Guest 2smart4u Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Obama tried to manipulate the press into isolating FOX and not allowing FOX to participate in a scheduled interview with the Pay Czar. Obama told CNN and MSNBC that he wanted to exclude FOX from the Pay Czar interview and he wanted CNN and MSNBC to support the idea. To CNN and MSNBC's credit, they both told Obama they would not support the idea and if FOX wasn't included then no one would participate. Apparently, the concept of a free press is foreign to the annointed one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Keith Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 Obama tried to manipulate the press into isolating FOX and not allowing FOX to participate in a scheduled interview with the Pay Czar. Obama told CNN and MSNBC that he wanted to exclude FOX from the Pay Czar interview and he wanted CNN and MSNBC to support the idea.To CNN and MSNBC's credit, they both told Obama they would not support the idea and if FOX wasn't included then no one would participate. Apparently, the concept of a free press is foreign to the annointed one. That's BULLSHIT and you know. Provide some proof, asshole! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 That's BULLSHIT and you know. Provide some proof, asshole! It's actually true. I saw it on FOX and it's also on FOX.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Keith Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 It's actually true. I saw it on FOX and it's also on FOX.com. You saw it on FOX? You're kidding me, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 That's BULLSHIT and you know. Provide some proof, asshole! You should stop listening to state run media, you might learn something. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2...w_and_fox_.html http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_...EMPLATE=DEFAULT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 You should stop listening to state run media, you might learn something.http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2...w_and_fox_.html http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_...EMPLATE=DEFAULT Read the NY Daily News article. The White House changed its position out of respect for how the other networks have set up the press pool. Don't think for a minute that Fox isn't being called on its constant lying and distortions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manscape Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 You should stop listening to state run media, you might learn something.http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2...w_and_fox_.html http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_...EMPLATE=DEFAULT Are you REALLY ignorant to some well warranted BALL BUSTING upon "FIX NOOSE" by an American presidential administration that has an epic mess to throttle and solve, inherited from the Bush trainwreck that was in LOCKSTEP with "FIX NOOSE" (Fox News for you rubes)......a hostile political bias machine that has run a formidable and utterly dishonest hate campaign against GOP political opposition. "Fix Noose" IS the vulgar voice of PNAC, the Bushwreck, AIPAC and collectively the GOP deadenders...add a stream of hyper-patriotic slogans and some porn looking news tootsies delivering the hate-sludge and you got a killer formula for mob delivery of distorted and dangerous political ambitions. No intelligent president would long let this chronic journalistic fraud go un-addressed that comes zombie knocking at the White House door. Bravo President Obama! May we all see the dittoheads gather on the so many little plastic screens found in the nation's urinals, for exactly what they merit. Naturally the "Fix Noose" cult stammers, "FIRST AMENDMENT IS VIOLATED!!" like a stuck pig as if the Obama team hasn't a clue about freedom of speech ..........this is America dumbed down defending the NEWSCASTING perversion of American society.......a god creeching, fear-mongering, hate advocacy/propaganda media force veiled ostensibly as legitimate journalism. When "Fix Noose" gets cornered with its bold or subtle lies, the jester defense begins with references to "entertainment" or "opinion" and turning-the-table accusations.........the jerkoffs that are its fans hiss with indignation and defiance like a drug dealer denying two kilos of coke in his car are his! Always and as if decent people are stupid and oblivious to the cheat. Log onto "Fix Noose" dot com, get past the conventional home page and dig into the posted commentaries in Politics. There you will find a vast collection of bigoted nincompoops in various forms of hate and majestic ignorance like none other.........I invite you to do just that. See the froth of foxhate so proud in demanding the failure of a new American president!......Observe the mob thinking and the violent references between and UPON the written lines....STOO-NOD references to birth certificates and religious affiliations