Latest poll on zerO

[Guest Santayana Lives]

The latest polls have zerO at 38% positive and 70% think the country is on the wrong track. The Kearny Loonies are quickly becoming an endangered species.

Ten months to go, but it appears President Obama has righted the ship and gone into positive territory in the most recent polls. I'm wondering why Patriot has not pointed this out?

Anyways, history may be repeating itself. At the start of his third year of his first term, Ronald Reagan had even more negative numbers than Barack Obama. A year later, Reagan's numbers edged positive and by election day November 1984, he won in a landslide.

Poll Date Sample Approve Disapprove

Gallup 12/21 - 12/23 1500 A 47 45 +2

CNN 12/16 - 12/18 1015 A 49 48 +1

ABC News/Wash Post

12/15 - 12/18 1005 A 49 47 +2

CBS News

12/14 - 12/18 992 A 47 44 +3

[Guest 2smart4u]

Ten months to go, but it appears President Obama has righted the ship and gone into positive territory in the most recent polls. I'm wondering why Patriot has not pointed this out?

Anyways, history may be repeating itself. At the start of his third year of his first term, Ronald Reagan had even more negative numbers than Barack Obama. A year later, Reagan's numbers edged positive and by election day November 1984, he won in a landslide.

Poll Date Sample Approve Disapprove

Gallup 12/21 - 12/23 1500 A 47 45 +2

CNN 12/16 - 12/18 1015 A 49 48 +1

ABC News/Wash Post

12/15 - 12/18 1005 A 49 47 +2

CBS News

12/14 - 12/18 992 A 47 44 +3

"Righted the ship"?? We hit the 15 trillion in debt mark on Oct. 16th. We're now at 15.2 trillion and will hit 16 trillion by June. If zerO gets reelected this country is in bankruptcy during his second term.

[Guest Guest]

"Righted the ship"?? We hit the 15 trillion in debt mark on Oct. 16th. We're now at 15.2 trillion and will hit 16 trillion by June. If zerO gets reelected this country is in bankruptcy during his second term.

Republican policies brought the economy to the brink of collapse, requiring the government to borrow far more than anyone would have liked. Blaming it on Obama, when he INHERITED the worst ECONOMIC NIGHTMARE since the Great Depression is ignorant. He hasn't been perfect but the bigger problem is the Tea Party nut-cakes in the House. If they had their way, the government would have collapsed.

Go ahead, 2stupid4words. That sounds good to you, doesn't it.

[Guest Guest]

We already knew you would have no intelligent response. You never do. You live in a simplistic world that exists only in your imagination.

Here's the truth, not that you'll understand it. Our economy has been completely transformed. It is now global. With the fall of Communism and the rise of India and China as players in the capitalist system, more than two billion people are now competing against US citizens for prime jobs. In previous times, we built the transcontinental railroad (Lincoln) and the interstate highway system (Eisenhower and others). Facing a known challenge from our dependence on oil, what did we do? Nothing. That is why we are in trouble.

You right wingers become angrier and angrier because no matter who you elect, it doesn't get better. It didn't better under Bush, it got worse. Clinton actually put us on a path to fiscal responsibility but it meant higher taxes to get there, so you got your guy in office and he nearly ruined the country. That's what Obama inherited.

To get out of it - for things to get better - we would have to invest, like we did under Lincoln and after World War II, but you knuckle-draggers keep insisting that we march back to the 18th century, which is impossible. You can't slap 18th century economics onto a 21st century economy. Countries must adapt to changing times but instead of adapting, you're trying to turn back the clock. It can't be done, and that's why you're never satisfied.

That's not a talking point, it's the truth.

As always, the knuckle-draggers have nothing intelligent to say. They didn't even try to refute this.

That's because it is true. Usually they'll come up with something stupid to say but this time they couldn't even think of anything stupid.

[Guest Proud American]

"Righted the ship"?? We hit the 15 trillion in debt mark on Oct. 16th. We're now at 15.2 trillion and will hit 16 trillion by June. If zerO gets reelected this country is in bankruptcy during his second term.

Let's review recent American history. At the end of Democrat Bill Clinton's two terms of office, the US government was running annual SURPLUSES. This was after two INCREASES in income taxes in the 1990s (Under George H.W. Bush and Clinton).

