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Obama's decision to bring the mastermind of 9/11 to NY to go through the farce of a civilian trial is another clear example of the bleeding-heart far left socialist views of this imposter to the presidency.

This terrorist should have been tried in a military court right after he was captured and then hung. To bring him to NY where so many Americans died because of him is an outrage to all the families who lost family and loved ones that day.

We all know the circus this trial will turn into with defense attorneys dragging this on for months at a cost of

millions of taxpayer dollars.

All we need now is a loony socialist judge to turn him loose because he was waterboarded.

Personally I think that's what Obama's hoping for.

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Obama's decision to bring the mastermind of 9/11 to NY to go through the farce of a civilian trial is another clear example of the bleeding-heart far left socialist views of this imposter to the presidency.

This terrorist should have been tried in a military court right after he was captured and then hung. To bring him to NY where so many Americans died because of him is an outrage to all the families who lost family and loved ones that day.

We all know the circus this trial will turn into with defense attorneys dragging this on for months at a cost of

millions of taxpayer dollars.

All we need now is a loony socialist judge to turn him loose because he was waterboarded.

Personally I think that's what Obama's hoping for.

Personally I think you're an idiot.

A trial on our soil in one of our courts - that's your idea of an outrage.

Thinking it over, I change my opinion. You're an idiot and a jackass.

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Obama's decision to bring the mastermind of 9/11 to NY to go through the farce of a civilian trial is another clear example of the bleeding-heart far left socialist views of this imposter to the presidency.

This terrorist should have been tried in a military court right after he was captured and then hung. To bring him to NY where so many Americans died because of him is an outrage to all the families who lost family and loved ones that day.

We all know the circus this trial will turn into with defense attorneys dragging this on for months at a cost of

millions of taxpayer dollars.

All we need now is a loony socialist judge to turn him loose because he was waterboarded.

Personally I think that's what Obama's hoping for.

Perhaps you'd care to explain why your pissant little cowboy did NOTHING to try the cases of people in custody for YEARS?

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Obama's decision to bring the mastermind of 9/11 to NY to go through the farce of a civilian trial is another clear example of the bleeding-heart far left socialist views of this imposter to the presidency.

This terrorist should have been tried in a military court right after he was captured and then hung. To bring him to NY where so many Americans died because of him is an outrage to all the families who lost family and loved ones that day.

We all know the circus this trial will turn into with defense attorneys dragging this on for months at a cost of

millions of taxpayer dollars.

All we need now is a loony socialist judge to turn him loose because he was waterboarded.

Personally I think that's what Obama's hoping for.

Couldn't agree more. This terrorist wanted to be brought to NY because he knew the world-wide publicity it would give him. This circus will only embolden suicide terrorists who want to make a name for themselves. And the pain and disrespect to the 9/11 families is beyond measure. I voted for Obama and what a mistake it was. This is also another nail in the Obama re-election coffin.

in the coffin of the Obama presidency.

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Obama's decision to bring the mastermind of 9/11 to NY to go through the farce of a civilian trial is another clear example of the bleeding-heart far left socialist views of this imposter to the presidency.

This terrorist should have been tried in a military court right after he was captured and then hung. To bring him to NY where so many Americans died because of him is an outrage to all the families who lost family and loved ones that day.

We all know the circus this trial will turn into with defense attorneys dragging this on for months at a cost of

millions of taxpayer dollars.

All we need now is a loony socialist judge to turn him loose because he was waterboarded.

Personally I think that's what Obama's hoping for.

Thanks Tumor4u for another opportunity to dispute you fully.

It is a brilliant, absolutely BRILLIANT decision to bring Khalid Shaikh Mohammed into New York City to face trial for organizing the 9-11-01 attacks and the entire world will applaud it.

It is symbolic of American virtue and justice to hold the trial of a very unique criminal right in the heart of the epic crime scene itself.

New York City is the greatest city in the entire world, fully entitled and poetically obliged to stage the legal prosecution of the 9-11-01 accused. Tough as terror itself, New York City and every victim of 9-11-01 DESERVES no less than this trial to be held as planned.

