More disturbing data

[Guest 2smart4u]

For 2010, the U.S. is expected to take in 2.2 trillion dollars in taxes. At the same time the U.S. spending in 2010 is expected to be 3.4 trillion dollars, the difference being made up by borrowing 1.2 trillion from other countries.

What's Comrade zerO's response to this fiscal nightmare? Full speed ahead on his socialist entitlement agenda.

[Guest Guest]

For 2010, the U.S. is expected to take in 2.2 trillion dollars in taxes. At the same time the U.S. spending in 2010 is expected to be 3.4 trillion dollars, the difference being made up by borrowing 1.2 trillion from other countries.

What's Comrade zerO's response to this fiscal nightmare? Full speed ahead on his socialist entitlement agenda.

Imagine your family income is $1,000. a week and your spending is $1500. a week. How long before your credit cards are maxed out and the banks are coming after you? This is the situation the U.S. is in right now and Obama's response is ...........more spending !!!

Everyone who voted for Obama should stand up from your computer right now and smack yourself across the face for being so stupid.

[Guest Keith]

Imagine your family income is $1,000. a week and your spending is $1500. a week. How long before your credit cards are maxed out and the banks are coming after you? This is the situation the U.S. is in right now and Obama's response is ...........more spending !!!

Everyone who voted for Obama should stand up from your computer right now and smack yourself across the face for being so stupid.

Hmmm.........has GW paid for his wars yet? No. Sometimes you actually have to spend money. Now, you and 2smart go back to be and let the grown up's talk

[Guest Guest]

Imagine your family income is $1,000. a week and your spending is $1500. a week. How long before your credit cards are maxed out and the banks are coming after you? This is the situation the U.S. is in right now and Obama's response is ...........more spending !!!

Everyone who voted for Obama should stand up from your computer right now and smack yourself across the face for being so stupid.

Finish the analogy. Say you spend $1,500 a week to get a college education so you can get a job that pays $2,000 a week. The investment is worth it.

Or say you spend the $1,500 a week to open a business in which you earn $3,000 a week.

Or say you spend part of the $1,500 a week so you don't lose the house.

It's called an investment. Now YOU go smack yourself across the face,

STUPID.

[Guest Guest]

Imagine your family income is $1,000. a week and your spending is $1500. a week. How long before your credit cards are maxed out and the banks are coming after you? This is the situation the U.S. is in right now and Obama's response is ...........more spending !!!

Everyone who voted for Obama should stand up from your computer right now and smack yourself across the face for being so stupid.

Sure, if you just keep spending money and don't get anything back for it, that would be true. But what if you're spending the money to invest in your future? If we hadn't spent the money, we would have many more millions of people out of work than we have now. Major financial institutions would have collapsed. The entire economy might have collapsed. Factor in the cost of that. It's astronomical.

Say you own a business. You've been living off your goodwill and equity for years, refusing to spend any money to modernize your business. Eventually it catches up with you and you start running in the red. (That's what happened throughout the Reagan era, from 1981-2009.) You're going to have to bite the bullet and invest in your business, going deeper into debt for a while, or you're going to have to fold the business. It would have been easier to have done it when you had more capital but you didn't, so now you're going to have to sweat out some tough times. Don't blame the new business manager who wakes you up to the problem you've been ignoring for years.

Or say you've been working a low-paying job, just barely making ends meet. You've been borrowing a little here and a little there until finally you have no savings at all. If you can get a loan to get an education or some training, you'll be further in debt for a while. But once you have the training/education and stop being so lazy, you can start earning a decent income and get out of debt.

That's the situation we're in. We should have been investing in infrastructure and new energy sources (wind, solar, geothermal and nuclear) for decades, and we should have brought the health insurance industry under control a long time ago. If we had done that, we wouldn't have wasted trillions of dollars making the insurance companies, the oil companies and the Saudis rich, and we wouldn't be in the red. But we didn't; we bought the Republican line of "drill, baby, drill," even though we have only 2% of the world's oil reserves and 25% of the world's demand for oil. Now those are numbers that don't add up in the long run.

