Guest Kearny Citizen Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 Racist? I think not. How many out-of-towners who work in Kearny live in Newark, Camden, or a other primarily African American communities? It's hard to think of one so don't strain your brain. It's more likely they either moved to primarily white communities down the Jersey Shore and elsewhere or never lived in Kearny from day one. The example of working and living in Manhattan is without merit. If it cost the same prices to live in Kearny as Manhattan there might be some validity but it's not remotely the same situation. It's rediculous to present that Teachers and Firefighters cannot afford to live in Kearny. Living in the community you work in gives employees more of a stake in the overall outcome of their efforts. The Teachers and Firefighters should stop crying about money for once and consider the high taxes and rent the residents are already paying. Very SELFISH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kearny Citizen Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 "MOST" of Kearnys Teachers and Firefighters live in Kearny? Really? Why don't you back that statement up with facts? Give the residents a breakdown of how many Teachers and Firefighters live in Kearny. Also, a percentage of the total. Now that I have asked for the info. supporting your statement you will back down. You will NEVER answer the question. Maybe EVERY Firefighter and Teacher lives in Kearny. Lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kearny Citizen Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 Let's explore the issue of racial inequality with the Teachers and Firefighters. The Kearny Fire Dept. consists of roughly 90% white males. The lack of diversity is shocking and discrimination against African Americans and females is remarkable. How the heck does the KFD keep these people out? I guess the part-time extreme high salaried Firefighter jobs and strictly for neopistism and patronage appointment. The Teachers are in a similar situation. Are minorities being recruited? When the NAACP files their lawsuit the taxpayers will pay a hefty price for this divisive state of affairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Mayor Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 Treated like crap? You mean receiving three annual reviews over the course of ten months. Not being able to take a crap when you want to, or have to? When you say treated like crap are you talking being forced to teach in over crowded classrooms? Or maybe your referring to the five hours, on average, a teacher spend on the weekend grading papers or writing lesson plans? No......that can't be it. Your a teacher so your expected to show up to work with a smile and be kind. Insulting indeed! I have many friends who teach so I am well aware of what actually takes [lace in schools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 Racist? I think not. How many out-of-towners who work in Kearny live in Newark, Camden, or a other primarily African American communities? It's hard to think of one so don't strain your brain. It's more likely they either moved to primarily white communities down the Jersey Shore and elsewhere or never lived in Kearny from day one. The example of working and living in Manhattan is without merit. If it cost the same prices to live in Kearny as Manhattan there might be some validity but it's not remotely the same situation. It's rediculous to present that Teachers and Firefighters cannot afford to live in Kearny. Living in the community you work in gives employees more of a stake in the overall outcome of their efforts. The Teachers and Firefighters should stop crying about money for once and consider the high taxes and rent the residents are already paying. Very SELFISH! MORON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 Racist? I think not. How many out-of-towners who work in Kearny live in Newark, Camden, or a other primarily African American communities? It's hard to think of one so don't strain your brain. It's more likely they either moved to primarily white communities down the Jersey Shore and elsewhere or never lived in Kearny from day one. The example of working and living in Manhattan is without merit. If it cost the same prices to live in Kearny as Manhattan there might be some validity but it's not remotely the same situation. It's rediculous to present that Teachers and Firefighters cannot afford to live in Kearny. Living in the community you work in gives employees more of a stake in the overall outcome of their efforts. The Teachers and Firefighters should stop crying about money for once and consider the high taxes and rent the residents are already paying. Very SELFISH! You sound angry........why don't you move to Newark. I hear its lovely. Then you won't have anything to complain about. Except being shot at or stabbed. I'll even help you move. Your a socialist. Next your going to tell us how many children we can have. You complaining about diversity is getting old. Maybe they don't want to live here because they don't want to be associated with ignorant and racist people. Just an idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 "MOST" of Kearnys Teachers and Firefighters live in Kearny? Really? Why don't you back that statement up with facts? Give the residents a breakdown of how many Teachers and Firefighters live in Kearny. Also, a percentage of the total. Now that I have asked for the info. supporting your statement you will back down. You will NEVER answer the question. Maybe EVERY Firefighter and Teacher lives in Kearny. Lol! If its so hard to research the facts how can you be so certain? Sounds like you just shot yourself in the foot. Your a racist and socialist. Also I said work in NYC not live. Maybe you should have listened to your reading teacher instead of worrying about where she lived. After all you did just say that the information was almost impossible to find......so.....how would you know? Oh...whats that?....that's right you don't know do you. Your speculating and stating it as fact. Shame on you....this is America not communist China you socialist. We CAN think and not just believe what we are told. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 Racist? I think not. How many out-of-towners who work in Kearny live in Newark, Camden, or a other primarily African American communities? It's hard to think of one so don't strain your brain. It's more likely they either moved to primarily white communities down the Jersey Shore and elsewhere or never lived in Kearny from day one. The example of working and living in Manhattan is without merit. If it cost the same prices to live in Kearny as Manhattan there might be some validity but it's not remotely the same situation. It's rediculous to present that Teachers and Firefighters cannot afford to live in Kearny. Living in the community you work in gives employees more of a stake in the overall outcome of their efforts. The Teachers and Firefighters should stop crying about money for once and consider the high taxes and rent the residents are already paying. Very SELFISH! First, You sound like a minority who is playing the race card for not getting into the fire academy....Second, who in the hell would commute to Kearny from Camden.......Do you even hear yourself talk. I'm starting to believe you don't even live in Kearny based on some of the stuff that is coming out of your mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KPDRETIRED Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 Let's explore the issue of racial inequality with the Teachers and Firefighters. The Kearny Fire Dept. consists of roughly 90% white males. The lack of diversity is shocking and discrimination against African Americans and females is remarkable. How the heck does the KFD keep these people out? I guess the part-time extreme high salaried Firefighter jobs and strictly for neopistism and patronage appointment. The Teachers are in a similar situation. Are minorities being recruited? When the NAACP files their lawsuit the taxpayers will pay a hefty price for this divisive state of affairs. Actually the reason Most Firefighters, Teachers and Cops move out of town is because of Jagoffs like YOU...YOU are exactly the guy I moved down the Shore to get away from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Union Member Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 The offer the teachers was offered was INSULTINGLY low .. How would you preform if you were treated like crap at work ????????????? The Board of Education will get their way with this contract because the KEA President is in bed with the Board. Look at the Family members that were given jobs by past boards that are related to this Union President. This is just window dressing I believe it is to appease the Union Membership!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Had enough Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 Boo fu**in who. Teachers make too much money. Shut up and do your job. And go back to your houses in Caldwell you asshole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Taxpayer Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 I feel the teachers are very respected by the community. I understand their wanting the best benefits. Everyone who works wants that. But, to say they can no longer sit and talk out some kind of agreement is unfair to the taxpayer. Kearny pays big money for education. The teachers and their union need to be open to other ways of gaining benefits. Come on everyone you can do better. Let's get talking again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kearny Citizen Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 The firefighters and teachers are very generous people. It's good to know that in whatever town or city they live in (Caldwell, Point Pleasant, Brick, Montville, Madison, Rumson) is a public employee paradise. These brave (white) firefighters and dedicated teachers would gladly approve a $1000 a year tax hike on THEIR bill to provide absurd raises. NO WAY! Yet, they want the Keany residents taxed into poverty. Banging the drum of "It's for the children," and "We run in burning buildings," is unimpressive and lame. Little Billy is sad because the Firefighters need more money and more sleep. Little Suzie would be happier if Ms. Crabtree had better benefits. Its laughable. Firefighters (unskilled labor) deserve mininum wage and teachers $15 an hour. The end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 The Observer said there are major stumbling blocks in both sides to reach an agreement. My question is what are they? And why are both sides waiting until Dec.10 to start talking again? The president of the union would not state what the issues are. Does the union membership know what they? Why can't the taxpayer know what the problem is? Get to the table now and start talking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 Actually the reason Most Firefighters, Teachers and Cops move out of town is because of Jagoffs like YOU...YOU are exactly the guy I moved down the Shore to get away from Well said........