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Well we now have the change zerO has been promising. Our credit rating has been downgraded to AA+, the first time in the history of America, and it only took zerO 32 months to accomplish this unpresidented feat. Can you imagine what he can accomplish if we re-elect him?? There's no telling how far we can decline as a country if we give this socialist ideologue 8 full years!! And hey, after 8 years if the Chinese Red Star is flying over the white house, we can always blame Bush. Hell,we can blame Bush 1&2 and Reagan too.

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Well we now have the change zerO has been promising. Our credit rating has been downgraded to AA+, the first time in the history of America, and it only took zerO 32 months to accomplish this unpresidented feat. Can you imagine what he can accomplish if we re-elect him?? There's no telling how far we can decline as a country if we give this socialist ideologue 8 full years!! And hey, after 8 years if the Chinese Red Star is flying over the white house, we can always blame Bush. Hell,we can blame Bush 1&2 and Reagan too.

...and which of your messiah teabags will lead us from this terrible situation? None poll higher than 12%.

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HOPE is not a strategy, and CHANGE is not a destination.

As spoken by zerO, hope and change were meaningless words intended to entice voters into thinking something good or positive would happen if they voted for him. Even the Loonies on the fringe left have to agree what we have gotten is No Hope & Change For The Worse.

There is nothing/nil/nada/zip/zilch and zero you can point to and say "this is better under zerO". I challenge any Loony to shut me up and prove me wrong.

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Well we now have the change zerO has been promising. Our credit rating has been downgraded to AA+, the first time in the history of America, and it only took zerO 32 months to accomplish this unpresidented feat. Can you imagine what he can accomplish if we re-elect him?? There's no telling how far we can decline as a country if we give this socialist ideologue 8 full years!! And hey, after 8 years if the Chinese Red Star is flying over the white house, we can always blame Bush. Hell,we can blame Bush 1&2 and Reagan too.

You should read Standard & Poor's report on the U.S. credit rating before criticizing the President or presenting the Fox Cable talking point on the downgrade. Here's directly from the report which blamed both Republicans and Democrats:

The political brinksmanship of recent months highlights what we see as

America's governance and policymaking becoming less stable, less effective,

and less predictable than what we previously believed. The statutory debt

ceiling and the threat of default have become political bargaining chips in

the debate over fiscal policy. Despite this year's wide-ranging debate, in our

view, the differences between political parties have proven to be

extraordinarily difficult to bridge, and, as we see it, the resulting

agreement fell well short of the comprehensive fiscal consolidation program

that some proponents had envisaged until quite recently. Republicans and

Democrats have only been able to agree to relatively modest savings on

discretionary spending while delegating to the Select Committee decisions on

more comprehensive measures. It appears that for now, new revenues have

dropped down on the menu of policy options. In addition, the plan envisions

only minor policy changes on Medicare and little change in other entitlements,

the containment of which we and most other independent observers regard as key

to long-term fiscal sustainability.

Our opinion is that elected officials remain wary of tackling the

structural issues required to effectively address the rising U.S. public debt

burden in a manner consistent with a 'AAA' rating and with 'AAA' rated

sovereign peers (see Sovereign Government Rating Methodology and Assumptions,"

June 30, 2011, especially Paragraphs 36-41). In our view, the difficulty in

framing a consensus on fiscal policy weakens the government's ability to

manage public finances and diverts attention from the debate over how to

achieve more balanced and dynamic economic growth in an era of fiscal

stringency and private-sector deleveraging (ibid). A new political consensus

might (or might not) emerge after the 2012 elections, but we believe that by

then, the government debt burden will likely be higher, the needed medium-term

fiscal adjustment potentially greater, and the inflection point on the U.S.

population's demographics and other age-related spending drivers closer at

hand (see "Global Aging 2011: In The U.S., Going Gray Will Likely Cost Even

More Green, Now," June 21, 2011).

Standard & Poor's takes no position on the mix of spending and revenue

measures that Congress and the Administration might conclude is appropriate

for putting the U.S.'s finances on a sustainable footing.

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You should read Standard & Poor's report on the U.S. credit rating before criticizing the President or presenting the Fox Cable talking point on the downgrade. Here's directly from the report which blamed both Republicans and Democrats:

The political brinksmanship of recent months highlights what we see as

America's governance and policymaking becoming less stable, less effective,

and less predictable than what we previously believed. The statutory debt

ceiling and the threat of default have become political bargaining chips in

the debate over fiscal policy. Despite this year's wide-ranging debate, in our

view, the differences between political parties have proven to be

extraordinarily difficult to bridge, and, as we see it, the resulting

agreement fell well short of the comprehensive fiscal consolidation program

that some proponents had envisaged until quite recently. Republicans and

Democrats have only been able to agree to relatively modest savings on

discretionary spending while delegating to the Select Committee decisions on

more comprehensive measures. It appears that for now, new revenues have

dropped down on the menu of policy options. In addition, the plan envisions

only minor policy changes on Medicare and little change in other entitlements,

the containment of which we and most other independent observers regard as key

to long-term fiscal sustainability.

Our opinion is that elected officials remain wary of tackling the

structural issues required to effectively address the rising U.S. public debt

burden in a manner consistent with a 'AAA' rating and with 'AAA' rated

sovereign peers (see Sovereign Government Rating Methodology and Assumptions,"

June 30, 2011, especially Paragraphs 36-41). In our view, the difficulty in

framing a consensus on fiscal policy weakens the government's ability to

manage public finances and diverts attention from the debate over how to

achieve more balanced and dynamic economic growth in an era of fiscal

stringency and private-sector deleveraging (ibid). A new political consensus

might (or might not) emerge after the 2012 elections, but we believe that by

then, the government debt burden will likely be higher, the needed medium-term

fiscal adjustment potentially greater, and the inflection point on the U.S.

population's demographics and other age-related spending drivers closer at

hand (see "Global Aging 2011: In The U.S., Going Gray Will Likely Cost Even

More Green, Now," June 21, 2011).

Standard & Poor's takes no position on the mix of spending and revenue

measures that Congress and the Administration might conclude is appropriate

for putting the U.S.'s finances on a sustainable footing.

2stupdid4words has plenty to say until someone presents the facts.

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