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Wrong, pinhead. Saddam was an ally of al Qaeda, he gave them safe haven in

Iraq. You won't read that in the NY Slimes or other Loony Left gossip pages.

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Actually, Bin Laden hated Hussein more than he hated us. There has never been any credible intelligence that says otherwise. In fact, Hussein himself said it in an interview after he was captured. There was a report circulating on the internet that members of the Iraqi Security Forces met with Mohammad Atta, but this also was proven to be wrong.

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Forget the partisan bullshit. This is about removing our precious troops (don't forget that there are PEOPLE behind those guns of ours) from harm's way when there is no good reason for them to be there.

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Aren't you patronizing toward the troops? They are in harm;s way, because they volunteered. We could not have a war if they did not.

If they don't like the war or their situation there, they are quite capable of getting out by themselves: voting with their boots. Don't sign up or re-up.

They don't need you or me or any other civilian to pontificate on their wants or needs. They are grown people who are capable of making their own decisions.

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Excuse me? Solution: Bring the troops home.

Our occupation of Iraq has not done anything but make terrorism worse and more widespread. Iraq never attacked us. We deposed Saddam Hussein, a known ENEMY OF AL QAEDA, WHICH IS THE GROUP THAT ACTUALLY ATTACKED US. And to add insult to injury, we have stopped hunting the man who orchestrated the 9/11 attacks! The cherry on top is that we have lost most, if not all, of the respect of pretty much all of our allies.

It's time to cut our losses. The Iraq invasion was clearly a blunder, and asking our MILITARY to establish a democracy in a country too wrapped up in its own sectarian violence to be concerned with any kind of real lasting peace is absurd! That is not our troops' job! If the Iraqis are unwilling or unable to come together as a whole, then we're stymied. Can't you people understand that?

Forget the partisan bullshit. This is about removing our precious troops (don't forget that there are PEOPLE behind those guns of ours) from harm's way when there is no good reason for them to be there.

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Once again, Strife makes rediculous assertions on subjects that he has no

knowledge of. (The Loony Left bloggers don't count as knowledge).

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"triuth", "learnong", "somethinf" ?? I hope you weren't my student.

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This post is hilariously ironic. :rolleyes:

All of the above mistakes are clearly simple typos (in all three cases, the extra/wrong letter is adjacent to the correct one on the keyboard), not to mention that someone who doesn't know that there's not supposed to be a space between the end of the sentence and its punctuation shouldn't be criticizing anyone else's grammar. From the day I learned how to write, I never, ever made that mistake. So what's your excuse, "teacher"?

IF indeed you are a teacher, then all the more reason you shouldn't be making such elementary mistakes in your own writing. Two question marks? That extra space? If that's what you teach your students in English, you ought to be let go for incompetence.

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Aren't you patronizing toward the troops? They are in harm;s way, because they volunteered. We could not have a war if they did not.

If they don't like the war or their situation there, they are quite capable of getting out by themselves: voting with their boots. Don't sign up or re-up.

They don't need you or me or any other civilian to pontificate on their wants or needs. They are grown people who are capable of making their own decisions.

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Your point would be more valid if Bush hasn't been lying his ass off constantly, making signing up sound like a better idea than it actually was/is. In an environment where the justifications for military action are completely honest, your argument makes perfect sense, however.

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Gee, color me embarassed. I never thought of it that way. Thank Allah for George W. Bush. Idiot.

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I'd be better off coloring you nicotine yellow and tar black.

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Double question marks preceded by a space? Pretending that what are obviously typos are an indication of low intelligence or poor education? I hope that you are lying about ever having been a teacher.

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Who else do we know that does that? Hmmmm...

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Aren't you patronizing toward the troops? They are in harm;s way, because they volunteered. We could not have a war if they did not.

If they don't like the war or their situation there, they are quite capable of getting out by themselves: voting with their boots. Don't sign up or re-up.

They don't need you or me or any other civilian to pontificate on their wants or needs. They are grown people who are capable of making their own decisions.

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The callousness in this is disgusting. Soldiers are still human beings with parents, spouses, children, friends, etc., and lives of their own. Every one of their lives is precious. Those lives are not to be sacrificed for profit, political gain or one man's stubbornness.

As for having a war, of course we could. We could have re-instated the draft, and we would have if this "war" was as important and Bush tried to make it seem. But he knew the American people would have balked. We've become a nation of hypocrites, cowards and idiots.

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Once again, Strife makes rediculous assertions on subjects that he has no

  knowledge of. (The Loony Left bloggers don't count as knowledge).

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I love how this knucklehead talks about what other people supposedly don't know.

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I love how this knucklehead talks about what other people supposedly don't know.

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Well, PatRat has proven time after time he's too stupid to know what he doesn't know.