Let's review what happened 10 years later after two terms of George W. Bush --

The 2009 federal budget, which covers September 1, 2008 to August 31, 2009 and was signed by George W. Bush, contained a $1.2 trillion dollar deficit.

Yes, the deficits continued in 2009, 2010 and 2011. However, the two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan did not end on January 20, 2009 when Barack Obama became the President. Bush's Medicare prescription drug plan's unfunded $900 billion liability did not go away. And we're still trying to dig out of the the worst recession since the Great Depression, which began in the late summer of 2008.

You also completely ignore that one-half of the deficit would go away if the Bush tax cuts were never enacted, or if they had been allowed to expire in 2010.

[Guest 2smart4u]

Let's review recent American history. At the end of Democrat Bill Clinton's two terms of office, the US government was running annual SURPLUSES. This was after two INCREASES in income taxes in the 1990s (Under George H.W. Bush and Clinton).

Let's review what happened 10 years later after two terms of George W. Bush --

The 2009 federal budget, which covers September 1, 2008 to August 31, 2009 and was signed by George W. Bush, contained a $1.2 trillion dollar deficit.

Yes, the deficits continued in 2009, 2010 and 2011. However, the two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan did not end on January 20, 2009 when Barack Obama became the President. Bush's Medicare prescription drug plan's unfunded $900 billion liability did not go away. And we're still trying to dig out of the the worst recession since the Great Depression, which began in the late summer of 2008.

You also completely ignore that one-half of the deficit would go away if the Bush tax cuts were never enacted, or if they had been allowed to expire in 2010.

You're really pulling numbers out of your ass. The Bush tax cuts added 1(one) trillion to the deficit

each year. zerO will add another trillion to the debt in just the next 6 months. BTW, I intend to gloat

over zerO's defeat in Nov., I hope you don't slice your wrists or do anything stupid.

[Guest Proud American]

You're really pulling numbers out of your ass. The Bush tax cuts added 1(one) trillion to the deficit

each year. zerO will add another trillion to the debt in just the next 6 months. BTW, I intend to gloat

over zerO's defeat in Nov., I hope you don't slice your wrists or do anything stupid.

The Treasury Department announced this week that the deficit was $86 billion in December. And it was $322 billion through the first three months of the budget year – $47 billion less than the same time last year. The Congressional Budget Office estimates the government will run a $973 billion deficit for the budget year that began on Oct. 1, which is lower than last year's $1.3 trillion imbalance.

Even you acknowledge that Bush's tax cuts add about one trillion dollars each year to the deficit.

How much did the nation incur in the Iraq war?

How much does the nation incur each year for Bush's Medicare prescription drug benefit?

And you have the audacity to blame President Obama?

[Guest Patriot]

The Treasury Department announced this week that the deficit was $86 billion in December. And it was $322 billion through the first three months of the budget year – $47 billion less than the same time last year. The Congressional Budget Office estimates the government will run a $973 billion deficit for the budget year that began on Oct. 1, which is lower than last year's $1.3 trillion imbalance.

Even you acknowledge that Bush's tax cuts add about one trillion dollars each year to the deficit.

How much did the nation incur in the Iraq war?

How much does the nation incur each year for Bush's Medicare prescription drug benefit?

And you have the audacity to blame President Obama?

zerO just announced he wants the debt ceiling raised again by 1.2 trillion. Instead of cutting back on the spending he's stepping on the gas. He's want's to bankrupt the country, that's his strategy for creating a European socialist style America. You can't see this with your blinders on.

[Guest 2smart4u]

The Treasury Department announced this week that the deficit was $86 billion in December. And it was $322 billion through the first three months of the budget year – $47 billion less than the same time last year. The Congressional Budget Office estimates the government will run a $973 billion deficit for the budget year that began on Oct. 1, which is lower than last year's $1.3 trillion imbalance.

Even you acknowledge that Bush's tax cuts add about one trillion dollars each year to the deficit.

How much did the nation incur in the Iraq war?

How much does the nation incur each year for Bush's Medicare prescription drug benefit?

And you have the audacity to blame President Obama?

I'll try to explain this so even Proud American understands it. In the 8 years of the Bush administration, the national debt increased 3.8 trillion dollars, and that includes the prescription drug benefit that we all enjoy. Contrast the 3.8 trillion over 8 years to the 5+ trillion (with this latest increase) in just 3 years of the zerO administration.