And we bought the Republican idea, which came straight from Reagan, that government is the enemy. So we deregulated major sectors of the economy, completely ignoring the lessons of the Great Depression, and guess what - the same thing happened all over again. Left unregulated, financial institutions speculated us into an artificial prosperity that came crashing down, just as it had done in 1929.

When you look at the long-term economic situation of a country like the United States, you can't just look at what has happened in the past year. You have to look at why it happened. We piled up a lot of debt in the past year because we were in a desperate situation that had to be addressed short term. Now we have to get smart, for a change, and invest in the future. That is what Obama is trying to do.

[Guest 2smart4u]

Sure, if you just keep spending money and don't get anything back for it, that would be true. But what if you're spending the money to invest in your future? If we hadn't spent the money, we would have many more millions of people out of work than we have now. Major financial institutions would have collapsed. The entire economy might have collapsed. Factor in the cost of that. It's astronomical.

Say you own a business. You've been living off your goodwill and equity for years, refusing to spend any money to modernize your business. Eventually it catches up with you and you start running in the red. (That's what happened throughout the Reagan era, from 1981-2009.) You're going to have to bite the bullet and invest in your business, going deeper into debt for a while, or you're going to have to fold the business. It would have been easier to have done it when you had more capital but you didn't, so now you're going to have to sweat out some tough times. Don't blame the new business manager who wakes you up to the problem you've been ignoring for years.

Or say you've been working a low-paying job, just barely making ends meet. You've been borrowing a little here and a little there until finally you have no savings at all. If you can get a loan to get an education or some training, you'll be further in debt for a while. But once you have the training/education and stop being so lazy, you can start earning a decent income and get out of debt.

That's the situation we're in. We should have been investing in infrastructure and new energy sources (wind, solar, geothermal and nuclear) for decades, and we should have brought the health insurance industry under control a long time ago. If we had done that, we wouldn't have wasted trillions of dollars making the insurance companies, the oil companies and the Saudis rich, and we wouldn't be in the red. But we didn't; we bought the Republican line of "drill, baby, drill," even though we have only 2% of the world's oil reserves and 25% of the world's demand for oil. Now those are numbers that don't add up in the long run.

And we bought the Republican idea, which came straight from Reagan, that government is the enemy. So we deregulated major sectors of the economy, completely ignoring the lessons of the Great Depression, and guess what - the same thing happened all over again. Left unregulated, financial institutions speculated us into an artificial prosperity that came crashing down, just as it had done in 1929.

When you look at the long-term economic situation of a country like the United States, you can't just look at what has happened in the past year. You have to look at why it happened. We piled up a lot of debt in the past year because we were in a desperate situation that had to be addressed short term. Now we have to get smart, for a change, and invest in the future. That is what Obama is trying to do.

I'm afraid there's no hope for you, you've become an Obama Zombie. You're doomed to wander the earth staring blankly and chanting "Bush did it".

[Guest Guest]

I'm afraid there's no hope for you, you've become an Obama Zombie. You're doomed to wander the earth staring blankly and chanting "Bush did it".

But there's lots of hope for condumbs like you that got their butts kicked (or thumped like bushie said) in the last 3 national elections and roam the earth thinking somehow they're still relevant in this country. Just say NO, it's working so well for you.

[Guest 2smart4u]

But there's lots of hope for condumbs like you that got their butts kicked (or thumped like bushie said) in the last 3 national elections and roam the earth thinking somehow they're still relevant in this country. Just say NO, it's working so well for you.

Please come back after the Nov. elections and print that again, it will be good for a laugh.

[Guest Guest]

I'm afraid there's no hope for you, you've become an Obama Zombie. You're doomed to wander the earth staring blankly and chanting "Bush did it".

Dude, you got spanked. If you had any sense, you'd shut up instead of proving beyond any doubt that you have nothing to say.

