More ACLU lowlights

[Guest 2smart4u]

The following is a quote from a Yale Law Professor; "The ACLU has done more than it's fair share of valuable work over the years, but

it is also saddled with an inborn and overwhelming streak of sheer idiocy, an utter lack of faith in the common sense of the American people,

and a bewildering inability (or more likely, unwillingness) to comprehend the basic decency and virtue of the American nation".

Wow ! I hope this professor has tenure. The effete leftists at Yale won't like a conservative professor speaking the truth.

[WilliamK]

The following is a quote from a Yale Law Professor; "The ACLU has done more than it's fair share of valuable work over the years, but

it is also saddled with an inborn and overwhelming streak of sheer idiocy, an utter lack of faith in the common sense of the American people,

and a bewildering inability (or more likely, unwillingness) to comprehend the basic decency and virtue of the American nation".

Wow ! I hope this professor has tenure. The effete leftists at Yale won't like a conservative professor speaking the truth.

Coming from a "Yale Law Professor", it seems a bit odd that the quote makes no substantive statements of any kind. It mentions not a single action of the ACLU that he finds objectionable, but is only engaging in a generalized and emotional bashing. No information content whatsoever, and not the slightest hint of reasoned argument. Could that be why this particular quote appealed to you so much that you felt compelled to share it?

I suspect that this professor (granting you the benefit of the doubt by assuming that he actually exists and that he is what you claim he is) would have had more substantive things to say in support of those remarks in the context from which you pulled that quote. But far be it from you to be drawn to anything that might contain, or demand, actual thought.

[Guest TheoryCat]

The following is a quote from a Yale Law Professor; "The ACLU has done more than it's fair share of valuable work over the years, but

it is also saddled with an inborn and overwhelming streak of sheer idiocy, an utter lack of faith in the common sense of the American people,

and a bewildering inability (or more likely, unwillingness) to comprehend the basic decency and virtue of the American nation".

Wow ! I hope this professor has tenure. The effete leftists at Yale won't like a conservative professor speaking the truth.

Odd-a Google search turned up nothing. I suppose you can source this?

Sweetie, let me let you in on a secret-most thinking people don't fully agree with the stereotypical Right or Left. You do because your every thought has been told to you by your neocon masters. Even if the theoretical professor said that, it doesn't make him a conservative.

[Guest Guest]

The following is a quote from a Yale Law Professor; "The ACLU has done more than it's fair share of valuable work over the years, but

it is also saddled with an inborn and overwhelming streak of sheer idiocy, an utter lack of faith in the common sense of the American people,

and a bewildering inability (or more likely, unwillingness) to comprehend the basic decency and virtue of the American nation".

Wow ! I hope this professor has tenure. The effete leftists at Yale won't like a conservative professor speaking the truth.

Dumbo,

"Truth" isn't defined as "whatever 2stupid4words agrees with."

Yale is a top-grade educational institution. They hire faculty members from all segments of the political spectrum. Some of them are radically conservative. An intelligent person opening this dialogue would have:

1. Given the professor's name;

2. Cited his or her remarks, which are surely available online if any Yale Law Professor actually said that;

3. Given some context so we could know what he was actually talking about.

Then an intelligent and useful discussing might be possible.

But of course 2stupid4words wouldn't do that, because he's not interested in or capable of an intelligent discussion. For him once someone bashes the ACLU, that person becomes a hero, no matter what they were thinking or referring to, if anything.

It wouldn't matter, except that idiots like 2stupid4words are allowed to vote and reproduce.

[Guest Keith]

The following is a quote from a Yale Law Professor; "The ACLU has done more than it's fair share of valuable work over the years, but

it is also saddled with an inborn and overwhelming streak of sheer idiocy, an utter lack of faith in the common sense of the American people,

and a bewildering inability (or more likely, unwillingness) to comprehend the basic decency and virtue of the American nation".

Wow ! I hope this professor has tenure. The effete leftists at Yale won't like a conservative professor speaking the truth.

Wow! Interesting. That quote could also be appropriately applied to the Bush administration could it not?

[Manscape]

...... the basic decency and virtue of the American nation".

What is the name of this professor from Yale who's quote you float in this forum, hmmmmm?

Does your professor think WATER BOARDING is part of........" the basic decency and virtue of the American nation"?

