Guest 2smart4u Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 Comrade zerO's socialist dreams are on display in Greece. The country is bankrupt and their entitlement society is the reason; government run health care, months of government paid vacations, subsidized gas and many other government paid perks. Now Greece has come to realize that socialism is a failure and they're trying to change to a more free market capitalist country and the Loonys don't like it. I wonder if Comrade zerO is paying attention? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 Comrade zerO's socialist dreams are on display in Greece. The country is bankrupt and their entitlement society is the reason; government run health care, months of government paid vacations, subsidized gas and many other government paid perks.Now Greece has come to realize that socialism is a failure and they're trying to change to a more free market capitalist country and the Loonys don't like it. I wonder if Comrade zerO is paying attention? Yep, that'a all Obama's fault too.........F**K off you prick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest O Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 his dreams are not nightmares like corporate america oil companies, 4 of top 5 corporate money makers ,wal mart the other exploiter.$ 7.00 per hour.try paying bills with that. oops another oil spill???? ha ha ha who cares , i get it lets make 500 billion pass the expense to the taxpayer. i hope obama puts the screws and wood to them check this. he cares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2smart4u Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 his dreams are not nightmares like corporate americaoil companies, 4 of top 5 corporate money makers ,wal mart the other exploiter.$ 7.00 per hour.try paying bills with that. oops another oil spill???? ha ha ha who cares , i get it lets make 500 billion pass the expense to the taxpayer. i hope obama puts the screws and wood to them check this. he cares Totally unrelated to the situation in Greece. Lay off the Kool-Aid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 Totally unrelated to the situation in Greece. Lay off the Kool-Aid. Lay off the Kool-Aid or what? What the hell are you gonna do about it? What the hell or you gonna do about anything? Why don't you put up or shut-up and run for office? Arrogant piece of sh.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ko Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 Comrade zerO's socialist dreams are on display in Greece. The country is bankrupt and their entitlement society is the reason; government run health care, months of government paid vacations, subsidized gas and many other government paid perks.Now Greece has come to realize that socialism is a failure and they're trying to change to a more free market capitalist country and the Loonys don't like it. I wonder if Comrade zerO is paying attention? And when our financial system collapsed, that was Socialism too? Or wasn't that Capitalism run amok? If there was one way to make yourself look like a dimwit, it was to draw comparisons between us and Greece. And you did. WE HAD A FINANCIAL MELTDOWN ALREADY AND WE WERE SAVED AT THE BRINK BY (I'm sorry to say it, buddy) SPENDING! Did Capitalism not fail us already? How many times? Great depression? Three recessions? FWI, Greece's economy went to shit because their heads of government hid their debt from the general public (with the help of such notables as Goldman Sachs). So you can blames socialism, but it's really fascism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Studies and Observations Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 Lay off the Kool-Aid or what? What the hell are you gonna do about it? What the hell or you gonna do about anything? Why don't you put up or shut-up and run for office? Arrogant piece of sh.... Pot, Meet Kettle. The same can be said about YOU you know. Greece is a Pretty accurate indicator of what happens when the Majority of the population is Dependant on the Government for EVERYTHING, and the Taps get turned off, or the few who actually PRODUCE and pay taxes arent enough to maitnain the Status Quo. The UK will be doing the same thing within 10 years if they keep on the track they are now. France of all people realized that this cant go on, hitched up their sacks and actually DID something about it, Same with the Germans and Belgians. Socialism/Communism doesnt work on a large scale, because Human beings aren't Insects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2smart4u Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 And when our financial system collapsed, that was Socialism too? Or wasn't that Capitalism run amok? If there was one way to make yourself look like a dimwit, it was to draw comparisons between us and Greece. And you did. WE HAD A FINANCIAL MELTDOWN ALREADY AND WE WERE SAVED AT THE BRINK BY (I'm sorry to say it, buddy) SPENDING! Did Capitalism not fail us already? How many times? Great depression? Three recessions? FWI, Greece's economy went to shit because their heads of government hid their debt from