sworn by one fraud and pledged by countless others in the FIX conga-line of hate...ad naseum the patriotic slogans as if incessant repetition of these trite bleatings will assure immortality and obscene material wealth and a golf twosome with god....fools and hypocrites that cut the throat of more than only America in their entertainment saturated ill-cognizance.....jerks that would orgasm to entire nations getting nuked to the tune of AC/DC (often citing god's approval!). That's the shank of "Fix Noose" supporters.........and I WISH it was only my opinion! If we sat today under the modern stewardship of the GOP in the American sunshine, peace and prosperity, trust and confidence, reason and compassion, hope, health and wisdom and not just for a few............WELL WE FRIGGIN DON'T. Decent people wonder why these GOP deadenders, in the 28 years since grade b actor Ronnie Raygun first soiled the president's office, don't sit the fck down and keep their gluttonous pieholes shut.......just so a ravaged America can catch its collective breath without their overbearing, shameless and destructive bellowing or the grind of their national sabotage machine, their media meddlers, "Fix Noose" that greatly enabled the state of our woes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2smart4u Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Are you REALLY ignorant to some well warranted BALL BUSTING upon "FIX NOOSE" by an American presidential administration that has an epic mess to throttle and solve, inherited from the Bush trainwreck that was in LOCKSTEP with "FIX NOOSE" (Fox News for you rubes)......a hostile political bias machine that has run a formidable and utterly dishonest hate campaign against GOP political opposition."Fix Noose" IS the vulgar voice of PNAC, the Bushwreck, AIPAC and collectively the GOP deadenders...add a stream of hyper-patriotic slogans and some porn looking news tootsies delivering the hate-sludge and you got a killer formula for mob delivery of distorted and dangerous political ambitions. No intelligent president would long let this chronic journalistic fraud go un-addressed that comes zombie knocking at the White House door. Bravo President Obama! May we all see the dittoheads gather on the so many little plastic screens found in the nation's urinals, for exactly what they merit. Naturally the "Fix Noose" cult stammers, "FIRST AMENDMENT IS VIOLATED!!" like a stuck pig as if the Obama team hasn't a clue about freedom of speech ..........this is America dumbed down defending the NEWSCASTING perversion of American society.......a god creeching, fear-mongering, hate advocacy/propaganda media force veiled ostensibly as legitimate journalism. When "Fix Noose" gets cornered with its bold or subtle lies, the jester defense begins with references to "entertainment" or "opinion" and turning-the-table accusations.........the jerkoffs that are its fans hiss with indignation and defiance like a drug dealer denying two kilos of coke in his car are his! Always and as if decent people are stupid and oblivious to the cheat. Log onto "Fix Noose" dot com, get past the conventional home page and dig into the posted commentaries in Politics. There you will find a vast collection of bigoted nincompoops in various forms of hate and majestic ignorance like none other.........I invite you to do just that. See the froth of foxhate so proud in demanding the failure of a new American president!......Observe the mob thinking and the violent references between and UPON the written lines....STOO-NOD references to birth certificates and religious affiliations sworn by one fraud and pledged by countless others in the FIX conga-line of hate...ad naseum the patriotic slogans as if incessant repetition of these trite bleatings will assure immortality and obscene material wealth and a golf twosome with god....fools and hypocrites that cut the throat of more than only America in their entertainment saturated ill-cognizance.....jerks that would orgasm to entire nations getting nuked to the tune of AC/DC (often citing god's approval!). That's the shank of "Fix Noose" supporters.........and I WISH it was only my opinion! If we sat today under the modern stewardship of the GOP in the American sunshine, peace and prosperity, trust and confidence, reason and compassion, hope, health and wisdom and not just for a few............WELL WE FRIGGIN DON'T. Decent people wonder why these GOP deadenders, in the 28 years since grade b actor Ronnie Raygun first soiled the president's office, don't sit the fck down and keep their gluttonous pieholes shut.......just so a ravaged America can catch its collective breath without their overbearing, shameless and destructive bellowing or the grind of their national sabotage machine, their media meddlers, "Fix Noose" that greatly enabled the state of our woes. I understand completely, it's all part of that great right-wing conspiracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Are you REALLY ignorant to