Here is the American Civil Liberties Union's webpage of water boarding articles:

http://www.aclu.org/search/search_wrap.htm...15&page=110

And here is the YOUTUBE video via the "Vanity Fair" project subjecting Christopher Hitchens to water boarding:

I don't always agree with everything the ACLU concludes but considering the famous Presidential Monkus Disastrous quote:

"I told all four that there are going to be some times where we don't agree with each other, but that's OK. If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator"....................

Thank your lucky stars the ACLU presence has NOT made it "a heck of a lot easier" for Monkey boy and his sick cult to unleash their lunacy.

[Manscape]

The following ACLU report comes TWO YEARS since the request for the Iraqnam war information under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) was made!! Wow. That's some government footdrag! I recall a hallmark of the Rudy Guilliani regime in NYC was that he complied with the rightful, legal disclosure of files to his colleagues in city government.........after they had to sue him in COURT for the damn things!! Rudy knew it would take even YEARS for his compliance to be forced, which was just as good as NON-COMPLIANCE to insulate and expand his little dictatorship.

http://www.aclu.org/natsec/foia/35878prs20080702.html

ACLU Releases Navy Files On Civilian Casualties In Iraq War (7/2/2008)

Public Has A Right To Unfiltered Information About The Human Cost Of War, ACLU Says

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

CONTACT: (212) 549-2666; media@aclu.org

NEW YORK – The American Civil Liberties Union today released thousands of pages of documents related to Navy investigations of civilians killed by Coalition Forces in Iraq, including the cousin of the Iraqi ambassador to the United States. Released today in response to a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request by the ACLU filed in June 2006, these records provide a vivid snapshot of the circumstances surrounding civilian deaths in Iraq.

"At every step of the way, the Bush administration and Defense Department have gone to unprecedented lengths to control and suppress information about the human cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan," said Nasrina Bargzie, an attorney with the ACLU National Security Project. "Our democracy depends on an informed public and that is why it is so important that the American people see these documents. These documents will help to fill the information void around the issue of civilian casualties in Iraq and will lead to a more complete understanding of the prosecution of the war."

The ACLU obtained documents from eight Naval Criminal Investigative Service (NCIS) investigations. One of the files documents the investigation of the death of Mohammed al-Sumaidaie, a cousin of the Iraqi ambassador to the U.S, Samir al-Sumaidaie. In 2006, the ambassador accused Marines of "intentionally" killing his cousin and today's records shed light on al-Sumaidaie's NCIS investigation for the first time. Among the findings uncovered in this file are conflicting accounts of events, questions of credibility, possible command influence issues and cover-ups.

"As these files remind us, many charges of war crimes in Iraq have not seen the light of day," said Michael Pheneger, a retired Army intelligence colonel who is also a board member of the ACLU. "There are many discoveries here that should bring pause to any American who cares about this country and hopes to restore the United States' respected role in the world. It is time to bring the facts about this war into the sunlight and end practices that go against our laws and national values."

Through its FOIA project, the ACLU has made public information on Defense Department policies designed to control information about the human costs of war. These practices include:

• Banning photographers on U.S. military bases from covering the arrival of caskets containing the remains of U.S. soldiers killed overseas;

• Paying Iraqi journalists to write positive accounts of the U.S. war effort;

• Inviting U.S. journalists to "embed" with military units but requiring them to submit their stories for pre-publication review;

• Erasing journalists' footage of civilian deaths in Afghanistan; and

• Refusing to disclose statistics on civilian casualties.

Today's documents are available online at: www.aclu.org/natsec/foia/NCIS_log.html

Attorneys involved in this project are Bargzie, Ben Wizner and Jameel Jaffer of the ACLU National Security Project. In a separate lawsuit, the ACLU sued for records concerning the abuse of prisoners held by U.S. forces in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Guantánamo Bay. To date, that request has resulted in the release of more than 100,000 pages, all of which are available online at: www.aclu.org/torturefoia

[Guest Guest]

The following is a quote from a Yale Law Professor; "The ACLU has done more than it's fair share of valuable work over the years, but

it is also saddled with an inborn and overwhelming streak of sheer idiocy, an utter lack of faith in the common sense of the American people,

and a bewildering inability (or more likely, unwillingness) to comprehend the basic decency and virtue of the American nation".

Wow ! I hope this professor has tenure. The effete leftists at Yale won't like a conservative professor speaking the truth.

lol, Google shows no results for this quote. You're not a very good liar.

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22saddled+...-8&oe=utf-8