Now you can try to spin this anyway you like but there's no denying zerO has outspent Bush more than 2 to 1. When are you zerO zOmbies going to finally admit that your boy is the worst president we've ever had (move over Carter). ALSO; If anyone is insane enough to vote for zerO in Nov. remember this, another 4 years with this socialist madman will insure the bankruptcy of america.

[Guest Guest]

I'll try to explain this so even Proud American understands it. In the 8 years of the Bush administration, the national debt increased 3.8 trillion dollars, and that includes the prescription drug benefit that we all enjoy. Contrast the 3.8 trillion over 8 years to the 5+ trillion (with this latest increase) in just 3 years of the zerO administration.

Now you can try to spin this anyway you like but there's no denying zerO has outspent Bush more than 2 to 1. When are you zerO zOmbies going to finally admit that your boy is the worst president we've ever had (move over Carter). ALSO; If anyone is insane enough to vote for zerO in Nov. remember this, another 4 years with this socialist madman will insure the bankruptcy of america.

Bush ran up debt for no reason, except to redistribute wealth to the already-rich. Obama has run up debt to keep the economy from collapsing as a result of what Bush did. If Obama had taken over in 2000, or we had elected Gore, and we had stayed on the path charted by Clinton, we wouldn't have any of these problems.

[Guest Proud American]

I'll try to explain this so even Proud American understands it. In the 8 years of the Bush administration, the national debt increased 3.8 trillion dollars, and that includes the prescription drug benefit that we all enjoy. Contrast the 3.8 trillion over 8 years to the 5+ trillion (with this latest increase) in just 3 years of the zerO administration.

Now you can try to spin this anyway you like but there's no denying zerO has outspent Bush more than 2 to 1. When are you zerO zOmbies going to finally admit that your boy is the worst president we've ever had (move over Carter). ALSO; If anyone is insane enough to vote for zerO in Nov. remember this, another 4 years with this socialist madman will insure the bankruptcy of america.

Except your George W. Bush debt number disregards the budget deficit in his last year (fiscal) in office. Let me re-post the fact I pointed out above:

The 2009 federal budget, which covers September 1, 2008 to August 31, 2009 and was signed by George W. Bush, contained a $1.2 trillion dollar deficit.

Most of the national debt created since the Bill Clinton surpluses are a result of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, the unfunded Medicare prescription drug benefit, and the Bush tax cuts. Eliminate all those, and with TARP having been mostly repaid to the government, there would be NO annual deficit.

Republicans will have to deal with the hard facts. They will also have to deal with a Republican nominee for President who has supported abortion, gay marriage, a health care mandate, and who proclaimed himself to be an "independent" during the Reagan years. Good luck with that.

[Guest Kearny Senior]

Bush ran up debt for no reason, except to redistribute wealth to the already-rich. Obama has run up debt to keep the economy from collapsing as a result of what Bush did. If Obama had taken over in 2000, or we had elected Gore, and we had stayed on the path charted by Clinton, we wouldn't have any of these problems.

A little advice, if you're going to post on this board you should try to avoid posting nonsense, it just makes Obama supporters appear to be fools.

[Guest 2smart4u]

Except your George W. Bush debt number disregards the budget deficit in his last year (fiscal) in office. Let me re-post the fact I pointed out above:

The 2009 federal budget, which covers September 1, 2008 to August 31, 2009 and was signed by George W. Bush, contained a $1.2 trillion dollar deficit.

Most of the national debt created since the Bill Clinton surpluses are a result of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, the unfunded Medicare prescription drug benefit, and the Bush tax cuts. Eliminate all those, and with TARP having been mostly repaid to the government, there would be NO annual deficit.

Republicans will have to deal with the hard facts. They will also have to deal with a Republican nominee for President who has supported abortion, gay marriage, a health care mandate, and who proclaimed himself to be an "independent" during the Reagan years. Good luck with that.

Here's some hard facts: zerO just rejected the Keystone pipeline, maintaining our dependence on arab oil. Gas prices are up 84% since zerO took office. zerO is trying to borrow another 1.2 trillion. Our debt now exceeds our GDP. Unemployment is at 9% while the unemployment among young black males is 42%.

But hey, here's some good news...zerO and his entourage enjoyed their 2 week, 5 million dollar vacation in Hawaii.

[Guest Guest]

A little advice, if you're going to post on this board you should try to avoid posting nonsense, it just makes Obama supporters appear to be fools.

Except for the fact that it's all true.

