Guest Obama for a better America Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Just watch it. This man is a born leader. This speech will be in history textbooks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Just watch it. This man is a born leader. This speech will be in history textbooks. ... where they need an example of failed political maneuvering. Obama dodged the real issue with the speech and the Obamaniacs in the press ate it up. But, though they do what they can, the press doesn't have absolute power to elect presidents. Where Obama should have explained why he was in that church for 20 years under Wright, he just made a race-based excuse for Wright instead. That will work with people who just wanted Obama to give them further excuse to believe in him. Objectively, however, it simply agrees with the picture of Obama as political opportunist (went to the church to get political capital, disowned its teachings when the church became a liability instead of an aid). If Obama is an agent of change regarding race then why did his church not change appreciably regarding race in 20 years? That's the important question about the Wright affair, and it's a question that Obama dodged with his speech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Time Magazine has the appropriate antidote for the folks who have gone off the deep end regarding Obama's race speech. The speech he delivered at the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia was an artfully reasoned treatise on race and rancor in America, the most memorable speech delivered by any candidate in this campaign and one that has earned Obama comparisons to Lincoln, Kennedy and King. But that doesn't mean it will succeed in its more prosaic mission of appealing to voters who have their doubts about Obama and his preacher. It left unanswered a crucial question: What attracted Obama to Wright in the first place? http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/...1723990,00.html The story also goes into the background of the speech somewhat, though perhaps without adequately emphasizing how the political landscape forced the speech in a way dramatically different from the speeches to which it was compared Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Just watch it. This man is a born leader. This speech will be in history textbooks. I saw an interview where he claimed he'd condemned Wright's views. WHEN? HOW? If it was only to continue his campaign it's not very meaningful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest new guest Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Just watch it. This man is a born leader. This speech will be in history textbooks. yea watch this then tell me that http:www.usawakeup.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Studies and Observations Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Lets see... Jeremiah Wright.. BAD hit for the man who wants to bring "Unity", Friendship with William Ayers..a Man who is an Admitted Domestic Terrorist (Google "Weather Underground) and who planted explosive devices at the US Capitol Building, Pentagon, and New York City's Headquarters, and Tony Rezco..under indictment for Numerous federal crimes. All in all March hasnt been a good Month for Mr Obama. So much for his "Mr Clean" Image huh???. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 Lets see... Jeremiah Wright.. BAD hit for the man who wants to bring "Unity", Wright is like a member of Obama's family--and who here doesn't have a family member or two who says wacky things you don't agree with, but that you care for anyway? Friendship with William Ayers..a Man who is an Admitted Domestic Terrorist (Google "Weather Underground) and who planted explosive devices at the US Capitol Building, Pentagon, and New York City's Headquarters, "...the Obama-Ayers link is a tenuous one. As Newsday pointed out, Clinton has her own, also tenuous, Weatherman connection. Her husband commuted the sentences of a couple of convicted Weather Underground members, Susan Rosenberg and Linda Sue Evans, shortly before leaving office in January 2001. Which is worse: pardoning a convicted terrorist or accepting a campaign contribution from a former Weatherman who was never convicted? Whatever his past, Ayers is now a respected member of the Chicago intelligentsia, and still a member of the Woods Fund Board. The president of the Woods Fund, Deborah Harrington, said he had been selected for the board because of his solid academic credentials and ‘passion for social justice.’ ‘This whole connection is a stretch,’ Harrington told me. ‘Barack was very well known in Chicago, and a highly respected legislator. It would be difficult to find people round here who never volunteered or contributed money to one of his campaigns.’”" --http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/02/22/william-ayers-bogus-connection-to-barack-obama/ and Tony Rezco..under indictment for Numerous federal crimes. That's a nonsense 'connection' and you know it. You're acting like Obama was helping him commit crimes. All in all March hasnt been a good Month for Mr Obama. So much for his "Mr Clean" Image huh???. No, he's still got it. Your nonsense won't fly anymore. Obama is our next President. The sooner you accept that, the sooner progress will be made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 Wright is like a member of Obama's family--and who here doesn't have a family member or two who says wacky things you don't agree with, but that you care for anyway? And who here doesn't make a spiritual mentor out of their family member who says wacky things they don't agree with? Oh, wait ... ...the Obama-Ayers link is a tenuous one. As Newsday pointed out, Clinton has her own, also tenuous, Weatherman connection. Her husband commuted the sentences of a couple of convicted Weather Underground members, Susan Rosenberg and Linda Sue Evans, shortly before leaving office in January 2001. Which is worse: pardoning a convicted terrorist or accepting a campaign contribution from a former Weatherman who was never convicted? Whatever his past, Ayers is now a respected member of the Chicago intelligentsia, and still a member of the Woods Fund Board. The president of the Woods Fund, Deborah Harrington, said he had been selected for the board because of his solid academic credentials and "passion for social justice." "This whole connection is a stretch," Harrington told me. "Barack was very well known in Chicago, and a highly respected legislator. It would be difficult to find people round here who never volunteered or contributed money to one of his campaigns." --http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/02/22/william-ayers-bogus-connection-to-barack-obama/ Visit the primary source and note that the Ayers-Obama connection remains an open issue with the WaPo fact-checkers. http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checke...connection.html That's a nonsense 