If President Barack Obama indeed made this decision, his leadership CONTINUES to dwarf the Bushninny's by comparison.

Tumor4u, because "so many Americans died" in New York City on 9-11-01 is precisely why the trial should take place there. Our fellow Americans and New York City metropolitans that lost life, love and limb on 9-11-01 will embrace this somber affair and its perfect venue with the steel of personal conviction and the best possible expectation of closure, something the Bushwreck was incapable of grasping as they incessantly played the fearcard upon a vulnerable America. Tell me how anyone personally affected by 9-11-01 in New York City would willingly pass the work of bringing justice to those events to any other location BUT New York City?

It's a shame that political protocol limits the criticism by one presidential administration to another. It's the game that must be played by our leadership. But in turn to your mindreading about President Obama's thoughts and true intentions, I mindread that President Obama's regard for G W Bush is with disgust and even shock for the almost comical blunderings and fascist ego and hypocritical cowardice that the Bush era symbolizes.

You are a chippie of Beck and a ditto of limpo, Tumor4u. Complete with the little zinger about how much the Khalid Shaikh Mohammed trial will cost. Doncha remember that bumpersticker that says, "Freedom is not Free"? :huh:

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Couldn't agree more. This terrorist wanted to be brought to NY because he knew the world-wide publicity it would give him. This circus will only embolden suicide terrorists who want to make a name for themselves. And the pain and disrespect to the 9/11 families is beyond measure. I voted for Obama and what a mistake it was. This is also another nail in the Obama re-election coffin.

Thank you for your opinion, Mayor Leadbeater. :huh:

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Thanks Tumor4u for another opportunity to dispute you fully.

It is a brilliant, absolutely BRILLIANT decision to bring Khalid Shaikh Mohammed into New York City to face trial for organizing the 9-11-01 attacks and the entire world will applaud it.

It is symbolic of American virtue and justice to hold the trial of a very unique criminal right in the heart of the epic crime scene itself.

New York City is the greatest city in the entire world, fully entitled and poetically obliged to stage the legal prosecution of the 9-11-01 accused. Tough as terror itself, New York City and every victim of 9-11-01 DESERVES no less than this trial to be held as planned.

If President Barack Obama indeed made this decision, his leadership CONTINUES to dwarf the Bushninny's by comparison.

Tumor4u, because "so many Americans died" in New York City on 9-11-01 is precisely why the trial should take place there. Our fellow Americans and New York City metropolitans that lost life, love and limb on 9-11-01 will embrace this somber affair and its perfect venue with the steel of personal conviction and the best possible expectation of closure, something the Bushwreck was incapable of grasping as they incessantly played the fearcard upon a vulnerable America. Tell me how anyone personally affected by 9-11-01 in New York City would willingly pass the work of bringing justice to those events to any other location BUT New York City?

It's a shame that political protocol limits the criticism by one presidential administration to another. It's the game that must be played by our leadership. But in turn to your mindreading about President Obama's thoughts and true intentions, I mindread that President Obama's regard for G W Bush is with disgust and even shock for the almost comical blunderings and fascist ego and hypocritical cowardice that the Bush era symbolizes.

You are a chippie of Beck and a ditto of limpo, Tumor4u. Complete with the little zinger about how much the Khalid Shaikh Mohammed trial will cost. Doncha remember that bumpersticker that says, "Freedom is not Free"? :huh:

Read my post #4 above, you limp-wristed Kool-Aid swigging socialist cupcake.

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Obama's decision to bring the mastermind of 9/11 to NY to go through the farce of a civilian trial is another clear example of the bleeding-heart far left socialist views of this imposter to the presidency.

This terrorist should have been tried in a military court right after he was captured and then hung. To bring him to NY where so many Americans died because of him is an outrage to all the families who lost family and loved ones that day.

We all know the circus this trial will turn into with defense attorneys dragging this on for months at a cost of

millions of taxpayer dollars.

All we need now is a loony socialist judge to turn him loose because he was waterboarded.

