Guest Guest Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Subpoenas are being issued in trooper-gate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bern Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Executive privilege is a convenient, all-purpose excuse, clearly not justified in this case. And how would you know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 And how would you know? Because they drag it out every single time they don't want to produce evidence. And every single time, when all records are disclosed years later --- as in Watergate --- there was no basis for it. How many times does Lucy have to pull back the football before you figure out what's going on, Charlie Brown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 There are so many things to pick from . . . Here's today's installment. “Palin's town billed rape victims to get evidence” http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jfTm-bO...CDN-wQD934SK0G0 http://www.usnews.com/blogs/on-health-and-...t-question.html She's going down, boys and girls! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Palin claimed she went to Iraq to visit the troops. Here's the truth. She never did. She was lying. http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/po...1,3662473.story Trickle, trickle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 “Once Elected, Palin Hired Friends and Lashed Foes” http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/us/polit...amp;oref=slogin Read it and weep, Resmuglicans. Your un-vetted darling, who claims to be pure and above corruption, is a two-bit political whore. Oh, excuse me, she was handing out the jobs. That would make her the pimp. “WASILLA, Alaska — Gov. Sarah Palin lives by the maxim that all politics is local, not to mention personal. So when there was a vacancy at the top of the State Division of Agriculture, she appointed a high school classmate, Franci Havemeister, to the $95,000-a-year directorship. A former real estate agent, Ms. Havemeister cited her childhood love of cows as a qualification for running the roughly $2 million agency. Ms. Havemeister was one of at least five schoolmates Ms. Palin hired, often at salaries far exceeding their private sector wages. When Ms. Palin had to cut her first state budget, she avoided the legion of frustrated legislators and mayors. Instead, she huddled with her budget director and her husband, Todd, an oil field worker who is not a state employee, and vetoed millions of dollars of legislative projects. And four months ago, a Wasilla blogger, Sherry Whitstine, who chronicles the governor’s career with an astringent eye, answered her phone to hear an assistant to the governor on the line, she said. “You should be ashamed!” Ivy Frye, the assistant, told her. “Stop blogging. Stop blogging right now!” Ms. Palin walks the national stage as a small-town foe of “good old boy” politics and a champion of ethics reform. The charismatic 44-year-old governor draws enthusiastic audiences and high approval ratings. And as the Republican vice-presidential nominee, she points to her management experience while deriding her Democratic rivals, Senators Barack Obama and Joseph R. Biden Jr., as speechmakers who never have run anything. But an examination of her swift rise and record as mayor of Wasilla and then governor finds that her visceral style and penchant for attacking critics — she sometimes calls local opponents “haters” — contrasts with her carefully crafted public image. Throughout her political career, she has pursued vendettas, fired officials who crossed her and sometimes blurred the line between government and personal grievance, according to a review of public records and interviews with 60 Republican and Democratic legislators and local officials. . . .” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamK Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 “Palin's town billed rape victims to get evidence” Unless someone can show that she knew about or condoned this, it has no relevance. Trying to spin it as something negative about Palin is just a sleazy guilt by association attempt. A dishonest smear. I know that the guilt by association tactic has been used extensively against Obama, and perpetrated by several here on this board, but two wrongs don't make a right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Unless someone can show that she knew about or condoned this, it has no relevance. Trying to spin it as something negative about Palin is just a sleazy guilt by association attempt. A dishonest smear.I know that the guilt by association tactic has been used extensively against Obama, and perpetrated by several here on this board, but two wrongs don't make a right. I disagree, William. She was mayor at the time, so unless she did something to try to stop it she was condoning it. The burden of proof is on her under these circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 “Once Elected, Palin Hired Friends and Lashed Foes”http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/us/polit...amp;oref=slogin Read it and weep, Resmuglicans. Your un-vetted darling, who claims to be pure and above corruption, is a two-bit political whore. Oh, excuse me, she was handing out the jobs. That would make her the pimp. “WASILLA, Alaska — Gov. Sarah Palin lives by the maxim that all politics is local, not to mention personal. So when there was a vacancy at the top of the State Division of Agriculture, she appointed a high school classmate, Franci Havemeister, to the $95,000-a-year