some well warranted BALL BUSTING upon "FIX NOOSE" by an American presidential administration that has an epic mess to throttle and solve, inherited from the Bush trainwreck that was in LOCKSTEP with "FIX NOOSE" (Fox News for you rubes)......a hostile political bias machine that has run a formidable and utterly dishonest hate campaign against GOP political opposition."Fix Noose" IS the vulgar voice of PNAC, the Bushwreck, AIPAC and collectively the GOP deadenders...add a stream of hyper-patriotic slogans and some porn looking news tootsies delivering the hate-sludge and you got a killer formula for mob delivery of distorted and dangerous political ambitions. No intelligent president would long let this chronic journalistic fraud go un-addressed that comes zombie knocking at the White House door. Bravo President Obama! May we all see the dittoheads gather on the so many little plastic screens found in the nation's urinals, for exactly what they merit. Naturally the "Fix Noose" cult stammers, "FIRST AMENDMENT IS VIOLATED!!" like a stuck pig as if the Obama team hasn't a clue about freedom of speech ..........this is America dumbed down defending the NEWSCASTING perversion of American society.......a god creeching, fear-mongering, hate advocacy/propaganda media force veiled ostensibly as legitimate journalism. When "Fix Noose" gets cornered with its bold or subtle lies, the jester defense begins with references to "entertainment" or "opinion" and turning-the-table accusations.........the jerkoffs that are its fans hiss with indignation and defiance like a drug dealer denying two kilos of coke in his car are his! Always and as if decent people are stupid and oblivious to the cheat. Log onto "Fix Noose" dot com, get past the conventional home page and dig into the posted commentaries in Politics. There you will find a vast collection of bigoted nincompoops in various forms of hate and majestic ignorance like none other.........I invite you to do just that. See the froth of foxhate so proud in demanding the failure of a new American president!......Observe the mob thinking and the violent references between and UPON the written lines....STOO-NOD references to birth certificates and religious affiliations sworn by one fraud and pledged by countless others in the FIX conga-line of hate...ad naseum the patriotic slogans as if incessant repetition of these trite bleatings will assure immortality and obscene material wealth and a golf twosome with god....fools and hypocrites that cut the throat of more than only America in their entertainment saturated ill-cognizance.....jerks that would orgasm to entire nations getting nuked to the tune of AC/DC (often citing god's approval!). That's the shank of "Fix Noose" supporters.........and I WISH it was only my opinion! If we sat today under the modern stewardship of the GOP in the American sunshine, peace and prosperity, trust and confidence, reason and compassion, hope, health and wisdom and not just for a few............WELL WE FRIGGIN DON'T. Decent people wonder why these GOP deadenders, in the 28 years since grade b actor Ronnie Raygun first soiled the president's office, don't sit the fck down and keep their gluttonous pieholes shut.......just so a ravaged America can catch its collective breath without their overbearing, shameless and destructive bellowing or the grind of their national sabotage machine, their media meddlers, "Fix Noose" that greatly enabled the state of our woes. I can see why they threw you out of the Twin Trees and told you don't come back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manscape Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 I understand completely, it's all part of that great right-wing conspiracy. When "Fix Noose" gets cornered with its bold or subtle lies, the jester defense begins with references to "entertainment" or "opinion" and turning-the-table accusations.........the jerkoffs that are its fans hiss with indignation and defiance like a drug dealer denying two kilos of coke in his car are his! Always and as if decent people are stupid and oblivious to the cheat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2smart4u Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 When "Fix Noose" gets cornered with its bold or subtle lies, the jester defense begins with references to "entertainment" or "opinion" and turning-the-table accusations.........the jerkoffs that are its fans hiss with indignation and defiance like a drug dealer denying two kilos of coke in his car are his! Always and as if decent people are stupid and oblivious to the cheat. I hate to rub it in, but I will. FOX (in ALL time slots) blows away the other networks. Fox has more viewers than MSNBC, CNN, CNBC put together, by far. Fox is gaining on network news such as GMA and will pass it soon. Is it any wonder the Anointed One has tried (and failed) to exclude FOX from the pool in interviewing the Pay Czar, FOX is the only one that will ask hard questions. Have you ever