1. Bush ran up debt for no reason, except to redistribute wealth to the already-rich. True.

2. Obama has run up debt to keep the economy from collapsing as a result of what Bush did. True.

3. If Obama had taken over in 2000, or we had elected Gore, and we had stayed on the path charted by Clinton, we wouldn't have any of these problems. True.

If you have something to say, then say something. Calling truth "nonsense" isn't saying anything, except that it proves you're an idiot.

[Guest Gadfly]

Here's some hard facts that are actually factual. A quick check of fueleconomy.gov shows fuel prices spiked in mid-2008, had a quick dip around the election (hmmm...), continued rising at the same rate, and have actually fallen since Obama tapped the reserves. I already addressed the pipeline bull in the other thread. I agree that more could be done about our high unemployment, but think it is important to point out two things. First, Obama has created more net jobs in three years than Bush did in eight. Second, this is not a failure of Democratic policies but of Republican ones. In 2001 Bush responded to a minor recession with a huge tax cut for the rich. In 2008 they got another tax cut then in 2009 a third of Obama's stimulus was tax cuts. Republicans are only offering more of the same.

[Guest Gadfly]

Ok-had to post before my phone's browser timed me out. Most of the issues with you harping on the debt have already been brought up-you haven't been able to answer a single one. Here's another-discretionary spending has actually fallen while mandatory spending has risen. So how exactly is it Obama's fault?

[Guest Guest]

Here's some hard facts: zerO just rejected the Keystone pipeline, maintaining our dependence on arab oil. Gas prices are up 84% since zerO took office. zerO is trying to borrow another 1.2 trillion. Our debt now exceeds our GDP. Unemployment is at 9% while the unemployment among young black males is 42%.

But hey, here's some good news...zerO and his entourage enjoyed their 2 week, 5 million dollar vacation in Hawaii.

Stupid,

Gas prices tanked in September 2008 when the economic crisis hit under Bush. They still haven't returned to their peak, which was under Bush.

The unemployment rate curve doesn't look much different from the rate during Reagan's first few years. It has never gone as high under Obama as it did under Reagan, and it isn't 9% now. And Reagan didn't inherit the worst economic catastrophe since the Great Depression. President Obama inherited long-term structural problems that Reagan and Bush helped create.

All you ever do is lie and distort.

[Guest Proud American]

Here's some hard facts: zerO just rejected the Keystone pipeline, maintaining our dependence on arab oil. Gas prices are up 84% since zerO took office. zerO is trying to borrow another 1.2 trillion. Our debt now exceeds our GDP. Unemployment is at 9% while the unemployment among young black males is 42%.

But hey, here's some good news...zerO and his entourage enjoyed their 2 week, 5 million dollar vacation in Hawaii.

The Keystone pipe line is opposed by many Americans in the Midwest States where it would be constructed. The President delayed a final decision on the pipeline. As to foreign dependence on fuel, substantial increases in natural gas and renewable energy production under the Obama administration has reduced foreign dependence. As to "Arab oil", it was George W. Bush who went to Saudi Arabia twice in 2008 (one of the trips undisclosed) to assure sufficent Saudi oil supply to the US.

There you go again on the debt. I've told you why the debt is as high as it is: 2 wars, unfunded Medicare prescription benefit, TARP, tax cuts. Those were all initiated by George W. Bush.

Yes, total national debt is EQUAL to ONE year of gross domestic product in the US ($15 trillion).

As to jobs, private sector jobs surged by 325,000 last month and the unemployment rate dropped to 8.5%.

You can verify all the above through basic web searches. You're distorting facts in furtherance of your political agenda of defeating President Obama. In a wired world of instant data and facts, political spin and distortions can easily be checked. And when they're wrong, the speaker's credibility is damaged.

[Guest Proud American]

Here's some hard facts: zerO just rejected the Keystone pipeline, maintaining our dependence on arab oil. Gas prices are up 84% since zerO took office. zerO is trying to borrow another 1.2 trillion. Our debt now exceeds our GDP. Unemployment is at 9% while the unemployment among young black males is 42%.

But hey, here's some good news...zerO and his entourage enjoyed their 2 week, 5 million dollar vacation in Hawaii.

Another one of your distortions: the average price for regular gasoline (adjusted for inflation) hit a historical high in July 2008 at $4.12 per gallon. That was under George W. Bush. Do you actually think Americans don't remember that?