the general public (with the help of such notables as Goldman Sachs). So you can blames socialism, but it's really fascism. I think Bush did it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ko Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 I think Bush did it. Damn. You're hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 I think Bush did it. Your smartest comment yet. Great post! Now step away from the AM radio and the limbaugh show and you'll continue to improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Reality Check Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Comrade zerO's socialist dreams are on display in Greece. The country is bankrupt and their entitlement society is the reason; government run health care, months of government paid vacations, subsidized gas and many other government paid perks.Now Greece has come to realize that socialism is a failure and they're trying to change to a more free market capitalist country and the Loonys don't like it. I wonder if Comrade zerO is paying attention? Subsidized gas in Greece?? They pay $5.83 per gallon (1.10 euros per liter). If they're subsiized, then gasoline in the US would be super-subsidized. And they're not at the high end in Europe: As American drivers groan over gasoline prices, the French are paying $8.67 for a gallon of super, compared to $7.10 in January, 2007. A gallon of diesel in French gas stations averages $8.54, up from $5.35 just a year ago. And in the U.K. diesel costs $11.50 per gallon, compared to around $3.90 in the U.S. Across the European Union, the average cost of a gallon of gas runs to about $8.70 — more than twice what Americans are shelling out to fill up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Reality Checker Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Comrade zerO's socialist dreams are on display in Greece. The country is bankrupt and their entitlement society is the reason; government run health care, months of government paid vacations, subsidized gas and many other government paid perks.Now Greece has come to realize that socialism is a failure and they're trying to change to a more free market capitalist country and the Loonys don't like it. I wonder if Comrade zerO is paying attention? Where were you a year ago when Latvia collapsed? They're in Europe. The difference is that Latvia had a very conservative government. They even had a flat tax, the dream of every right winger. But they collapsed hugely. This is from 2009: Latvia's Government Is the Latest in Europe to Fail Nation's Latest Turmoil Over Economy, Following Leadership Collapses in Belgium and Iceland, Sparks New Fears of ContagionArticle Comments more in Markets Main » By ALAN CULLISON Latvia's prime minister and cabinet resigned Friday, making it the third European government, after Iceland and Belgium, to be toppled by the economic crisis. The fall of the Baltic country's center-right coalition government -- following weeks of political instability as the Latvian economy nosedives after years of strong growth -- deepens worries that eastern Europe's economic problems could send fresh shockwaves to its neighbors in the west. Analysts say the political turmoil likely spells trouble for a €7.5 billion ($9.5 billion) International Monetary Fund loan program Latvia agreed to last year, which has helped underpin Latvia's currency, the lat. The government collapse could scuttle an unpopular austerity program that Latvia agreed to in order to avoid a currency devaluation. In January, social and political tensions exploded into some of the worst rioting since the collapse of the Soviet Union on 1991. The turmoil in Latvia comes amid fears that weakening currencies in Eastern Europe could cause new defaults with western banks, and worsen the economic spiral in Europe. Shares of Scandinavian banks sank on news of the government resignation Friday, as did the value of the Swedish currency, the kronor. The government last year turned to the IMF and a consortium of European countries for its loan to cover a ballooning current-account deficit. As part of the agreement, Latvia decided to resist a devaluation and launch an austerity program. The economy's decline has accelerated under the plan, with output falling more than 10% in the fourth quarter of 2008 from the previous year, meeting a common yardstick for a depression. On Wednesday the Finance Ministry predicted that gross domestic product would fall 12% this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 2stupid4words is an apt name. Our system is nothing like the one in Greece. And as Studies and Observations correctly observes, the problem there, and here, was capitalism run amok. The problem with too much socialism is that people don't do for themselves. The problem with too much capitalism is that greed ruins everything, usually because there aren't enough regulations and often because the middle class gets screwed while a few people pile up vast fortunes. You can tell that to people like 2stupid4words all you want, it won't make any difference. They're not listening. They'll sing themselves to sleep with their moronic