'connection' and you know it. You're acting like Obama was helping him commit crimes. Even Obama admits that the real estate deal looks bad. Obama called it "stupid." The facts of that case make it appear that a senate inquiry might be a good idea. Obama's interactions with Rezko as Rezko worked to secure illegal profits make it look like Rezko got something from Obama in return for the help with the house. If you don't find that plausible you're in denial. No, he's still got it. Your nonsense won't fly anymore. Obama is our next President. The sooner you accept that, the sooner progress will be made. "Guest" is evidently a true believer. O-ba-ma. O-ba-ma. Join the chant, everyone. Let your concerns about Obama drift away ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 Wright is like a member of Obama's family--and who here doesn't have a family member or two who says wacky things you don't agree with, but that you care for anyway? Actually, he is not a member of Obama's family.... Obama said he is "like" a member of my family. So he could have very easily thrown that racist wind bad to the wind.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 22, 2008 Report Share Posted March 22, 2008 Actually, he is not a member of Obama's family.... Obama said he is "like" a member of my family. So he could have very easily thrown that racist wind bad to the wind.... Yes, he could have done that. The fact that he will strongly disagree with the offending statements while refusing to disown the man from his life speaks to his character. Also, all we see are those statements. Surely Obama knows the guy better than we do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Studies and Observations Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Wright is like a member of Obama's family--and who here doesn't have a family member or two who says wacky things you don't agree with, but that you care for anyway?"...the Obama-Ayers link is a tenuous one. As Newsday pointed out, Clinton has her own, also tenuous, Weatherman connection. Her husband commuted the sentences of a couple of convicted Weather Underground members, Susan Rosenberg and Linda Sue Evans, shortly before leaving office in January 2001. Which is worse: pardoning a convicted terrorist or accepting a campaign contribution from a former Weatherman who was never convicted? Whatever his past, Ayers is now a respected member of the Chicago intelligentsia, and still a member of the Woods Fund Board. The president of the Woods Fund, Deborah Harrington, said he had been selected for the board because of his solid academic credentials and ‘passion for social justice.’ ‘This whole connection is a stretch,’ Harrington told me. ‘Barack was very well known in Chicago, and a highly respected legislator. It would be difficult to find people round here who never volunteered or contributed money to one of his campaigns.’”" --http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/02/22/william-ayers-bogus-connection-to-barack-obama/ That's a nonsense 'connection' and you know it. You're acting like Obama was helping him commit crimes. No, he's still got it. Your nonsense won't fly anymore. Obama is our next President. The sooner you accept that, the sooner progress will be made. His staffers told him a YEAR ago that this would be a problem, and he ignored it..Luckily for Obama, this Manning Character on Clinton's side is JUST as effed-up and pretty much makes Actually the Ayers Connection is one he and his campaign have made themselves...and "Accepted Member of the Chicago Intelligentsia" doesnt make him any less of a murderous Scumbag..HE PLANTED EXPLOSIVES INTENDED TO KILL POLICE, Military Personnell, and Police, Comgressmen, and Staffers, in 1 Police Plaza, The Pentagon, and The US Capitol, respectively. He SHOULD have been executed, but the Left as usual treats him like a Hero ...what part of that is something to be dismissed Lightly. Clinton is JUST as bad..HER husband Pardoned FALN Murderers of Police Officers..just to get her the Puerto Rican Vote from NYC for her senate race...BOTH of the democrat Candidates have Ties to Domestic Terrorists (and yes since Puerto Rico IS Still a US territory FALN Qualifies as "Domestic") I'd bet that if Obama DID win the Presidency there would be a Full Pardon fortcoming for Ayers...Hell maybe a Ticker-tape parade for the return and Pardon of Joanne Chesimard as well!!!!!. Obama may not have participated in Rezco's crimes, but he was close enough to accept over $250,000 from Rezco for his various campaigns, nevermind the whole Real-estate issue. The Funny thing is that when he DOES tank people like YOU wont accept that he lost because of issues like this...you will be the first to trot out the tired old "America is Racist" line, or, more likely with this crowd, "The Evil Republicans Stole another one" crap. WHat i find utterly laughable is that ANY republican candidate with ties like this would be excoriated by you...yet you all line up to defend him instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 His staffers told him a YEAR ago that this would be a problem, and he ignored it..Luckily for Obama, this Manning Character on Clinton's side is JUST as effed-up and pretty much makesActually the Ayers Connection is one he and his campaign have made themselves...and "Accepted Member of the Chicago Intelligentsia" doesnt make him any less of a murderous Scumbag..HE PLANTED EXPLOSIVES INTENDED TO KILL POLICE, Military Personnell, and Police, Comgressmen, and Staffers, in 1 Police Plaza, The Pentagon, and The US Capitol, respectively. He SHOULD have been executed, but the Left as usual treats him like a Hero ...what part of that is something to be dismissed Lightly. Clinton is JUST as bad..HER husband Pardoned FALN Murderers of Police Officers..just to get her the Puerto Rican Vote from NYC for her senate race...BOTH of the democrat Candidates have Ties to Domestic Terrorists (and yes since Puerto Rico IS Still a US territory FALN Qualifies as "Domestic") I'd bet that if Obama DID win the Presidency there would be a Full Pardon fortcoming for Ayers...Hell maybe a Ticker-tape parade for the return and Pardon of Joanne Chesimard as well!!!!!. Obama may not have participated in Rezco's crimes, but he was close enough to accept over $250,000 from Rezco for his various campaigns, nevermind the whole Real-estate issue. The Funny thing is that when he DOES tank people like YOU wont accept that he lost because of issues like this...you will be the first to trot out the tired old "America is Racist" line, or, more likely with this crowd, "The Evil Republicans Stole another one" crap. WHat i find utterly laughable is that ANY republican candidate with ties like this would be excoriated by you...yet you all line up to defend him instead. lol, keep grasping for straws. McCain doesn't have a prayer; get used to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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