Questions for right wing knuckle-draggers

[Guest Guest]

Name one developed country that is doing well economically that operates the way Packrat/2Stupid4Words says the US should operate.

Spend all the time looking you want to spend. There aren't any. That is because modern economies cannot operate the way the right wing knuckle-draggers want them to operate. They will gravitate toward economic bubbles built on speculation instead of value (because in an unregulated economy the big players only care about profits, not about productivity or value added to the economy) and toward fewer and fewer people holding most of the wealth. They tend not to invest in the future well-being of the country because the profit-takers only care about profits in the short term, so they lobby for lower and lower taxes even if taxes are needed to boost the national economy. In a global economy, which is what we live in now, if they ruin the United States, they'll go invest in China. They don't care.

This is exactly what has happened in the United States over the past 30+ years, during the period of right wing ascendance. Not to mention that we can't take a 21st century economy back to an 18th century economic model.

What I'm waiting to see is how long it will take 2Stupid4Words, a/k/a Packrat, to figure it out.

[Guest Guest]

Name one developed country that is doing well economically that operates the way Packrat/2Stupid4Words says the US should operate.

Spend all the time looking you want to spend. There aren't any. That is because modern economies cannot operate the way the right wing knuckle-draggers want them to operate. They will gravitate toward economic bubbles built on speculation instead of value (because in an unregulated economy the big players only care about profits, not about productivity or value added to the economy) and toward fewer and fewer people holding most of the wealth. They tend not to invest in the future well-being of the country because the profit-takers only care about profits in the short term, so they lobby for lower and lower taxes even if taxes are needed to boost the national economy. In a global economy, which is what we live in now, if they ruin the United States, they'll go invest in China. They don't care.

This is exactly what has happened in the United States over the past 30+ years, during the period of right wing ascendance. Not to mention that we can't take a 21st century economy back to an 18th century economic model.

What I'm waiting to see is how long it will take 2Stupid4Words, a/k/a Packrat, to figure it out.

Every word of it is true. Where are Packrat, a/k/a 2Stupid4Words now?

[Guest Guest]

And of course there is no response from the knuckle-draggers. Their entire ideology rests on the feasibility of an economic model that isn't in practice anywhere in the developed world. It's pure fantasy. And none of it matters to them one bit.

[Guest 2smart4u]

Name one developed country that is doing well economically that operates the way Packrat/2Stupid4Words says the US should operate.

Spend all the time looking you want to spend. There aren't any. That is because modern economies cannot operate the way the right wing knuckle-draggers want them to operate. They will gravitate toward economic bubbles built on speculation instead of value (because in an unregulated economy the big players only care about profits, not about productivity or value added to the economy) and toward fewer and fewer people holding most of the wealth. They tend not to invest in the future well-being of the country because the profit-takers only care about profits in the short term, so they lobby for lower and lower taxes even if taxes are needed to boost the national economy. In a global economy, which is what we live in now, if they ruin the United States, they'll go invest in China. They don't care.

This is exactly what has happened in the United States over the past 30+ years, during the period of right wing ascendance. Not to mention that we can't take a 21st century economy back to an 18th century economic model.

Im waiting to see is how long it will take 2Stupid4Words, a/k/a Packrat, to figure it out.

Now what would a low I.Q. hamburger flipper know about world economics. Make me laugh.

[Guest Guest]

So Kearny's knuckle-dragger-in-chief weighs in with a non-response. Here's the question again: Name one country in the developed world that operates the way you want the US to operate.

You can just admit that there aren't any, for the simple reason that this isn't the 18th century any more. Economies are more complex than they were then, and with that complexity comes more government. You can whine, moan and complain about it but you can't change it.

Got anything intelligent to say, Mr. Knuckle-dragger, a/k/a 2Stupid4Words? (They say there's a first time for everything.)

[Guest Guest]

Still no answer from Kearny's knuckle-dragger-in-chief.

[Guest Guest]

Name one developed country that is doing well economically that operates the way Packrat/2Stupid4Words says the US should operate.

Spend all the time looking you want to spend. There aren't any. That is because modern economies cannot operate the way the right wing knuckle-draggers want them to operate. They will gravitate toward economic bubbles built on speculation instead of value (because in an unregulated economy the big players only care about profits, not about productivity or value added to the economy) and toward fewer and fewer people holding most of the wealth. They tend not to invest in the future well-being of the country because the profit-takers only care about profits in the short term, so they lobby for lower and lower taxes even if taxes are needed to boost the national economy. In a global economy, which is what we live in now, if they ruin the United States, they'll go invest in China. They don't care.

