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Dear "Anonymous"

I reject your distorted characterization of my impromptu speech.  It's easy enough for anyone who cares to hear what I actually said to listen the the audio that's available. 

(If you want to go ahead and transcribe it and quote directly from a posted verifiable transcription, I'll be happy to defend my extemporaneous remarks against your premeditated "best shot".....and if I've said anything which, after consideration I thought was actually wrong....I would acknowledge the error.  None of us is perfect.  We all err and we all sin.)

You folks that defend this "teacher" seem to be incapable of dealing with the concrete objective reality of the existing world. 

My words were/are on record...just as the class and the meeting Matthew recorded are on record; yet you insist on doing to me what you did to Matthew....and that is to mis-characterize/distort/pervert an AUDIO RECORDING that is what it is.

I invite/urge anyone who is tempted to lend any credence to your distorted sense of what I said to listen to the audio.

Further, if anyone cares to dispute or argue with my posts/comments on BlueJersey.net I welcome you doing so at that site and please, do your best. 

I look forward to an on the record/civil discussion with any one of you.  We might learn from each other!  Wouldn't that be cool!

PS As for the color of my soul...I am content to leave that Judgment to the Eyes of Jesus Christ, your subjective/anonymous opinion is worth much less than His, eh?

Nick Lento

These KHS threads are a magnet for the fire and brimstone crowd. LOL.

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*chuckles* I very much agree. Watching that portion of the session unfold in person was both ammusing and slightly distressing.

This time Mr. Pinho missed a wonderful show. The guy from Cliffside Park (the one that many of the LaClair supporters bragged about being so wonderful) was out of control, made a fool out of himself. He lost it, insulted the board members and had the honor of being escorted out by the police officer present at the request of the board president.

I guess there is not much action going on in Cliffside Park.

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Thank you for sharing this.

Has the Christian side's teacher done 'anything 'wrong' in the classroom since the school board met with him and set him straight as to 'not preach' in class or else you'll be in trouble again? If not, then the student and his group should put the matter to rest.

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Has the Christian side's teacher done 'anything 'wrong' in the classroom since the school board met with him and set him straight as to 'not preach' in class or else you'll be in trouble again?    If not, then the student and his group should put the matter to rest.

Has the drug dealer stopped selling drugs on the corner since he was caught dealing and told by the police that he shouldn't deal on the corner?

Is that a defense?

A: No.

Mr. P was preaching in class in any other town he would have been suspended (minimum punishment) or fired outright. Only in Hudson County does politics twist a simple straight forward decision into the mess we have now.

How much has Lindefelser and the other attorney billed to date?

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Has the drug dealer stopped selling drugs on the corner since he was caught dealing and told by the police that he shouldn't deal on the corner?

Is that a defense?

A: No.

Mr. P was preaching in class in any other town he would have been suspended (minimum punishment) or fired outright.  Only in Hudson County does politics twist a simple straight forward decision into the mess we have now.

How much has Lindefelser and the other attorney billed to date?

Suspended ? Fired ? He should be given a bonus.

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Has the Christian side's teacher done 'anything 'wrong' in the classroom since the school board met with him and set him straight as to 'not preach' in class or else you'll be in trouble again?    If not, then the student and his group should put the matter to rest.

Yes, he has. Details may follow.

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*chuckles* I very much agree. Watching that portion of the session unfold in person was both ammusing and slightly distressing.

This time Mr. Pinho missed a wonderful show. The guy from Cliffside Park (the one that many of the LaClair supporters bragged about being so wonderful) was out of control, made a fool out of himself.

He wanted to read the last three paragraphs of his prepared notes. Wow, that is truly utter chaos. HE'S OUT OF CONTROL! lol, please.

He lost it, insulted the board members and had the honor of being escorted out by the police officer present at the request of the board president.

Uh, if by "escorted out" you mean the cop walked up behind him, tapped him on the shoulder, then Lento nodded and sat down, 'cause that's how it happened. He's a MADMAN, I tell you! :excl:

Not surprised the apologist crowd has already began distorting the events of the most recent Board meeting. It's sad, really.

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Has the Christian side's teacher done 'anything 'wrong' in the classroom since the school board met with him and set him straight as to 'not preach' in class or else you'll be in trouble again?    If not, then the student and his group should put the matter to rest.

So he leaps over the line of what he's allowed to do, blatantly lies about it, and you think that it's enough to say "don't do it again" even though there is both evidence that this has been standard fare for years and years, AND there is absence of any real public apology OR correction of his erroneous statements?!

You are out of your mind, sir.

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Dear "Anonymous"

I reject your distorted characterization of my impromptu speech.  It's easy enough for anyone who cares to hear what I actually said to listen the the audio that's available. 

(If you want to go ahead and transcribe it and quote directly from a posted verifiable transcription, I'll be happy to defend my extemporaneous remarks against your premeditated "best shot".....and if I've said anything which, after consideration I thought was actually wrong....I would acknowledge the error.  None of us is perfect.  We all err and we all sin.)

You folks that defend this "teacher" seem to be incapable of dealing with the concrete objective reality of the existing world. 

My words were/are on record...just as the class and the meeting Matthew recorded are on record; yet you insist on doing to me what you did to Matthew....and that is to mis-characterize/distort/pervert an AUDIO RECORDING that is what it is.