wondered why good 'ol Charlie Gibson denied knowing anything about the ACORN criminal organization days after FOX broke the story? Have you ever wondered why the other networks and the Slimes ignored the story until it got so big they were forced to mention it? These are the reasons intelligent people are turning to FOX for their news, it hasn't been filtered through the far left propaganda machine. Loonies like you will continue to rant and rave but you're a dying breed, the numbers prove it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manscape Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 I hate to rub it in, but I will. FOX (in ALL time slots) blows away the other networks. Fox has more viewers than MSNBC, CNN, CNBC put together, by far.Fox is gaining on network news such as GMA and will pass it soon. Is it any wonder the Anointed One has tried (and failed) to exclude FOX from the pool in interviewing the Pay Czar, FOX is the only one that will ask hard questions. Have you ever wondered why good 'ol Charlie Gibson denied knowing anything about the ACORN criminal organization days after FOX broke the story? Have you ever wondered why the other networks and the Slimes ignored the story until it got so big they were forced to mention it? These are the reasons intelligent people are turning to FOX for their news, it hasn't been filtered through the far left propaganda machine. Loonies like you will continue to rant and rave but you're a dying breed, the numbers prove it. Like the Fix Noose freak show you adore, Tumor4u, a cheap guile is your choice of communication. While you chortle over the ratings of a dishonest media spectacle......people with brains AND priority pause upon this: >>>Only 20 percent of adults identify themselves as Republicans, little changed in recent months, but still the lowest single number in Post-ABC polls since 1983. Political independents continue to make up the largest group, at 42 percent of respondents; 33 percent call themselves Democrats.<<< Find the above quote on page #2 of the following link....and much more that endorse our NEW (yes, he's still new) president. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...ml?hpid=topnews Then those in denial can go take a peep at this.....and deny: http://www.gallup.com/poll/118528/gop-loss...hic-groups.aspx http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics...ep_trouble.html <~ less than perfect annunciation, devastating analysis........"if you're a republican, those numbers are HIDIOUS........."Now.......run along and put the little flight suit on your Bill-O action figure, Tumor!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Like the Fix Noose freak show you adore, Tumor4u, a cheap guile is your choice of communication. While you chortle over the ratings of a dishonest media spectacle......people with brains AND priority pause upon this:>>>Only 20 percent of adults identify themselves as Republicans, little changed in recent months, but still the lowest single number in Post-ABC polls since 1983. Political independents continue to make up the largest group, at 42 percent of respondents; 33 percent call themselves Democrats.<<< Find the above quote on page #2 of the following link....and much more that endorse our NEW (yes, he's still new) president. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...ml?hpid=topnews Then those in denial can go take a peep at this.....and deny: http://www.gallup.com/poll/118528/gop-loss...hic-groups.aspx ttp://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics...ep_trouble.html Don't get to giddy, consider the following. Fox News Poll, Oct 22: 43 % of voters would vote to re-elect Obama if the 2012 election was held today, that's down from 52% in a poll taken 6 months ago on Apr. 22. Want to venture a guess what it will be in another 6 months? Your boy is a one-hit wonder. <~ less than perfect annunciation, devastating analysis........"if you're a republican, those numbers are HIDIOUS........."Now.......run along and put the little flight suit on your Bill-O action figure, Tumor!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manscape Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 >>>Don't get to giddy, consider the following. Fox News Poll, Oct 22: 43 % of voters would vote to re-elect Obama if the 2012 election was held today, that's down from 52% in a poll taken 6 months ago on Apr. 22. Want to venture a guess what it will be in another 6 months? Your boy is a one-hit wonder.