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Your point would be more valid if Bush hasn't been lying his ass off constantly, making signing up sound like a better idea than it actually was/is. In an environment where the justifications for military action are completely honest, your argument makes perfect sense, however.

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Yes, Bush and the adminstration did lie their asses off. And those who were in the military when the war started had no choice.

But at this point, anyone signing up should know better. Read the papers, pay attention, be politically aware. They are citizens and should act responsibly.

"I just want you to know that, when we talk about war, we're really talking about peace." - George W. Bush, June 18, 2002

"War is Peace" - Big Brother 1984, George Orwell

"If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." - James Madison

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The callousness in this is disgusting. Soldiers are still human beings with parents, spouses, children, friends, etc., and lives of their own. Every one of their lives is precious. Those lives are not to be sacrificed for profit, political gain or one man's stubbornness.

As for having a war, of course we could. We could have re-instated the draft, and we would have if this "war" was as important and Bush tried to make it seem. But he knew the American people would have balked. We've become a nation of hypocrites, cowards and idiots.

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Nothing callous about it. What's preventing them from standing up and voting with their feet?

Even the current JCS Chairman said the same thing at an officer's meeting. They questioned the conduct of the war and he said we have to do our best but they have the right to vote with their feet; that is get out.

"It is critical that the military remain apolitical and under civilian control. If unable to carry out orders, officers should "vote with our feet and leave," he said." - Mullen JCS Chairman.

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The callousness in this is disgusting. Soldiers are still human beings with parents, spouses, children, friends, etc., and lives of their own. Every one of their lives is precious. Those lives are not to be sacrificed for profit, political gain or one man's stubbornness.

As for having a war, of course we could. We could have re-instated the draft, and we would have if this "war" was as important and Bush tried to make it seem. But he knew the American people would have balked. We've become a nation of hypocrites, cowards and idiots.

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"hypocrites, cowards and idiots" ? Which one are you ?

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Yeah, I've already been just about convinced "2smart4u" and "Patriot" are sockpuppets of the same troll--this is just another 'eccentricity' common to the two of them (and no one else) to add to the pile.

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No one else?

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http://forums.kearnyontheweb.com/index.php...indpost&p=39899

http://forums.kearnyontheweb.com/index.php...findpost&p=9806

Exaggerating, Strife? Or just wrong again?

:rolleyes:

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"hypocrites, cowards and idiots" ?  Which one are you ?

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You don't think. You just react.

A nation of hypocrites. That's obvious, with the USA proclaiming our great democratic values (but invading other countries to plunder their wealth on false pretexts when it suits us - new behavior? hardly) and putting yellow ribbons on our SUVs.

A nation of cowards. We're insulated from the trouble. The trains run on time, but who cares because we're not riding them; we're driving our cars, which hardly ever break down any more. Life in the USA is very, very good, even for many people below the official poverty line. In historical context, even they live pretty well. So we ignore the trouble. Our soldiers are at war. We're shopping.

A nation of idiots. People get stupid when things get that good. As a nation, we have essentially told our politicians that if they tell us the truth we won't vote for them. See Thomas Friedman's editorial in the NY Times yesterday. There was a link to it on one of the topics. And of course the politicians go along, which makes them cowards who talk like idiots.

There are no leaders in the USA, and no statesmen. Something very bad has happened, and we must do something about it if we plan not to be the next great nation that got too fat for its own good and declined. 2dim isn't capable of understanding it (and there are millions just like him), so it's up to the rest of us.

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Sadly, "at this point," many of those people you just described in that second sentence are already dead.

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Many say "God bless America or the God Bless the Troops". But the divine power does not keep the troops from harm. There is natural selection or survival of the fittest and it is inexorable.

They volunteered and there is no free lunch.

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You don't think. You just react.

A nation of hypocrites. That's obvious, with the USA proclaiming our great democratic values (but invading other countries to plunder their wealth on false pretexts when it suits us - new behavior? hardly) and putting yellow ribbons on our SUVs.

A nation of cowards. We're insulated from the trouble. The trains run on time, but who cares because we're not riding them; we're driving our cars, which hardly ever break down any more. Life in the USA is very, very good, even for many people below the official poverty line. In historical context, even they live pretty well. So we ignore the trouble. Our soldiers are at war. We're shopping.

A nation of idiots. People get stupid when things get that good. As a nation, we have essentially told our politicians that if they tell us the truth we won't vote for them. See Thomas Friedman's editorial in the NY Times yesterday. There was a link to it on one of the topics. And of course the politicians go along, which makes them cowards who talk like idiots.

There are no leaders in the USA, and no statesmen. Something very bad has happened, and we must do something about it if we plan not to be the next great nation that got too fat for its own good and declined. 2dim isn't capable of understanding it (and there are millions just like him), so it's up to the rest of us.

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You need some professional help, you're a sick puppy.

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