[Guest Guest]

I'm afraid there's no hope for you, you've become an Obama Zombie. You're doomed to wander the earth staring blankly and chanting "Bush did it".

Stupid,

Here's the deal. When someone makes a substantive argument (in other words, actually says something), a person intending to respond, who went to school and has even just a little bit of intelligence, is expected to respond to the content of the argument made. In other words, he is supposed to actually say something.

The concept here is that a discussion should be about something. "Your mother wears army boots" and "oh yeah!" may have popular in third grade but adults are supposed to grow past that.

The substantive argument is that sometimes very responsible people accumulate debt. Anyone with a home mortgage or a loan for a college education or a new business understands this point.

The argument could also be made, with ample support, that most of our current debt was incurred by Republican presidents beginning with Reagan. Historically, Republican presidents have talked about less spending and lower deficits but they haven't done it. Those are facts, which of course you ignore.

A zombie is someone who walks around as though he was alive but he isn't really alive and he certainly isn't thinking. If you're going post idiotic remarks, ignore all the facts and parrot every right-wing talking point without looking at the facts from the real world, you're in no position to call someone else a zombie.

You would think that after making a fool of yourself day after day for many years, you would reconsider your views. But of course that would require you to think, which explains why you have never done it.

Very seriously, people aren't calling you stupid because they disagree with you. They're calling you stupid because you're writing like a stupid person. You're acting stupid.

That's way too complicated for you, isn't it. Oh well, at least you're a good example of the present-day Republican.

[Guest *Autonomous*]

Please come back after the Nov. elections and print that again, it will be good for a laugh.

Shall I Google your own predictions for 2008?

If you were a strategic thinker you would realize that even though the Republicans will pick up seats this fall (not as many as you'd like though-I predict they'll at most even out the Senate and take a slight lead in the House. Probably not though. Realistically more like 7 Senate seats) they are incredibly weakened for the long term. The Tea Party movement is partially motivated by health care reform (actually fear of raised taxes to go along with it) and partially by anger at Bush's bailout (and again-taxes). This will make it incredibly difficult for the Republicans to bail out the megacorps in the future. If you don't think that's bad I strongly advise you to do some Googling of the Bush years. Additionally, the health care debate moved everyone to the left-even Republicans had to finally admit that something had to be done. For all the anger, the only thing more unpopular than either party's plan was doing nothing. Finally-this election will see an infusion of some pretty radical Republicans. Just like 1994. Which should give you pause. But it won't.

[Guest Guest]

Please come back after the Nov. elections and print that again, it will be good for a laugh.

The only laughs are those we get from President Giuliani, McCain and the rest of your predicted winners. Now why don't you walk quickly across your shag carpet, shuffling your feet. The static discharge may just jump start your brain.

[Guest 2smart4u]

Shall I Google your own predictions for 2008?

If you were a strategic thinker you would realize that even though the Republicans will pick up seats this fall (not as many as you'd like though-I predict they'll at most even out the Senate and take a slight lead in the House. Probably not though. Realistically more like 7 Senate seats) they are incredibly weakened for the long term. The Tea Party movement is partially motivated by health care reform (actually fear of raised taxes to go along with it) and partially by anger at Bush's bailout (and again-taxes). This will make it incredibly difficult for the Republicans to bail out the megacorps in the future. If you don't think that's bad I strongly advise you to do some Googling of the Bush years. Additionally, the health care debate moved everyone to the left-even Republicans had to finally admit that something had to be done. For all the anger, the only thing more unpopular than either party's plan was doing nothing. Finally-this election will see an infusion of some pretty radical Republicans. Just like 1994. Which should give you pause. But it won't.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Stick to what you know best; 10w40 and Fram.

[Guest Guest]

You have no idea what you're talking about. Stick to what you know best; 10w40 and Fram.

Why don't you just write this: "I have absolutely nothing to say so I'll make another childish remark that has absolutely nothing to do with the subject I opened, ostensibly for discussion."