Personally I think that's what Obama's hoping for.

Out of curiousity, Where was the trial for the 1993 bombers of the trade center? I always heard New Yorkers were tough. I bet they can handle it even if you can't.

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Out of curiousity, Where was the trial for the 1993 bombers of the trade center? I always heard New Yorkers were tough. I bet they can handle it even if you can't.

True enough, New Yorkers are tough, and will handle this like many other tribulations that they face. My question is, do you believe that someone caught ON THE BATTLEFIELD is a law enforcement issue? I don't. A military tribunal is exactly where I expect a "soldier of Allah" to be tried. Fair trial, yes; jury of his peers, NO! How do you afford the rights of this great country to a man who holds our values in disdain.

A trial in a US court grants KSM the forum to indict this country in a very public forum, and I don't think we should allow it. But, the decision has been made, and time will tell if it is the US at its greatest virtue, or a silver plattered invitation to join the Jihad.

Incidentally, when they brought Ramzi Youssef back to this country for trial, in a helicopter overlooking the Twin Towers, he is said to have said, the next time they won't be standing. Such was his fear of our criminal justice system.

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True enough, New Yorkers are tough, and will handle this like many other tribulations that they face. My question is, do you believe that someone caught ON THE BATTLEFIELD is a law enforcement issue? I don't. A military tribunal is exactly where I expect a "soldier of Allah" to be tried. Fair trial, yes; jury of his peers, NO! How do you afford the rights of this great country to a man who holds our values in disdain.

A trial in a US court grants KSM the forum to indict this country in a very public forum, and I don't think we should allow it. But, the decision has been made, and time will tell if it is the US at its greatest virtue, or a silver plattered invitation to join the Jihad.

Incidentally, when they brought Ramzi Youssef back to this country for trial, in a helicopter overlooking the Twin Towers, he is said to have said, the next time they won't be standing. Such was his fear of our criminal justice system.

Thank you, Loki. I was beginning to think we didn't have a clear head (except mine) on this board.

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True enough, New Yorkers are tough, and will handle this like many other tribulations that they face. My question is, do you believe that someone caught ON THE BATTLEFIELD is a law enforcement issue? I don't. A military tribunal is exactly where I expect a "soldier of Allah" to be tried. Fair trial, yes; jury of his peers, NO! How do you afford the rights of this great country to a man who holds our values in disdain.

A trial in a US court grants KSM the forum to indict this country in a very public forum, and I don't think we should allow it. But, the decision has been made, and time will tell if it is the US at its greatest virtue, or a silver plattered invitation to join the Jihad.

Incidentally, when they brought Ramzi Youssef back to this country for trial, in a helicopter overlooking the Twin Towers, he is said to have said, the next time they won't be standing. Such was his fear of our criminal justice system.

Seems like you fear life, Gracie Allen Loki............and maybe your own shadow!

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A trial in a US court grants KSM the forum to indict this country in a very public forum, and I don't think we should allow it.

So?

Why are you afraid that some Jihadist will attempt to indict us? Do you really think anyone besides his like minded friends will take him seriously?

You conservatives such whining scared little pansies - cowards afraid of change. It is your fear that makes you so easily manipulated by the likes of Limbaugh, Coulter, Beck et al.

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True enough, New Yorkers are tough, and will handle this like many other tribulations that they face. My question is, do you believe that someone caught ON THE BATTLEFIELD is a law enforcement issue? I don't. A military tribunal is exactly where I expect a "soldier of Allah" to be tried. Fair trial, yes; jury of his peers, NO! How do you afford the rights of this great country to a man who holds our values in disdain.

A trial in a US court grants KSM the forum to indict this country in a very public forum, and I don't think we should allow it. But, the decision has been made, and time will tell if it is the US at its greatest virtue, or a silver plattered invitation to join the Jihad.

Incidentally, when they brought Ramzi Youssef back to this country for trial, in a helicopter overlooking the Twin Towers, he is said to have said, the next time they won't be standing. Such was his fear of our criminal justice system.

