Bern Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 What was the supposed lie? Working from the CIA's conclusions as if those conclusions were correct? The lie is that the CIA's conclusions were deliberately misrepresented. The CIA directorates did get the applicable correct intelligence but then it was filtered by Bush admin hacks to justify the war. A lot of the filtering and adjusting of data was done by the Pentagon special plans office. It got so bad that there were mass resignations from the Directorate of Operations and the Middle East Analysis desk. Even after the war started, the CIA Iraq station chief sent back intelligence which was still misrepresented causing him to resign. Patriotic retired CIA officers have brought a lot of these misdeeds into the open. There's also the Downing memo from the head of British foreign intelligence which stated "that President Bush wanted to topple Saddam Hussein by military action and warned that in Washington intelligence was being fixed around the policy". The main problem was that Tenet did not stand up for the CIA. But he got a class 1 medal and a very nice book deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2smart4u Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 I bet you could find a way to blame the repsonse to hurricane Katrina on Clinton as well? Talk about living in the past. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You're right. The Army Corp Of Engineers warned Clinton about the condition of the levees. He did nothing. I read where he told the engineers; "don't bother me with this trivial stuff, I have an intern under my desk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Keith-Marshall,Mo Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 What was the supposed lie? Working from the CIA's conclusions as if those conclusions were correct?So you don't accept the Keynesian justification? Why not? Citation? ... so the Medicare prescription benefit is supposedly not beneficial, and neither was the "No Child Left Behind" legislation (see Ted Kennedy). Secret government of what, and what were the supposedly secret actions of the secret government? Or are they still so secret that you cannot discuss them? Absolutely no justification? Can you justify that claim? Where did they express an intention never to capture bin Laden? Or did you mistype? Citation? Clearly Bush prefers justices with originalist leanings, but that's no different than the types of preferences presidents have demonstrated over the past 100 years or so. It should arguably be a basic qualification for placement on a federal bench (otherwise the judge does not interpret the law but instead effectively writes the law). And you can name one. No, really. 10. Destroying our international standing in the world. Might as well include a few plainly legal scandals. 11. Squandering a budget surplus to give more money to their rich friends and allies. Sounds like you don't understand how the tax system works. Either that or you're making your charge on the basis of socialist presuppositions. 12. Holding an entire country hostage to the narrow interests of a privileged few. 2smart may be right about you. 13. Conducting a phony "war on terror" while the real threats go unaddressed. Yeah, just little stuff. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If those are scandals, then the list of scandals for every other president just tripled, making the Bush administration look all the better by relative comparison. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If you'll remember then head of the CIA George Tennant has said as of late that he knew it was all bullshit but didn't want to say anything public because he wanted to "change things from the inside". Of course know that he's a private citizen and has a book to sell he'll scream if from the highest mountain top. Just another Bush lackey yet look where we are today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KearnyKard Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 You're right. The Army Corp Of Engineers warned Clinton about the condition of the levees. He did nothing. I read where he told the engineers; "don't bother me with this trivial stuff, I have an intern under my desk. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> LMFAO !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 I told the Kool-Aid company. They said you were paranoid. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 The lie is that the CIA's conclusions were deliberately misrepresented. The CIA directorates did get the applicable correct intelligence but then it was filtered by Bush admin hacks to justify the war. A lot of the filtering and adjusting of data was done by the Pentagon special plans office. You seem to have filtered all of the evidence out of your reply. It got so bad that there were mass resignations from the Directorate of Operations and the Middle East Analysis desk. Even after the war started, the CIA Iraq station chief sent back intelligence which was still misrepresented causing him to resign. You forgot your citation. Patriotic retired CIA officers have brought a lot of these misdeeds into the open. There's also the Downing memo from the head of British foreign intelligence which stated "that President Bush wanted to topple Saddam Hussein by military action and warned that in Washington intelligence was being fixed around the policy". You seem to have flubbed up your quotation (while also forgetting the citation). If you had moved to provide a citation, then perhaps you wouldn't have made that mistake. The main problem was that Tenet did not stand up for the CIA. But he got a class 1 medal and a very nice book deal. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Why didn't that Clinton appointee do a better job, IYO? http://www.onpointradio.org/shows/2004/06/...0603_a_main.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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