This is exactly what has happened in the United States over the past 30+ years, during the period of right wing ascendance. Not to mention that we can't take a 21st century economy back to an 18th century economic model.

What I'm waiting to see is how long it will take 2Stupid4Words, a/k/a Packrat, to figure it out.

After more than a month, still there is no answer from any of Kearny's knuckle-draggers.

If you can't answer a simple question, that's probably because your opinions contradict reality. When you see that happening, it's time to change your opinions.

[Guest Guest]

Name one developed country that is doing well economically that operates the way Packrat/2Stupid4Words says the US should operate.

Spend all the time looking you want to spend. There aren't any. That is because modern economies cannot operate the way the right wing knuckle-draggers want them to operate. They will gravitate toward economic bubbles built on speculation instead of value (because in an unregulated economy the big players only care about profits, not about productivity or value added to the economy) and toward fewer and fewer people holding most of the wealth. They tend not to invest in the future well-being of the country because the profit-takers only care about profits in the short term, so they lobby for lower and lower taxes even if taxes are needed to boost the national economy. In a global economy, which is what we live in now, if they ruin the United States, they'll go invest in China. They don't care.

This is exactly what has happened in the United States over the past 30+ years, during the period of right wing ascendance. Not to mention that we can't take a 21st century economy back to an 18th century economic model.

What I'm waiting to see is how long it will take 2Stupid4Words, a/k/a Packrat, to figure it out.

People will figure it out sooner or later. The main question is whether they'll figure it out after tens of millions of people starve or die in the streets after chaos breaks loose when the economy collapses. It will happen if people don't understand the need for a responsible government that attends to the people's needs and reins in the natural greed that is built into the capitalist system. FDR saved capitalism in the 1930s by regulating it and curbing its excesses. Unless that happens again, soon, there is going to be widespread suffering in America again.

[Guest Guest]

Name one developed country that is doing well economically that operates the way Packrat/2Stupid4Words says the US should operate.

Spend all the time looking you want to spend. There aren't any. That is because modern economies cannot operate the way the right wing knuckle-draggers want them to operate. They will gravitate toward economic bubbles built on speculation instead of value (because in an unregulated economy the big players only care about profits, not about productivity or value added to the economy) and toward fewer and fewer people holding most of the wealth. They tend not to invest in the future well-being of the country because the profit-takers only care about profits in the short term, so they lobby for lower and lower taxes even if taxes are needed to boost the national economy. In a global economy, which is what we live in now, if they ruin the United States, they'll go invest in China. They don't care.

This is exactly what has happened in the United States over the past 30+ years, during the period of right wing ascendance. Not to mention that we can't take a 21st century economy back to an 18th century economic model.

What I'm waiting to see is how long it will take 2Stupid4Words, a/k/a Packrat, to figure it out.

Still no response from Knuckle-Dragger.

[Guest Guest]

Name one developed country that is doing well economically that operates the way Packrat/2Stupid4Words says the US should operate.

Spend all the time looking you want to spend. There aren't any. That is because modern economies cannot operate the way the right wing knuckle-draggers want them to operate. They will gravitate toward economic bubbles built on speculation instead of value (because in an unregulated economy the big players only care about profits, not about productivity or value added to the economy) and toward fewer and fewer people holding most of the wealth. They tend not to invest in the future well-being of the country because the profit-takers only care about profits in the short term, so they lobby for lower and lower taxes even if taxes are needed to boost the national economy. In a global economy, which is what we live in now, if they ruin the United States, they'll go invest in China. They don't care.

This is exactly what has happened in the United States over the past 30+ years, during the period of right wing ascendance. Not to mention that we can't take a 21st century economy back to an 18th century economic model.

What I'm waiting to see is how long it will take 2Stupid4Words, a/k/a Packrat, to figure it out.

Still no response from Knuckle-Dragger. He won't answer it because he can't. That's because it's true. There isn't one developed country in the world that does it the way he thinks we should do it. And that's because every competent leader in the world knows it won't work. If we did it his way, the economy would collapse, and every competent economist knows it.