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Teacher Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 I am a teacher at Lincoln, and I live in Kearny, within blocks to the school, in fact, and I walk to and from work. My two classroom teacher "neighbors" in the school also live in Kearny, as do many of us. For 2 years, I lived in Passaic Park due to the high rent costs in Kearny, but parking for me was too stressful in coming and going to work. I make $52,000 before taxes. My Kearny rent for a modest 1 bedroom on a very busy and loud street in this town, with no parking or utlities, is $1125. No one should generalize that "no teachers live in Kearny". That's absolutely not true. Many of the teachers I work with were born and raised in Kearny, love this town, and have made their lives here, including sending their kids to our schools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RetiredOne Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 Boo fu**in who. Teachers make too much money. Shut up and do your job. And go back to your houses in Caldwell you asshole Pension check is due in 5 days...Pay up Sucka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Moron observer. Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 The firefighters and teachers are very generous people. It's good to know that in whatever town or city they live in (Caldwell, Point Pleasant, Brick, Montville, Madison, Rumson) is a public employee paradise. These brave (white) firefighters and dedicated teachers would gladly approve a $1000 a year tax hike on THEIR bill to provide absurd raises. NO WAY! Yet, they want the Keany residents taxed into poverty. Banging the drum of "It's for the children," and "We run in burning buildings," is unimpressive and lame. Little Billy is sad because the Firefighters need more money and more sleep. Little Suzie would be happier if Ms. Crabtree had better benefits. Its laughable. Firefighters (unskilled labor) deserve mininum wage and teachers $15 an hour. The end. Yea, I would want my children educated by a profession that draws in people at $15 an hour. Moron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kearny Citizen Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 In response to Teacher: Let me get this straight. Teachers live in Kearny and have responsibility and accountability at work. They work 5 days a week. They are charged with the awesome task of the education and safety of hundreds of children every single day. It is a gender and racially balanced profession. Their minimum job requirement is a Bachelors degree. Many have the burden of costly student loans. Teachers make $52,000 a year. Almost all Firefighters don't live in Kearny, have very little responsibility and no accountability, sleep and play at the man cave/clubhouse, "work" 2 days a week and are maual laborers. The Firefighting "job" (NOT a profession) has nearly "0" gender diversity and exremely biased racial diversity. Firefighting is a white mens welfare club. The Firefighters requirement is a G.E.D. and they make $100,000 a year. Maybe my opinion was wrong! What the hell is going on? Why are Firefighters valued TWICE as much as Teachers? Looks like the Maybe that's the comparison the Teachers should make at the next meeting with Kearny officials? Sounds compelling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PP Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 The Board of Education will get their way with this contract because the KEA President is in bed with the Board. Look at the Family members that were given jobs by past boards that are related to this Union President. This is just window dressing I believe it is to appease the Union Membership!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She also received the most monetarily during this past contract because of the way the contract was structured. Nice!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 I bet the rasie goes to the top tier........She will be fighting for that I'm sure. New teachers doing the same job will get the shaft. It's a shame. How can we attract the best teachers with a starting salary below the competition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 How about we don't go after one person and instead look at ways to settle the contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest For a strong UNION for all Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 How about we don't go after one person and instead look at ways to settle the contract? How about we get a Union President that works for the membership and not for themselves and their family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Does anyone know what the BOE is offering? Both parties need to settle this now. Our children is what everyone should be concern about. The teachers need a contract, the BOE needs to settle this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest For a strong UNION for all Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 I feel the teachers are very respected by the community. I understand their wanting the best benefits. Everyone who works wants that. But, to say they can no longer sit and talk out some kind of agreement is unfair to the taxpayer. Kearny pays big money for education. The teachers and their union need to be open to other ways of gaining benefits. Come on everyone you can do better. Let's get talking again. This is what the Teachers get when they support a board of ed that promises everything and gives nothing. Well folks it will take two elections to get rid of this board and that is highly unlikely so be happy with what you have because your union has no leverage with these members. The board will get their way with this contract and you will live with reduced benefits and paying more for less and more paying into your pensions.So teachers pull up your boot straps and go back to work and start accepting a sad outcome of losing your union leverage in gaining a fair contract that sad to say will require givebacks to the School District. MORALE WILL SUFFER AND THE KIDS WILL BE EFFECTED!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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