DAMN. NO TRIAL FOR BUSH AND CHENEY THEN EITHER. THEY "HOLD OUR VALUES" WITH DISDAIN TOO, NO? I HOPE NEITHER OF THEM GOES ABROAD ANYTIME SOON...SEEMS LIKE THEY HELD A LOT OF DISDAIN FOR THE WORLD'S VALUES. DOES A MURDERER NOT DISDAIN AMERICAN VALUES? OF COURSE HE DOES; HE WANTS TO MURDER AND THE AMERICAN VALUE SYSTEM TELLS HIM NO. IS THIS HOW WE SHOULD DECIDE WHO GETS A FAIR TRIAL? DON'T PEOPLE GO TO TRIAL BECAUSE THEY SHOW DISDAIN FOR OUR VALUE SYSTEM BY THEIR ACTIONS? HAVE YOU CHOSEN YOUR WORDS CAREFULLY, BUDDY? UGH! WHAT THE F**K ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT, ANYWAY? HE'S NOT DEALING WITH "LAW ENFORCEMENT." HE'S DEALING WITH "THE JUSTICE SYSTEM" OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. DON'T YOU HAVE FAITH IN OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM? THE MAN IS BEING PROSECUTED FOR CRIMES AGAINST AMERICANS, SHOULDN'T HE BE TRIED ON AMERICAN SOIL? IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM NOT SOUND ENOUGH FOR THIS? ARE YOU DOUBTING AMERICAN JUSTICE? HOW DARE YOU! UNAMERICAN! UNAMERICAN! COMMUNIST! PINKO! RED! YOU WANT THE "WORLD COURT" TO TAKE CARE OF THIS MATTER? A BUNCH OF SOCIALISTS? HOW DARE YOU, YOU F**KING PINK TERRORIST COMMIE VIETCONG. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? SOMEBODY ARREST THIS S.S. SOVIET NAZI! GET HIM OUT OF MY SIGHTS! GET THIS SOCIALIST HEALTHCARE REFORMIST AND HAVE HIM ARRESTED. HE WANTS THE WORLD TO SET FREE THE AFGHANI JIHADIST FOLLOWER OF ALLAH AND MUHAMMAD AND SATAN. HE WANTS TO RID THE WORLD OF AMERICAN FREEDOM TO TALK TO AN NSA AGENT EVERY TIME HE TALKS TO SOMEBODY ELSE ON THE CELL PHONE, THE TELEPHONE, THE WORLD WIDE INTERNET. HE WANTS PEOPLE TO LIVE IN A PLACE WHERE THE STREETS ARE FILLED WITH GAY BLACK TERRORISTS. HE WANTS THE JEWS TO FLY A PLANE INTO THE WORLD TRADE CENTER AGAIN. HE'S A ZIONIST BLACK PANTHER INTEGRATOR PREACHER TYPE. HE'S REVEREND WRIGHT. HE'S BARACK OBAMA. HE'S SADDAM HUSSEIN. HE'S HITLER AND HO CHI MIN. HE'S STALIN AND CHE GUEVERA AND LENIN AND LENNON. HE'S DIEGO RIVERA. HE'S ALLEN GINSBURG AND BOB DYLAN AND DYLAN THOMAS AND THOMAS JEFFERSON'S BLACK DAUGHTER. HE'S BILL THE BUTCHER. HE'S ARTHUR MILLER. he's cosmopolitan. HE'S A WOMAN WITH IDEAS. HE'S THE GUY WHO RAN AGAINST GEORGE H.W. BUSH. WHAT WAS HIS NAME? HE'S THE BLACK GUY BEHIND YOU AT THE STORE WHO DIDN'T STAY IN HIS GHETTO. HE'S A GAY NIGGER FROM OUTERSPACE. HE HAS AIDS. WATCH OUT. HE'S WHAT YOU ALL FEAR, PEOPLE. WATCH OUT FOR THIS MAN.