By the way, he's calling himself "Patriot" this week. What a joke that is.

[Guest Guest]

Name one developed country that is doing well economically that operates the way Packrat/2Stupid4Words says the US should operate.

Spend all the time looking you want to spend. There aren't any. That is because modern economies cannot operate the way the right wing knuckle-draggers want them to operate. They will gravitate toward economic bubbles built on speculation instead of value (because in an unregulated economy the big players only care about profits, not about productivity or value added to the economy) and toward fewer and fewer people holding most of the wealth. They tend not to invest in the future well-being of the country because the profit-takers only care about profits in the short term, so they lobby for lower and lower taxes even if taxes are needed to boost the national economy. In a global economy, which is what we live in now, if they ruin the United States, they'll go invest in China. They don't care.

This is exactly what has happened in the United States over the past 30+ years, during the period of right wing ascendance. Not to mention that we can't take a 21st century economy back to an 18th century economic model.

What I'm waiting to see is how long it will take 2Stupid4Words, a/k/a Packrat, to figure it out.

No response from the knuckle-draggers. They can't summon a response when the facts contradict their fantasies. Instead of changing their minds, they just ignore the facts and all reason. That is why they are properly called knuckle-draggers. Their knuckles dragging on the ground when they walk because they haven't evolved from the apes.

Guys, get a clue. You can't be patriots, or smart, without facing the facts.

[Guest Guest]

Name one developed country that is doing well economically that operates the way Packrat/2Stupid4Words says the US should operate.

Spend all the time looking you want to spend. There aren't any. That is because modern economies cannot operate the way the right wing knuckle-draggers want them to operate. They will gravitate toward economic bubbles built on speculation instead of value (because in an unregulated economy the big players only care about profits, not about productivity or value added to the economy) and toward fewer and fewer people holding most of the wealth. They tend not to invest in the future well-being of the country because the profit-takers only care about profits in the short term, so they lobby for lower and lower taxes even if taxes are needed to boost the national economy. In a global economy, which is what we live in now, if they ruin the United States, they'll go invest in China. They don't care.

This is exactly what has happened in the United States over the past 30+ years, during the period of right wing ascendance. Not to mention that we can't take a 21st century economy back to an 18th century economic model.

What I'm waiting to see is how long it will take 2Stupid4Words, a/k/a Packrat, to figure it out.

Still no response. This is one of the dozen or so questions that a person MUST answer to understand the economy today. The knuckle-draggers can't answer it, and they don't even try to understand it.

[Guest Guest]

Name one developed country that is doing well economically that operates the way Packrat/2Stupid4Words says the US should operate.

Spend all the time looking you want to spend. There aren't any. That is because modern economies cannot operate the way the right wing knuckle-draggers want them to operate. They will gravitate toward economic bubbles built on speculation instead of value (because in an unregulated economy the big players only care about profits, not about productivity or value added to the economy) and toward fewer and fewer people holding most of the wealth. They tend not to invest in the future well-being of the country because the profit-takers only care about profits in the short term, so they lobby for lower and lower taxes even if taxes are needed to boost the national economy. In a global economy, which is what we live in now, if they ruin the United States, they'll go invest in China. They don't care.

This is exactly what has happened in the United States over the past 30+ years, during the period of right wing ascendance. Not to mention that we can't take a 21st century economy back to an 18th century economic model.

What I'm waiting to see is how long it will take 2Stupid4Words, a/k/a Packrat, to figure it out.

Still no answer.

[Guest Independent voter]

Still no answer.

The answer is President Romney in Nov.

[Guest Guest]

The answer is President Romney in Nov.

That's not an answer to the question. It's not an answer to our problems. And you obviously don't know what the word "independent" means.

[Guest Guest]

The top one percent of earners in this country pay 37% of the total taxes collected. How much do you think they should pay? Keep in mind that 47% of the people in this country pay no taxes.

[Guest Patriot]

The top one percent of earners in this country pay 37% of the total taxes collected. How much do you think they should pay? Keep in mind that 47% of the people in this country pay no taxes.

A rarity on KOTW, a clear thinking American that doesn't swig Kool-Aid.

[Guest ko]

The top one percent of earners in this country pay 37% of the total taxes collected. How much do you think they should pay? Keep in mind that 47% of the people in this country pay no taxes.