<<< Well, Guesty.......you nuzzle up to your "Fix Noose" crystal ball and your flaccid political party of fear and war and hate. Meanwhile, the new progressive leadership of America will see that President Obama has the support he needs to repair the epic damage you and your goombas wrought upon the nation and the world. Start googling bloodpressure meds, deadender.......your hate-parade will be expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manscape Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Obama tried to manipulate the press into isolating FOX and not allowing FOX to participate in a scheduled interview with the Pay Czar. Obama told CNN and MSNBC that he wanted to exclude FOX from the Pay Czar interview and he wanted CNN and MSNBC to support the idea.To CNN and MSNBC's credit, they both told Obama they would not support the idea and if FOX wasn't included then no one would participate. Apparently, the concept of a free press is foreign to the annointed one. Before swallowing the fetid assertions of a GOP deadender, consider our media and past presidential administrations: White House is right to push back By MARK PENN | 10/27/09 5:15 AM EDT Republicans suggest that the aggressive move by the Obama White House to take on people and organizations that disagree with it and oppose its policies is an unprecedented abuse of government resources. This is, of course, nonsense. The Obama team is engaged in a series of tough legislative and press battles and is stepping up its game, not stepping over the line. And the actions taken by the White House are mild and pale compared with those of the Gingrich and Bush years. Let’s look at the Republican record on this. This White House may be trying to sideline all lobbyists from K Street, but it was the Republicans who invented the K Street Project — steering contracts and business to the lobbyists from their own party while seeking to cut out the Democrats. This White House has a principle it is applying across the board, agree with it or not. The Republicans were enforcing the principle or rewarding their own. President George W. Bush had plenty of groups he did not meet with or spurned, often changing his mind only after negative public reaction built up. Remember him declining year after year the chance to speak to the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People — an organization that hosted every president since Herbert Hoover? Only in 2006 did he reverse course. Activist Cindy Sheehan became famous for following Bush to his ranch, asking for a meeting and a hearing. Bush also declined to meet with a bipartisan committee working to rewrite the education bill and, despite repeated requests, refused all but once to meet with the Congressional Black Caucus. Bush even declined to meet with Nelson Mandela in 2003 because the former South African political prisoner opposed the Iraq war. As House speaker, Newt Gingrich would not meet with the National Endowment for the Arts, calling it a group based on patronage and elitism. So when it comes to declining meetings with groups you disagree with, Bush and Gingrich set the standard — not this White House. Second, the administration’s back and forth about Fox News is nothing new. Now I don’t think that getting into the tussle with Fox News makes great strategic sense, but it certainly isn’t original — the Republicans have been blasting the “liberal” media for decades. Even former President Dwight D. Eisenhower at the 1964 Republican National Convention in San Francisco called out “sensation-seeking columnists and commentators,” and the crowd burst into jeers and catcalls at the reporters there. The sentiment was immortalized by Richard Nixon’s Vice President Spiro Agnew, who memorably charged that many in the press corps were mere “nattering nabobs of negativism” — and for good measure — “an effete corps of impudent snobs.” And Republicans have certainly taken on specific media, as well. Newt Gingrich, in one of his radio addresses as speaker, said it was time to zero out the funding for public broadcasting, which he saw as carrying a liberal agenda. Gingrich, Senate Majority Leader Bob Dole (R-Kan.) and Bush all at one point blamed the “liberal, elite media” as at the root of their problems, with famous battles against Connie Chung, Dan Rather and others. At the time, the Republicans called CNN the Clinton News Network. If a Democratic administration ostracized Fox News, it was mild compared with the Republican attempt headed by New York Rep. Peter King to institute a criminal investigation by the attorney general into The New York Times for its coverage of the Iraq war — a charge he made on “The O’Reilly Factor,” of course. And Ed Gillespie, working for the Bush White House, essentially made the same charge against MSNBC that David Axelrod and Anita Dunn made about Fox News. Gillespie said in essence that the reporters and hosts of MSNBC have a point of view that comes through in what they do. Even the John McCain presidential campaign tried to get NBC off of presidential debate panels and would not allow columnists such as Maureen Dowd and Joe Klein on its planes. McCain strategist Steve Schmidt also called MSNBC “a partisan advocacy organization that exists for the purpose of attacking John McCain.” Newsweek found its access threatened after one of its cover stories. So regarding the idea that the White House is going over the top — well, the crocodile tears from the Republicans on this issue are