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True enough, New Yorkers are tough, and will handle this like many other tribulations that they face. My question is, do you believe that someone caught ON THE BATTLEFIELD is a law enforcement issue? I don't. A military tribunal is exactly where I expect a "soldier of Allah" to be tried. Fair trial, yes; jury of his peers, NO! How do you afford the rights of this great country to a man who holds our values in disdain.

So if it's a fair trial, what are you worried about? He did it. He's not going to get away with it.

Our image in the world matters. If we act like hypocrites, then that is how the world will see us.

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Out of curiousity, Where was the trial for the 1993 bombers of the trade center? I always heard New Yorkers were tough. I bet they can handle it even if you can't.

It's not a matter of "Toughness" it's a matter of legalities. By holding the trial in NYC, you are handing several lines of appeal to the defense attorneys on a gold-plated platter.

#1. Finding a Fair, and Impartial Jury. Unless they restrict it to people who have moved into the area in the last 8 years you will NOT find anyone who was not affected directly or indirectly by the 9-11 attacks in the Southern District of NY.

#2. The close proximity of the courthouse to Ground Zero. gaian, it gives the Defense Team a softball to say that the Jury was predjudiced by the mere presnece of Ground Zero that is X number of yards away from where the trial was held.

#3. The increased security that will be present, which will be readily apparent to anyone serving on the jury..again will be argued by the Defense team that it predjudiced the jury against the defendants.

The SMART thing to do, would have been to hold this Trial in Kansas, or somewhere else out in the midwest, where your Jury wont have the strong personal ties to the event, and the resulting media Circus wont Gridlock America's largest city EVERY DAMN DAY for months on end.

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DAMN. NO TRIAL FOR BUSH AND CHENEY THEN EITHER. THEY "HOLD OUR VALUES" WITH DISDAIN TOO, NO? I HOPE NEITHER OF THEM GOES ABROAD ANYTIME SOON...SEEMS LIKE THEY HELD A LOT OF DISDAIN FOR THE WORLD'S VALUES. DOES A MURDERER NOT DISDAIN AMERICAN VALUES? OF COURSE HE DOES; HE WANTS TO MURDER AND THE AMERICAN VALUE SYSTEM TELLS HIM NO. IS THIS HOW WE SHOULD DECIDE WHO GETS A FAIR TRIAL? DON'T PEOPLE GO TO TRIAL BECAUSE THEY SHOW DISDAIN FOR OUR VALUE SYSTEM BY THEIR ACTIONS? HAVE YOU CHOSEN YOUR WORDS CAREFULLY, BUDDY? UGH! WHAT THE F**K ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT, ANYWAY? HE'S NOT DEALING WITH "LAW ENFORCEMENT." HE'S DEALING WITH "THE JUSTICE SYSTEM" OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. DON'T YOU HAVE FAITH IN OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM? THE MAN IS BEING PROSECUTED FOR CRIMES AGAINST AMERICANS, SHOULDN'T HE BE TRIED ON AMERICAN SOIL? IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM NOT SOUND ENOUGH FOR THIS? ARE YOU DOUBTING AMERICAN JUSTICE? HOW DARE YOU! UNAMERICAN! UNAMERICAN! COMMUNIST! PINKO! RED! YOU WANT THE "WORLD COURT" TO TAKE CARE OF THIS MATTER? A BUNCH OF SOCIALISTS? HOW DARE YOU, YOU F**KING PINK TERRORIST COMMIE VIETCONG. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? SOMEBODY ARREST THIS S.S. SOVIET NAZI! GET HIM OUT OF MY SIGHTS! GET THIS SOCIALIST HEALTHCARE REFORMIST AND HAVE HIM ARRESTED. HE WANTS THE WORLD TO SET FREE THE AFGHANI JIHADIST FOLLOWER OF ALLAH AND MUHAMMAD AND SATAN. HE WANTS TO RID THE WORLD OF AMERICAN FREEDOM TO TALK TO AN NSA AGENT EVERY TIME HE TALKS TO SOMEBODY ELSE ON THE CELL PHONE, THE TELEPHONE, THE WORLD WIDE INTERNET. HE WANTS PEOPLE TO LIVE IN A PLACE WHERE THE STREETS ARE FILLED WITH GAY BLACK TERRORISTS. HE WANTS THE JEWS TO FLY A PLANE INTO THE WORLD TRADE CENTER AGAIN. HE'S A ZIONIST BLACK PANTHER INTEGRATOR PREACHER TYPE. HE'S REVEREND WRIGHT. HE'S BARACK OBAMA. HE'S SADDAM HUSSEIN. HE'S HITLER AND HO CHI MIN. HE'S STALIN AND CHE GUEVERA AND LENIN AND LENNON. HE'S DIEGO RIVERA. HE'S ALLEN GINSBURG AND BOB DYLAN AND DYLAN THOMAS AND THOMAS JEFFERSON'S BLACK DAUGHTER. HE'S BILL THE BUTCHER. HE'S ARTHUR MILLER. he's cosmopolitan. HE'S A WOMAN WITH IDEAS. HE'S THE GUY WHO RAN AGAINST GEORGE H.W. BUSH. WHAT WAS HIS NAME? HE'S THE BLACK GUY BEHIND YOU AT THE STORE WHO DIDN'T STAY IN HIS GHETTO. HE'S A GAY NIGGER FROM OUTERSPACE. HE HAS AIDS. WATCH OUT. HE'S WHAT YOU ALL FEAR, PEOPLE. WATCH OUT FOR THIS MAN.

