

CNN/Opinion Research

11/11 - 11/13 925 RV 53 45 Obama +8

Pew Research

11/9 - 11/14 1576 RV 54 42 Obama +12

PPP (D)

11/10 - 11/13 800 RV 49 43 Obama +6

And this is with Grinch in what should be his honeymoon period. How do you have a honeymoon with someone you dumped years ago?

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You are too funny! You actually think the serial cheater and amnesty for illegal immigrants proponent is going to win the best of the seven dwarves contest? Fox nailed it this AM calling him a "disgusting fat pig" but hey it's all you got.

Weirdo.

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Latest FOX News poll out today; 51% of voters disapprove of zerO's job performance and the same poll has zerO losing to any generic republican. I can't speak for the polls on your planet.

It's the same planet, you just refuse to look at facts if they don't support what you want to believe. The polls are telling us that the people are open to another President to replace Obama. They don't see Gingrich as filling that role. If he's such a great candidate, why did it take the collapse of all the other candidacies for you guys to figure out how brilliant he supposedly is? Can't answer that, can you.

Here are the facts. You Republicans don't have a credible alternative. A couple years ago, Palin was your savior. A couple months ago, it was Perry. Then it was Cain. They've all bitten the dust. Huntsman is a responsible candidate but he's too reasonable for the Republican party. You can't stand Romney, and I can understand why. As for Gingrich, the American people are not going to elect an unstable serial adulterer who has already proved that he doesn't have the temperament to be President.

Hey, I have an idea. What about Giuliani? :lol:

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Latest FOX News poll out today; 51% of voters disapprove of zerO's job performance and the same poll has zerO losing to any generic republican. I can't speak for the polls on your planet.

I didn't see "generic candidate" at the Republican debate Saturday night. I saw Mitt Romney wanting to make a $10,000 bet with Perry, Romney calling Gingrich a "bomb thrower" and Newt Gingrich rationalizing the $1.8 million he got from Freddie Mac with, "I was in the private sector." The Republican audience's groan at Gingrich's rationalization tells you how unbelievable that was.

Patriot, where was Mr. Generic hiding on Saturday night?

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It's the same planet, you just refuse to look at facts if they don't support what you want to believe. The polls are telling us that the people are open to another President to replace Obama. They don't see Gingrich as filling that role. If he's such a great candidate, why did it take the collapse of all the other candidacies for you guys to figure out how brilliant he supposedly is? Can't answer that, can you.

Here are the facts. You Republicans don't have a credible alternative. A couple years ago, Palin was your savior. A couple months ago, it was Perry. Then it was Cain. They've all bitten the dust. Huntsman is a responsible candidate but he's too reasonable for the Republican party. You can't stand Romney, and I can understand why. As for Gingrich, the American people are not going to elect an unstable serial adulterer who has already proved that he doesn't have the temperament to be President.

Hey, I have an idea. What about Giuliani? :lol:

Democrats are so hypocritical it's ridiculous. Gingrich is evil because he's been married 3 times yet they worship Clinton who raped two women while governor in Arkansas, sodomized a woman in the white house then lied about it under oath to congress. If Clinton was somehow able to run for president again the Loonys would flock to him like the messiah.

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Guest You funny guy, Joe

Democrats are so hypocritical it's ridiculous. Gingrich is evil because he's been married 3 times yet they worship Clinton who raped two women while governor in Arkansas, sodomized a woman in the white house then lied about it under oath to congress. If Clinton was somehow able to run for president again the Loonys would flock to him like the messiah.

It's the conservative republicans that are anti Gingrich, dummy. Coulter, Will, Savage, Noonan, etc AND the National Review have come out against him as the candidate to represent the feeble minded. Try to focus before posting or your tea bag party membership will be revoked... Forget the last part, thinking is not required for tea bag membership.

Bachmann 2012

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