I invite/urge anyone who is tempted to lend any credence to your distorted sense of what I said to listen to the audio.

Further, if anyone cares to dispute or argue with my posts/comments on BlueJersey.net I welcome you doing so at that site and please, do your best. 

I look forward to an on the record/civil discussion with any one of you.  We might learn from each other!  Wouldn't that be cool!

PS As for the color of my soul...I am content to leave that Judgment to the Eyes of Jesus Christ, your subjective/anonymous opinion is worth much less than His, eh?

Nick Lento

You know what Mr. Lento? On the next board meeting, make sure you speak again. It was fun to hear you speaking, you and Mr. Pinho can take turns being the clowns of this circus! We will just make sure that the police officer is there again! :excl:

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*chuckles* I very much agree. Watching that portion of the session unfold in person was both ammusing and slightly distressing.

This time Mr. Pinho missed a wonderful show. The guy from Cliffside Park (the one that many of the LaClair supporters bragged about being so wonderful) was out of control, made a fool out of himself. He lost it, insulted the board members and had the honor of being escorted out by the police officer present at the request of the board president.

I guess there is not much action going on in Cliffside Park.

Probably not, so he had to come here. But I have to admit, it was funny! Next time, I'm bringing popcorn!

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So he leaps over the line of what he's allowed to do, blatantly lies about it, and you think that it's enough to say "don't do it again" even though there is both evidence that this has been standard fare for years and years, AND there is absence of any real public apology OR correction of his erroneous statements?!

You are out of your mind, sir.

since the teacher is covered by a union contrat, the matter was taken care of by the school board. He was given a warning not to let it happen again or else he'd be suspended. etc. Since it hasn't happened again, there are other issues to be dealth with in town and at the school. The St Clairs' feel that they are 'better' citizens and more caring of their fellow-man than the teacher. Well, it is time for them to put the matter to rest, if it is nor re-occurring and think of their fellow neighbors and Ky citizens, who need other matters taken care of by the town and see that the taxpayers hard-eaned money in a low-income, blue-collar town is well spent and not wasted.

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since the teacher is covered by a union contrat, the matter was taken care of by the school board.  He was given a warning  not to let it happen again or else he'd be suspended. etc.  Since it hasn't happened again, there are other issues to be dealth with in town and at the school.  The St Clairs' feel that they are 'better' citizens and more caring of their fellow-man than the teacher.  Well, it is time for them to put the matter to rest, if it is nor re-occurring and think of their fellow neighbors  and Ky citizens, who need other matters taken care of by the town and see that the taxpayers hard-eaned money in a low-income, blue-collar town is well spent and not wasted.

I disagree. Some people aren't getting the issue. The LaClairs have asked repeatedly for quality control (teacher education) and correction of inappropriate comments (student education). So far, the school has not done either of those. To my understanding, that is why the LaClairs continue to wage this battle, and why people support them. They are right. Until teacher and student education are done, the message is that teachers can get away with this behavior, which will just be ignored most of the time. If you want to argue that point, that's fine, but what you're doing here is ignoring the issue.

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*chuckles* I very much agree. Watching that portion of the session unfold in person was both ammusing and slightly distressing.

This time Mr. Pinho missed a wonderful show. The guy from Cliffside Park (the one that many of the LaClair supporters bragged about being so wonderful) was out of control, made a fool out of himself. He lost it, insulted the board members and had the honor of being escorted out by the police officer present at the request of the board president.

I guess there is not much action going on in Cliffside Park.

So now you're talking about LeClair supporters being mad? What would you call the parents who forced their six year-old children to march around the room with 'Jesus Saves' posters and deliberately disrupt any LeClair supporter who was trying to speak? You are so hypocritical it makes me sick.

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since the teacher is covered by a union contrat, the matter was taken care of by the school board.  He was given a warning  not to let it happen again or else he'd be suspended. etc.  Since it hasn't happened again, there are other issues to be dealth with in town and at the school.  The St Clairs' feel that they are 'better' citizens and more caring of their fellow-man than the teacher.  Well, it is time for them to put the matter to rest, if it is nor re-occurring and think of their fellow neighbors  and Ky citizens, who need other matters taken care of by the town and see that the taxpayers hard-eaned money in a low-income, blue-collar town is well spent and not wasted.

And where would you like this money to go instead? Perhaps to build another church that doesn't have to pay taxes itself? I think justice is as good a cause as any to put tax money into, much more so than some crackpot christian fund or society. When the catholic church starts paying its own taxes, then you will have a right to speak about tax money. Until then, have a little humility.

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So now you're talking about LeClair supporters being mad?  What would you call the parents who forced their six year-old children to march around the room with 'Jesus Saves' posters and deliberately disrupt any LeClair supporter who was trying to speak?  You are so hypocritical it makes me sick.

I call it "You were not at the meeting" any LaClair's supporters? Are you crazy? No one interrupted, the only thing they did was raise the signs when Paul LaClair was speaking. Why? I don't know, but it doesn't matter because they had the right to do so.., 7, 8, 9, 10 year olds have freedom of speech...they can bring whatever they want. I guess. they did learn something from Matt LaClair's "love" for his freedom of speech...lol!

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