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It turns out that big oil and the radical religious right insisted that Palin be the nominee, or they wouldn't support McCain.

Do you really need me to explain?

Kool-Aid alert !!

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Yes. If you're going to make a claim like that, you need to back it up.

No problem.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=67981...ctionid=3510303

From Palin’s own lips: “I beg to disagree with any candidate who would say we can’t drill our way out of our problem.”

She supports more drilling in protected areas of the Outer Continental Shelf and the Alaska Natural Wildlife Refuge, once attacking McCain for his “close-mindedness on ANWR.”

http://thinkprogress.org/wonkroom/2008/08/...alin-oil-champ/

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/03/opinion/...amp;oref=slogin

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article...05101&imw=Y

Approximately 1/3 of the way down the page, you’ll find this:

“She goes further than McCain in calling for greater oil exploration, supporting drilling in the Alaska National Wildlife Refuge, an idea that is anathema to environmentalists. She is widely credited with reviving a long-stalled effort to build a natural-gas pipeline from Alaska's Prudhoe Bay energy fields to the Lower 48 states. Environmentalists have nicknamed Palin the “killa from Wasilla.” “Her philosophy from our perspective is cut, kill, dig and drill,” said John Toppenberg, director of the Alaska Wildlife Alliance. She has defended Alaska’s right to shoot down wolves from the air to boost caribou and moose herds for hunters, and -- contrary to a view held by McCain -- is not convinced that global warming is the result of human activity.”

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/wedn...D&dist=hppr

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas...5527640103.html

Or you could have googled “Palin” – “big oil” like I did and found out for yourself.

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That Palin favors the interests of oil companies and evangelicals is not at issue. Nor is the probability that pleasing oil interests and social conservatives were among the reasons McCain chose her. Neither side is likely to disagree with those things.

The claim you need to back up is:

It turns out that big oil and the radical religious right insisted that Palin be the nominee, or they wouldn't support McCain.

That implies that oil interests and evangelicals actually pressured and threatened McCain to choose Palin specifically, not merely that McCain chose her in order to gain their favor. If that isn't what you meant to imply, then say so, and we'll just write it off as a case of poor wording. If that is what you meant to imply, then you still need to back it up. The difference between a conspiracy and run-of-the-mill pandering is significant.

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That Palin favors the interests of oil companies and evangelicals is not at issue. Nor is the probability that pleasing oil interests and social conservatives were among the reasons McCain chose her. Neither side is likely to disagree with those things.

The claim you need to back up is:

That implies that oil interests and evangelicals actually pressured and threatened McCain to choose Palin specifically, not merely that McCain chose her in order to gain their favor. If that isn't what you meant to imply, then say so, and we'll just write it off as a case of poor wording. If that is what you meant to imply, then you still need to back it up. The difference between a conspiracy and run-of-the-mill pandering is significant.

What has happened these past few days is pretty obvious. There was a meeting with Weyrich and a few others during which this transpired. It was the subject of discussion on Air America on Saturday afternoon. Robert Kennedy was the guest on the show. You can't really call it a conspiracy. Politics is politics. It's just disgusting to watch stupid people vote against their own best interests and take the rest of us down with them.

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What has happened these past few days is pretty obvious. There was a meeting with Weyrich and a few others during which this transpired. It was the subject of discussion on Air America on Saturday afternoon. Robert Kennedy was the guest on the show. You can't really call it a conspiracy. Politics is politics. It's just disgusting to watch stupid people vote against their own best interests and take the rest of us down with them.

Air America ?? You're one of about 3 people that actually listen to Air America.

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