just too much. I always say there is a campaign that is about the real issues and a campaign about the campaign — the discussion of the polls, who is positive and who has been negative. This debate during the last week has fallen into the latter — it has not been about health care, the stimulus or the deficit. The debate has been about whether the White House has lashed out at its critics and the Republican talkers have appeared earnest in making their case, counting on a rather short public memory for their actions. But in this case, you have to separate the spin from the reality. The Republicans dithered on meeting and including Democratic-leaning groups and made it a big part of their agenda to attack the “liberal” media. Giving everyone a seat at the table doesn’t mean giving everyone a seat to sit there and attack the White House. And if anyone should and can appreciate that point, it is those very Republicans on television now complaining about it. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/28739.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2smart4u Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 >>>Don't get to giddy, consider the following. Fox News Poll, Oct 22: 43 % of voters would vote to re-elect Obama if the 2012 election was held today,that's down from 52% in a poll taken 6 months ago on Apr. 22. Want to venture a guess what it will be in another 6 months? Your boy is a one-hit wonder.<<< Well, Guesty.......you nuzzle up to your "Fix Noose" crystal ball and your flaccid political party of fear and war and hate. Meanwhile, the new progressive leadership of America will see that President Obama has the support he needs to repair the epic damage you and your goombas wrought upon the nation and the world. Start googling bloodpressure meds, deadender.......your hate-parade will be expensive. 3 years and counting. I can't wait to see the community organizer going home to Chi-town with Wright, Aires and ACORN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SMKat Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 3 years and counting. I can't wait to see the community organizer going home to Chi-town with Wright, Aires and ACORN. Who are the Republicans going to pick to run against him? Palin? Ah....if only wishes came true! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2smart4u Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Who are the Republicans going to pick to run against him? Palin? Ah....if only wishes came true! To soon for that, my guess might be Pawenty, Jindal or Huckabee. However, Obama is beginning to look more and more like a no-balls kind of guy, he has a hard time making decisions (like his mostly "present" votes in the Senate). Cash for clunkers was reported today to have cost american taxpayers $24,000. per clunker and it was largely a failure ( that's the same kind of government "efficiency" he's bringing to the ObamaCare Bill). Unemployment is still over 10% in many areas, the interest on our debt is running millions a day and growing, the mess in Afghanistan is growing and his far left base wants him to throw in the towel, which will be political suicide. So many of his campaign promises have been shown to be outright deceptions, he credibility is badly damaged. Unless he can somehow miraculously turn all this around, he's out of there. And if you're honest with yourself you'll agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Keith Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 To soon for that, my guess might be Pawenty, Jindal or Huckabee. However, Obama is beginning to look more and more like a no-balls kind of guy, he has a hard time making decisions (like his mostly "present" votes in the Senate). Cash for clunkers was reported today to have cost american taxpayers $24,000. per clunker and it was largely a failure ( that's the same kind of government "efficiency" he's bringing to the ObamaCare Bill). Unemployment is still over 10% in many areas, the interest on our debt is running millions a day and growing, the mess in Afghanistan is growing and his far left base wants him to throw in the towel, which will be political suicide. So many of his campaign promises have been shown to be outright deceptions, he credibility is badly damaged. Unless he can somehow miraculously turn all this around, he's out of there. And if you're honest with yourself you'll agree. Hmmm. All that and he is still a better president than Bush every thought about being. Where do you think unemployment would be had he done nothing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 To soon for that, my guess might be Pawenty, Jindal or Huckabee. However, Obama is beginning to look more and more like a no-balls kind of guy, he has a hard time making decisions (like his mostly "present" votes in the Senate). Cash for clunkers was reported today to have cost american taxpayers $24,000. per clunker and it was largely a failure ( that's the same kind of government "efficiency" he's