directorship. A former real estate agent, Ms. Havemeister cited her childhood love of cows as a qualification for running the roughly $2 million agency. Ms. Havemeister was one of at least five schoolmates Ms. Palin hired, often at salaries far exceeding their private sector wages. When Ms. Palin had to cut her first state budget, she avoided the legion of frustrated legislators and mayors. Instead, she huddled with her budget director and her husband, Todd, an oil field worker who is not a state employee, and vetoed millions of dollars of legislative projects. And four months ago, a Wasilla blogger, Sherry Whitstine, who chronicles the governor’s career with an astringent eye, answered her phone to hear an assistant to the governor on the line, she said. “You should be ashamed!” Ivy Frye, the assistant, told her. “Stop blogging. Stop blogging right now!” Ms. Palin walks the national stage as a small-town foe of “good old boy” politics and a champion of ethics reform. The charismatic 44-year-old governor draws enthusiastic audiences and high approval ratings. And as the Republican vice-presidential nominee, she points to her management experience while deriding her Democratic rivals, Senators Barack Obama and Joseph R. Biden Jr., as speechmakers who never have run anything. But an examination of her swift rise and record as mayor of Wasilla and then governor finds that her visceral style and penchant for attacking critics — she sometimes calls local opponents “haters” — contrasts with her carefully crafted public image. Throughout her political career, she has pursued vendettas, fired officials who crossed her and sometimes blurred the line between government and personal grievance, according to a review of public records and interviews with 60 Republican and Democratic legislators and local officials. . . .” Politics 101: Lesson One; When politicians at all levels of government get elected, they bring in their people as part of their administration. Previous administration personnel are typically let go or re-assigned. Of course a Mayor, Governor, President wants people in positions of authority within their administration they can trust and have confidence in. If you don't understand this then you're either naive or stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Politics 101: Lesson One; When politicians at all levels of government get elected, they bring in their people as part of their administration. Previous administration personnel are typically let go or re-assigned. Of course a Mayor, Governor, President wants people in positions of authority within their administration they can trust and have confidence in. If you don't understand this then you're either naive or stupid. I love it when people who think they know a lot call other people stupid. It's OK to bring in a long-time friend or two if they're qualified. Clinton had a friend he had known from kindergarten as one of his closest advisers. But when someone's administration looks like their high school yearbook, there's a problem. That's what Palin did in Alaska. At that point, it's just a cult following she builds around herself, substituting familiarity for competence. See the difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 98B367 Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Politics 101: Lesson One; When politicians at all levels of government get elected, they bring in their people as part of their administration. Previous administration personnel are typically let go or re-assigned. Of course a Mayor, Governor, President wants people in positions of authority within their administration they can trust and have confidence in. If you don't understand this then you're either naive or stupid. Is it too much to ask that those appointed at the very least be qualified for the position? Remember Brownie and FEMA among others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Turns out that Sarah Palin has training in economics . . . . Well, she had some economics classes in college . . . . Well, actually she had one economics class in college . . . . She got a D. http://healthlaw.newsvine.com/_news/2008/0...s-canada-my-ass http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/9/15/13915/9719 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 I love it when people who think they know a lot call other people stupid.It's OK to bring in a long-time friend or two if they're qualified. Clinton had a friend he had known from kindergarten as one of his closest advisers. But when someone's administration looks like their high school yearbook, there's a problem. That's what Palin did in Alaska. At that point, it's just a cult following she builds around herself, substituting familiarity for competence. See the difference? Do you realize you're babbling incoherently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Do you realize you're babbling incoherently? It was perfectly coherent, and true. But since you have trouble understanding simple sentences, I'll make it easier for you. If an elected official hires 1 or 2 old friends because they are qualified and he trusts them, that's OK. When an elected official hires 10 or 20 old friends, it tells you they're being hired for the wrong reasons. It also says a lot about the person doing the hiring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Sarah Palin was for the investigation into Troopergate before she was against it. She used to say that it was a legitimate inquiry that she welcomed. Legislators, both Republican and Democrat, voted 14-0 to authorize it. That was before she became McPain’s – oops, I mean McCain’s VP pick. Now suddenly, her handlers are having her say Troopergate is partisan and refusing to let her cooperate. So the questions that will dog her until McPain go down in blazing defeat in November are: What is she hiding? Why are McPain campaign officials getting involved in an Alaska state investigation? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26727937/ http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/15/205829/492 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/15/p...t_n_126689.html http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qi...16103757AAP2zv6 http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/ne...t_id=1003846562 http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politi...n_camp_tri.html http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_(...tof=6&frt=2 http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/16/pal...tion/index.html Thank goodness the non-partisan Republicans in the McCain campaign have come forward to put a stop to this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 The stonewalling of Troopergate is building into a major story. In addition to the dozen or so operatives McCain has sent to Alaska to stop the investigation, now the McCain campaign has hired a top prosecutor of terrorists away from his job to help them. In other words, the McCain campaign thinks that burying this investigation is more important than prosecuting terrorism! So much for putting country first! There must be one hell of a scandal in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 Sarah’s new name, the one people will remember: SnowJob SquareGlasses http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/20/opinion/20blow.html?hp http://www.flickr.com/photos/earthpro/2872451370/ http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/...enthusiasm_for/ http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/20/14923/0721 Hilarious! Couldn’t happen to a more deserving flat-earth wingnut. She’s going down! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 Palin has gotten caught lying about why she fired Alaska state public safety chief Monegan in Troopergate. http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id...4710&page=1 She's going down in flames! If McCain keeps her, he'll go down with her. So what will it be, Senator McCain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2smart4u Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 Palin has gotten caught lying about why she fired Alaska state public safety chief Monegan in Troopergate.http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id...4710&page=1 She's going down in flames! If McCain keeps her, he'll go down with her. So what will it be, Senator McCain? As soon as our next president responds, please let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest *Autonomous* Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 As soon as our next president responds, please let me know. Translation: McCain hasn't told me what to think yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 As soon as our next president responds, please let me know. So now you're interested in listening to Obabma? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest steve Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 "someone so totally unprepared"? Sounds more like you're talking about Obama; 144 days in the Senate, no executive experience. The most inexperienced candidate for President in the history of the U.S. But he's black and has a nice smile so the Loonies give him a pass. What a farce. The lovely Guliani said this same thing about McCain (then switched to Obama). Let's face it people, we have an average woman and a man who has back tracked on his opposition to Bush as well as his independent streak to back a failing administration as well as tow the party line. Why? It seems to me that McCain will do whatever is needed to win this election. What else will he compromise? Lieberman was his choice for VP and now Palin? She really wasn't a very good Gov, was she? She abused her power as Mayor and Gov and is now using GOP rhetoric to act as if she is one of us. Please, if Obama had a 17yo daughter who was preggie with her bf then all you conservatives would be up in arms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest steve Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 As soon as our next president responds, please let me know. He has, several times. Check out his web site www.barackobama.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 Today Laura Bush admitted that Palin has no foreign policy experience. There is also footage of Palin's witch-hunting pastor laying hands on her and casting out "all forms of witchcraft." Did he see the irony, not to mention that she stood right there with her eyes closed, deep in prayer apparently, going along with it. Oh, and then there's the breaking story about how McCain tried to cancel this Friday's presidential debate. Many people think his real agenda is to cancel the vice presidential debate altogether. It's obvious the McCain campaign doesn't want Palin to have to speak on her own. Now that they've gotten to know her, they're asking themselves, "Oh my God, what have we done?!" She's going down and so is he! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 So we said "thanks, but no thanks" to that wacko from Alaska. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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