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You left out low level community organizer.

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It's not a matter of "Toughness" it's a matter of legalities. By holding the trial in NYC, you are handing several lines of appeal to the defense attorneys on a gold-plated platter.

#1. Finding a Fair, and Impartial Jury. Unless they restrict it to people who have moved into the area in the last 8 years you will NOT find anyone who was not affected directly or indirectly by the 9-11 attacks in the Southern District of NY.

#2. The close proximity of the courthouse to Ground Zero. gaian, it gives the Defense Team a softball to say that the Jury was predjudiced by the mere presnece of Ground Zero that is X number of yards away from where the trial was held.

#3. The increased security that will be present, which will be readily apparent to anyone serving on the jury..again will be argued by the Defense team that it predjudiced the jury against the defendants.

The SMART thing to do, would have been to hold this Trial in Kansas, or somewhere else out in the midwest, where your Jury wont have the strong personal ties to the event, and the resulting media Circus wont Gridlock America's largest city EVERY DAMN DAY for months on end.

DAMN, THERE IS GOING TO BE TRAFFIC IN NEW YORK? THERE IS GOING TO BE A MEDIA FRENZY IN NEW YORK?

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DAMN. NO TRIAL FOR BUSH AND CHENEY THEN EITHER. THEY "HOLD OUR VALUES" WITH DISDAIN TOO, NO? I HOPE NEITHER OF THEM GOES ABROAD ANYTIME SOON...SEEMS LIKE THEY HELD A LOT OF DISDAIN FOR THE WORLD'S VALUES. DOES A MURDERER NOT DISDAIN AMERICAN VALUES? OF COURSE HE DOES; HE WANTS TO MURDER AND THE AMERICAN VALUE SYSTEM TELLS HIM NO. IS THIS HOW WE SHOULD DECIDE WHO GETS A FAIR TRIAL? DON'T PEOPLE GO TO TRIAL BECAUSE THEY SHOW DISDAIN FOR OUR VALUE SYSTEM BY THEIR ACTIONS? HAVE YOU CHOSEN YOUR WORDS CAREFULLY, BUDDY? UGH! WHAT THE F**K ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT, ANYWAY? HE'S NOT DEALING WITH "LAW ENFORCEMENT." HE'S DEALING WITH "THE JUSTICE SYSTEM" OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. DON'T YOU HAVE FAITH IN OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM? THE MAN IS BEING PROSECUTED FOR CRIMES AGAINST AMERICANS, SHOULDN'T HE BE TRIED ON AMERICAN SOIL? IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM NOT SOUND ENOUGH FOR THIS? ARE YOU DOUBTING AMERICAN JUSTICE? HOW DARE YOU! UNAMERICAN! UNAMERICAN! COMMUNIST! PINKO! RED! YOU WANT THE "WORLD COURT" TO TAKE CARE OF THIS MATTER? A BUNCH OF SOCIALISTS? HOW DARE YOU, YOU F**KING PINK TERRORIST COMMIE VIETCONG. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? SOMEBODY ARREST THIS S.S. SOVIET NAZI! GET HIM OUT OF MY SIGHTS! GET THIS SOCIALIST HEALTHCARE REFORMIST AND HAVE HIM ARRESTED. HE WANTS THE WORLD TO SET FREE THE AFGHANI JIHADIST FOLLOWER OF ALLAH AND MUHAMMAD AND SATAN. HE WANTS TO RID THE WORLD OF AMERICAN FREEDOM TO TALK TO AN NSA AGENT EVERY TIME HE TALKS TO SOMEBODY ELSE ON THE CELL PHONE, THE TELEPHONE, THE WORLD WIDE INTERNET. HE WANTS PEOPLE TO LIVE IN A PLACE WHERE THE STREETS ARE FILLED WITH GAY BLACK TERRORISTS. HE WANTS THE JEWS TO FLY A PLANE INTO THE WORLD TRADE CENTER AGAIN. HE'S A ZIONIST BLACK PANTHER INTEGRATOR PREACHER TYPE. HE'S REVEREND WRIGHT. HE'S BARACK OBAMA. HE'S SADDAM HUSSEIN. HE'S HITLER AND HO CHI MIN. HE'S STALIN AND CHE GUEVERA AND LENIN AND LENNON. HE'S DIEGO RIVERA. HE'S ALLEN GINSBURG AND BOB DYLAN AND DYLAN THOMAS AND THOMAS JEFFERSON'S BLACK DAUGHTER. HE'S BILL THE BUTCHER. HE'S ARTHUR MILLER. he's cosmopolitan. HE'S A WOMAN WITH IDEAS. HE'S THE GUY WHO RAN AGAINST GEORGE H.W. BUSH. WHAT WAS HIS NAME? HE'S THE BLACK GUY BEHIND YOU AT THE STORE WHO DIDN'T STAY IN HIS GHETTO. HE'S A GAY NIGGER FROM OUTERSPACE. HE HAS AIDS. WATCH OUT. HE'S WHAT YOU ALL FEAR, PEOPLE. WATCH OUT FOR THIS MAN.

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LET ME JUST CLARIFY.... I KNOW THIS GUY SAID MILITARY TRIBUNAL. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT YOUR F**KING OPINIONS/OUTLOOK ON THINGS. YOU'RE ALL F**KING BACKWARDS RIGHT-WING CHRISTIAN RETARDS. GO BACK TO SOUTH CAROLINA, F**KBAGS. ANYTHING OUR BLACK PRESIDENT SUGGESTED, YOU WOULD HAVE SHOT DOWN, BECAUSE YOU'RE ALL RACIST AS HELL IDIOTS.

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So if it's a fair trial, what are you worried about? He did it. He's not going to get away with it.

Our image in the world matters. If we act like hypocrites, then that is how the world will see us.

So, imagine if a judge says: "These men weren't read their Miranda rights, let them go."? I would argue that as non-citizens, they don't have these rights, but can you be so sure this wouldn't happen. In this instance there isn't even a trial, that's the end, game over.

I'm not sure why I'm surprised, there is a law firm that represented 18 terrorists already, the fact that Eric Holder was a senior partner should in no way be looked at as anything other than mere coincidence.

BTW, no matter what we do, no matter how fair we try to be, there are those who will always hate us, and what do we care what that small percentage think?