right-wing lullabies and would sooner see the country destroyed than change what little minds they have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2smart4u Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 Where were you a year ago when Latvia collapsed? They're in Europe. The difference is that Latvia had a very conservative government. They even had a flat tax, the dream of every right winger. But they collapsed hugely. This is from 2009:Latvia's Government Is the Latest in Europe to Fail Nation's Latest Turmoil Over Economy, Following Leadership Collapses in Belgium and Iceland, Sparks New Fears of ContagionArticle Comments more in Markets Main » By ALAN CULLISON Latvia's prime minister and cabinet resigned Friday, making it the third European government, after Iceland and Belgium, to be toppled by the economic crisis. The fall of the Baltic country's center-right coalition government -- following weeks of political instability as the Latvian economy nosedives after years of strong growth -- deepens worries that eastern Europe's economic problems could send fresh shockwaves to its neighbors in the west. Analysts say the political turmoil likely spells trouble for a €7.5 billion ($9.5 billion) International Monetary Fund loan program Latvia agreed to last year, which has helped underpin Latvia's currency, the lat. The government collapse could scuttle an unpopular austerity program that Latvia agreed to in order to avoid a currency devaluation. In January, social and political tensions exploded into some of the worst rioting since the collapse of the Soviet Union on 1991. The turmoil in Latvia comes amid fears that weakening currencies in Eastern Europe could cause new defaults with western banks, and worsen the economic spiral in Europe. Shares of Scandinavian banks sank on news of the government resignation Friday, as did the value of the Swedish currency, the kronor. The government last year turned to the IMF and a consortium of European countries for its loan to cover a ballooning current-account deficit. As part of the agreement, Latvia decided to resist a devaluation and launch an austerity program. The economy's decline has accelerated under the plan, with output falling more than 10% in the fourth quarter of 2008 from the previous year, meeting a common yardstick for a depression. On Wednesday the Finance Ministry predicted that gross domestic product would fall 12% this year. Leave it to a Loony to search the internet to find some obscure item or fact and then try to use that obscure item or fact to defend Comrade zerO. I suppose in your Kool-Aid saturated brain, Latvia's problems mean Socialism is good and the U.S. is not in any danger of bankruptcy and Comrade zerO's spending frenzy is all good. BTW, our debt is about to break the 13 trillion dollar mark. But hey, it's all good, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fact Checker Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 Subsidized gas in Greece?? They pay $5.83 per gallon (1.10 euros per liter). If they're subsiized, then gasoline in the US would be super-subsidized. And they're not at the high end in Europe:As American drivers groan over gasoline prices, the French are paying $8.67 for a gallon of super, compared to $7.10 in January, 2007. A gallon of diesel in French gas stations averages $8.54, up from $5.35 just a year ago. And in the U.K. diesel costs $11.50 per gallon, compared to around $3.90 in the U.S. Across the European Union, the average cost of a gallon of gas runs to about $8.70 — more than twice what Americans are shelling out to fill up. Gasoline in the U.S. is super-subsidized, thanks to Bush/Cheney. Remember that walk through the desert that George Bush took with Saudi Arabian King Faisal three years ago? Wait till market reality catches up with our unrealistic gasoline prices, it'll be yet one more Bush/Cheney-caused financial disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 Obama administration says it supports measure to avoid teacher layoffs By Nick Anderson Washington Post staff writer Thursday, May 13, 2010; 8:25 PM The Obama administration on Thursday threw its support behind a $23 billion measure intended to avert large-scale teacher layoffs, urging Congress to include the effort in a spending bill lawmakers are drafting to fund wartime costs and other urgent needs. "We are gravely concerned that ongoing state and local budget challenges are threatening hundreds of thousands of teacher jobs for the upcoming school year," Education Secretary Arne Duncan wrote in a letter to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.). Duncan added: "These budget cuts would also undermine the groundbreaking reform efforts under way in states and districts all across the country." Duncan's letter, released Thursday evening with backing from the White House, aimed to push the issue of education jobs to the fore as the Senate prepares to consider a supplemental spending bill in coming weeks to fund military operations in Afghanistan and other expenses. With state and local budgets in dire shape following the economic downturn, Duncan urged Congress to approve the $23 billion to help schools out of their fiscal jam as well as $2 billion to fund police and firefighter positions and $1 billion for early childhood education jobs. Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) has proposed a $23 billion bailout for schools that would in essence extend federal stimulus spending for another year in response to reports of widespread potential public education layoffs around the country. His bill has significant Democratic support, and the House in December approved a bill that includes similar funding to save education jobs. But congressional aides say significant hurdles remain. Republicans and some Democrats have expressed concern that Harkin's measure would add to the federal deficit. Harkin plans to offer his bill as an amendment when the supplemental spending measure comes to the Senate floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Leave it to a Loony to search the internet to find some obscure item or fact and then try to use that obscure item or fact to defend Comrade zerO.I suppose in your Kool-Aid saturated brain, Latvia's problems mean Socialism is good and the U.S. is not in any danger of bankruptcy and Comrade zerO's spending frenzy is all good. BTW, our debt is about to break the 13 trillion dollar mark. But hey, it's all good, right? Idiot, A fact that disproves your argument isn't obscure. It's just a fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 The private for profit schools are turning out thousands of grads with no future due to out sourcing and most will default on the loans. The equity from all the over priced homes was used to float the economy until the owners fell victim to the economy and rising mortgages. The damage from the tech bubble was air brushed with equity but now the real economy has been exposed. The losses of private sector jobs paying more than $11 dollars per hour with benefits have been gutted. The costs of healthcare expedited the losses. People fled NJ because they did not have the income to live here or did not want to be taxed into the gutter. Retirees are leaving taking their pensions with them. The income after wages for the average NJ can not support Public sector jobs paying more than $25,000 per year with benefits. The truth is now your teacher's education is about as valuable as a Door Greeter at Walmart. When cost outstrips revenue the value declines until it seeks a sustainable level. With the baby boomers and others kicked to the curb by cheap labor the top of the income pile in the public sector will come crashing down not just for a short while but for ever how long it takes to put people in the private sector over age 40, 50 ,and 60 into jobs paying high wages! Look at the private sector down fall then look in the mirror this is your future. Do you think putting a strip mall in the old Edison Ford plant is going to create high paying jobs. If we go down you go down with us an that is what is happening from now on. This is not a business cycle it is permanent until good private sector jobs come back. How long do you thinks this mess will last? For now your over educated no one needs an MBA to push a broom or clean toilets, unload a truck or stock shelves. Welcome to Walamrt now go pull the pallets until they find out your too old an fire you wrongfully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2smart4u Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Gasoline in the U.S. is super-subsidized, thanks to Bush/Cheney. Remember that walk through the desert that George Bush took with Saudi Arabian King Faisal three years ago? Wait till market reality catches up with our unrealistic gasoline prices, it'll be yet one more Bush/Cheney-caused financial disaster. A Loony that doesn't support a government entitlement program ?? Amazing! This is one government entitlement program I support. Most americans need to drive to work and while $7.00 a gal. gasoline wouldn't hurt some people, lower income people would be in trouble. Since we don't have an adequate mass-transit system, subsidized gas is the next best thing. All you Loonys that use your cars to get to work, say a little prayer of thanks to one of our greatest presidents, George W. Bush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fact Checker Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 A Loony that doesn't support a government entitlement program ?? Amazing! This is one government entitlement program I support. Most americans need to drive to work and while $7.00 a gal. gasoline wouldn't hurt some people, lower income people would be in trouble.Since we don't have an adequate mass-transit system, subsidized gas is the next best thing. All you Loonys that use your cars to get to work, say a little prayer of thanks to one of our greatest presidents, George W. Bush. I like pointing out your untruths (many) and your hypocrisy (also many). So, following your logic, Greece's problem is that it didn't have enough entitlements? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Reality Checker Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 Leave it to a Loony to search the internet to find some obscure item or fact and then try to use that obscure item or fact to defend Comrade zerO.I suppose in your Kool-Aid saturated brain, Latvia's problems mean Socialism is good and the U.S. is not in any danger of bankruptcy and Comrade zerO's spending frenzy is all good. BTW, our debt is about to break the 13 trillion dollar mark. But hey, it's all good, right? 1. To compare Greece to the US is absurd. 2. Latvia is a similar size economy as Greece. It had a right wing government. It's also in the tank. That pops your 'socialism' bubble. 3. I never said spending was good. 4. Over 10 trillion of US debt preceded President Obama. President George W. Bush still holds the record for the most debt run up on his watch: $4.9 trillion. But you don't point that out. That fact shows you're a hypocrite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2smart4u Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 1. To compare Greece to the US is absurd. 2. Latvia is a similar size economy as Greece. It had a right wing government. It's also in the tank. That pops your 'socialism' bubble. 3. I never said spending was good. 4. Over 10 trillion of US debt preceded President Obama. President George W. Bush still holds the record for the most debt run up on his watch: $4.9 trillion. But you don't point that out. That fact shows you're a hypocrite. Reality Checker's facts are not quite complete. Here's the no-spin facts: When Bush took office the national debt was 5.73 trillion, when he left office after 8 years (most of which we were fighting global terrorism), the debt was 10.7 trillion. So Bush incresed the debt by 4.97 trillion. Comrade zerO has taken that 10.7 trillion and added another 2.3 trillion in a little more than a year, the debt is just about to break 13 trillion. Looking at it another way, Bush added 1/2 trillion each of his eight years in office. Comrade zerO has already exceeded in one year what it took Bush 4 years to do. The comatose democrats in congress are seemingly oblivious to this spending frenzy. Comrade zerO is on the news every day spending billions here and billions there while Pelosi and Reed stand by with their moronic grins on their faces. November can't come quickly enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 Reality Checker's facts are not quite complete. Here's the no-spin facts: When Bush took office the national debt was 5.73 trillion, when he left office after 8 years (most of which we were fighting global terrorism), the debt was 10.7 trillion. So Bush incresed the debt by 4.97 trillion.Comrade zerO has taken that 10.7 trillion and added another 2.3 trillion in a little more than a year, the debt is just about to break 13 trillion. Looking at it another way, Bush added 1/2 trillion each of his eight years in office. Comrade zerO has already exceeded in one year what it took Bush 4 years to do. The comatose democrats in congress are seemingly oblivious to this spending frenzy. Comrade zerO is on the news every day spending billions here and billions there while Pelosi and Reed stand by with their moronic grins on their faces. November can't come quickly enough. Stupid, Bush added nearly $5 trillion to the debt during his eight years, more than any other president. http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports...debt_histo5.htm Obama has spend money to avoid an economic collapse. When you're in trouble, sometimes you have to spend money. Don't blame the guy who is fixing the mess he inherited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ko Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 Reality Checker's facts are not quite complete. Here's the no-spin facts: When Bush took office the national debt was 5.73 trillion, when he left office after 8 years (most of which we were fighting global terrorism), the debt was 10.7 trillion. So Bush incresed the debt by 4.97 trillion.Comrade zerO has taken that 10.7 trillion and added another 2.3 trillion in a little more than a year, the debt is just about to break 13 trillion. Looking at it another way, Bush added 1/2 trillion each of his eight years in office. Comrade zerO has already exceeded in one year what it took Bush 4 years to do. The comatose democrats in congress are seemingly oblivious to this spending frenzy. Comrade zerO is on the news every day spending billions here and billions there while Pelosi and Reed stand by with their moronic grins on their faces. November can't come quickly enough. remind us again how bush spent our money. and then let us know what obama spent most of our money on. don't bother to mention that he spent a lot of it cleaning up the messes of w. bush, clinton, h.w. bush, reagan and carter. we already know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 remind us again how bush spent our money. and then let us know what obama spent most of our money on. don't bother to mention that he spent a lot of it cleaning up the messes of w. bush, clinton, h.w. bush, reagan and carter. we already know that. Remind you of 9/11 ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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