bringing to the ObamaCare Bill). Unemployment is still over 10% in many areas, the interest on our debt is running millions a day and growing, the mess in Afghanistan is growing and his far left base wants him to throw in the towel, which will be political suicide. So many of his campaign promises have been shown to be outright deceptions, he credibility is badly damaged. Unless he can somehow miraculously turn all this around, he's out of there. And if you're honest with yourself you'll agree. No, if you're honest with yourself, which you never are, you will agree: - that Obama inherited a colossal mess created largely by Bush and also many others before him, over several decades; - that without Obama's economic package, we would be in a full-blown depression, with national unemployment rates of 20% or more, instead of a recovery with 3.5% growth in the GDP this quarter; - that if we do not fix our health care system, we will continue to bleed hundreds of billions of dollars to the insurance companies every year for doing nothing except denying us medical care when we need it (the Republicans want this to continue); - that if we do not make an intelligent choice in Afghanistan, we could end up making a disastrous choice, like Bush did in Iraq; - that if we do not invest in our infrastructure, including a modern energy grid, our economy will not be able to compete in the world; - that if we do not develop renewable energy sources, we will continue to bleed hundreds of billions of dollars every years to foreign countries and oil companies; - that the only way for the United States to become fiscally sound is to make these investments, which we have been putting off for decades; it costs money now but it must be done. You Republicans had your chance and you nearly destroyed this country. Obama has a monumental job to do and he is doing it. Given your history, "President Giuliani," you are in no position to criticize him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SmKat Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 To soon for that, my guess might be Pawenty, Jindal or Huckabee. However, Obama is beginning to look more and more like a no-balls kind of guy, he has a hard time making decisions (like his mostly "present" votes in the Senate). Cash for clunkers was reported today to have cost american taxpayers $24,000. per clunker and it was largely a failure ( that's the same kind of government "efficiency" he's bringing to the ObamaCare Bill). Unemployment is still over 10% in many areas, the interest on our debt is running millions a day and growing, the mess in Afghanistan is growing and his far left base wants him to throw in the towel, which will be political suicide. So many of his campaign promises have been shown to be outright deceptions, he credibility is badly damaged. Unless he can somehow miraculously turn all this around, he's out of there. And if you're honest with yourself you'll agree. I wouldn't call Cash for Clunkers a failure. All of the major automakers reported huge increases in sales as a result of the program which is why they haven't asked for any more bailout money - which would have cost taxpayers even more. People need to stop blaming Obama (or any other President, Governor, etc.) for unemployment. It's not their fault. It's a natural part of the economic cycle. And the unemployment numbers are, in large part, stabilizing. Yes, people are still out of work but fewer companies are resorting to layoffs at this point. It will take a long time for unemployment to get back to normal levels. If McCain had won, it would be the same story. He wouldn't be able to speed it up either. I agree that "throwing in the towel" in Afghanistan would be a bad move. But we should really start asking ourselves if we are truly benefiting from continuing to be in the middle of a civil war in a country that is still obviously run by corrupt officials who don't seem to care about the status quo. The fact is that the United States needs to stop trying to democratize the entire world. Some countries and people simply don't want it. We should be going after the people and regimes that are financing these upstarts. Identify where the money is coming from and stop the flow. That will change the course of the war and will also cripple those who want to destroy us. Am I completely satisfied with Obama? Not at all. However, I am willing to give him the time he needs to try to do the right things. Some people just want him to fail. They are praying and hoping for it. That's un-American. And it's disgusting. He is the President of the United States. What does anyone who lives here have to gain if he fails? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Hmmm. All that and he is still a better president than Bush every thought about being. Where do you think unemployment would be had he done nothing? That's it? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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