A. That's funny, because the top one percent also OWNS 38% of the country's wealth!

B. The 47% does pay taxes. Last time I checked, INCOME tax wasn't the only tax levied against private citizens these days.

C. Most of the 47% are below the poverty line.

D. The distribution of wealth in America is appalling. The top ten percent own about 70% of the country's wealth.

E. F**K YOURSELF!

read...for once:

http://www.theatlant...e-taxes/246721/

[Guest Guest]

The top one percent of earners in this country pay 37% of the total taxes collected. How much do you think they should pay? Keep in mind that 47% of the people in this country pay no taxes.

That doesn't answer the question either. The top 1% are doing extremely well, and in fact are increasing their share of wealth, so apparently they can handle what they're paying. People who make a lot of money and do very well under the system should expect to pay a lot, especially when their share of the total wealth keeps increasing. If 37%, or whatever they're paying, was hurting them, their share of wealth would be declining. But it's not, so there goes your argument. Dead. Flattened. Done.

Now answer the question.

What developed country has a system even remotely comparable to what the right wing knuckleheads are proposing? You can't name one because there aren't any. The reason for that is that a system like that wouldn't work. You may not like government and I may agree with you that it's inefficient but if you think we can just scale it back, then you're not thinking very carefully.

[Guest Guest]

The top one percent of earners in this country pay 37% of the total taxes collected. How much do you think they should pay? Keep in mind that 47% of the people in this country pay no taxes.

That's not entirely accurate, as ko points out. But let's take your statistics at face value. Ask yourself some other questions:

What do the statistics mean? If the top 1% are paying 37% of the taxes and they're still getting richer, then how much money are they making? If they're making tens of millions of dollars without contributing to the economy through productivity, is there something wrong with the laws that allow them to do that? If they're piling away a fortune through speculation that destabilizes our economy, what should we do about it? If people making less than $30,000 per year don't pay federal income taxes, but are still paying payroll taxes, sales taxes and other taxes, and are continuing to fall further into an economic hole, how much do you expect them to pay? When we know you're getting your "information" from Fox and other right wing media outlets, shouldn't you question what they're telling you?

You're being propagandized. Consider honestly where you're getting this "information" and what the biases and interests of your "sources" are. No matter how many times we tell you this, it's no good until you listen, question what you're being told, and think about these things from A to Z.

[Guest Patriot]

A. That's funny, because the top one percent also OWNS 38% of the country's wealth!

B. The 47% does pay taxes. Last time I checked, INCOME tax wasn't the only tax levied against private citizens these days.

C. Most of the 47% are below the poverty line.

D. The distribution of wealth in America is appalling. The top ten percent own about 70% of the country's wealth.

E. F**K YOURSELF!

read...for once:

http://www.theatlant...e-taxes/246721/

Spoken like a true socialist. America is a free republic and as such people are free to work as hard as they want to attain what they want to the best of their abilities. Some people will attain more than others. Some people will work 14 hours a day while others are content to drink a sixpak in front of the TV.

People who got rich though their own hard work shouldn't have to share their money with the Joe Sixpaks of the world. We're a country of winners and losers, it's clear you're on the side of the losers.

[Guest Guest]

Spoken like a true socialist. America is a free republic and as such people are free to work as hard as they want to attain what they want to the best of their abilities. Some people will attain more than others. Some people will work 14 hours a day while others are content to drink a sixpak in front of the TV.

People who got rich though their own hard work shouldn't have to share their money with the Joe Sixpaks of the world. We're a country of winners and losers, it's clear you're on the side of the losers.

Spoken like a true idiot.

The 1% are not getting rich through hard work. Most of them make more than 80% of their money from unearned income, and even those who work are likely to be CEOs making tens of millions of dollars a year, far more than anyone's work is worth. Some of them, such as the hedge fund managers and other speculative investors, make a living destabilizing and thereby harming the economy. They've rigged the game. Then you have people like rock stars and athletes who earn obscene amounts of money, even though they contribute far less to society than research scientists.

This country was built on a foundation of reward for hard work and for contributing to society's prosperity. We are turning away from that into a sick society: not because there's too little reward within the capitalist system but because too little of that reward goes for actual work and for actually contributing to economic prosperity. Reward for work is an important value but like most good values, it has its limits. You don't seem to understand that.