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LET ME JUST CLARIFY.... I KNOW THIS GUY SAID MILITARY TRIBUNAL. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT YOUR F**KING OPINIONS/OUTLOOK ON THINGS. YOU'RE ALL F**KING BACKWARDS RIGHT-WING CHRISTIAN RETARDS. GO BACK TO SOUTH CAROLINA, F**KBAGS. ANYTHING OUR BLACK PRESIDENT SUGGESTED, YOU WOULD HAVE SHOT DOWN, BECAUSE YOU'RE ALL RACIST AS HELL IDIOTS.

Without knowing you, I'd say you were an under-educated, under-employed, pimply face jerk with an obese girl friend. How'd I do ??

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True enough, New Yorkers are tough, and will handle this like many other tribulations that they face. My question is, do you believe that someone caught ON THE BATTLEFIELD is a law enforcement issue? I don't. A military tribunal is exactly where I expect a "soldier of Allah" to be tried. Fair trial, yes; jury of his peers, NO! How do you afford the rights of this great country to a man who holds our values in disdain.

A trial in a US court grants KSM the forum to indict this country in a very public forum, and I don't think we should allow it. But, the decision has been made, and time will tell if it is the US at its greatest virtue, or a silver plattered invitation to join the Jihad.

Incidentally, when they brought Ramzi Youssef back to this country for trial, in a helicopter overlooking the Twin Towers, he is said to have said, the next time they won't be standing. Such was his fear of our criminal justice system.

They weren't caught on a battlefield. Unless you call the whole world a battlefield. Be very careful how you frame these issues. It can easily come back to haunt us.

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It's not a matter of "Toughness" it's a matter of legalities. By holding the trial in NYC, you are handing several lines of appeal to the defense attorneys on a gold-plated platter.

#1. Finding a Fair, and Impartial Jury. Unless they restrict it to people who have moved into the area in the last 8 years you will NOT find anyone who was not affected directly or indirectly by the 9-11 attacks in the Southern District of NY.

#2. The close proximity of the courthouse to Ground Zero. gaian, it gives the Defense Team a softball to say that the Jury was predjudiced by the mere presnece of Ground Zero that is X number of yards away from where the trial was held.

#3. The increased security that will be present, which will be readily apparent to anyone serving on the jury..again will be argued by the Defense team that it predjudiced the jury against the defendants.

The SMART thing to do, would have been to hold this Trial in Kansas, or somewhere else out in the midwest, where your Jury wont have the strong personal ties to the event, and the resulting media Circus wont Gridlock America's largest city EVERY DAMN DAY for months on end.

Then it will be up to the Defendant to move for a change of venue. If he does, maybe it will be granted. If he doesn't, he waives his right and we don't have to worry about it.

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So, imagine if a judge says: "These men weren't read their Miranda rights, let them go."? I would argue that as non-citizens, they don't have these rights, but can you be so sure this wouldn't happen. In this instance there isn't even a trial, that's the end, game over.

I'm not sure why I'm surprised, there is a law firm that represented 18 terrorists already, the fact that Eric Holder was a senior partner should in no way be looked at as anything other than mere coincidence.

BTW, no matter what we do, no matter how fair we try to be, there are those who will always hate us, and what do we care what that small percentage think?

The whole world is not a small percentage. We lost the world's respect under pissant cowboy Bush because we ignored our own laws. Having this trial is part of the remedy.

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LET ME JUST CLARIFY.... I KNOW THIS GUY SAID MILITARY TRIBUNAL. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT YOUR F**KING OPINIONS/OUTLOOK ON THINGS. YOU'RE ALL F**KING BACKWARDS RIGHT-WING CHRISTIAN RETARDS. GO BACK TO SOUTH CAROLINA, F**KBAGS. ANYTHING OUR BLACK PRESIDENT SUGGESTED, YOU WOULD HAVE SHOT DOWN, BECAUSE YOU'RE ALL RACIST AS HELL IDIOTS.

The decision to try the 9-11 suspects in NYC was made entirely by Eric Holder, the Attorney General. The President, by HOLDER's own statement had no role in that decision. It was a STUPID decision on the part of Holder, not Obama. I Tried to write that in crayon so you could understand it KO, but that just isnt an option. I'm sure you can find someone to explain the big words to you.

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