Disgraceful Defeatocrats

[Guest Patriot]

"MoveOn.org, the Kool-aid drinking loony left organization has put a full-page

ad in the N.Y. Slimes. The ad shows a large picture of General Petraeus with

the large print reading, "General Petraeus OR Betray Us".

This is the latest example of how low the radical left has sunk; in a time of war

to suggest our top general is betraying the american public.

Hilliary and Obama are silent, they won't denounce the ad because they're

afraid of MoveOn., just the kind of courage you want in a presidential candidate.

This ad was a bad move by the defeatocrats, more and more people are being

turned off by the venom being spewed by the radical left.

[Guest Guest]

"MoveOn.org, the Kool-aid drinking loony left organization has put a full-page

  ad in the N.Y. Slimes.  The ad shows a large picture of General Petraeus with

  the large print reading, "General Petraeus  OR  Betray Us".

    This is the latest example of how low the radical left has sunk; in a time of war

  to suggest our top general is betraying the american public.

    Hilliary and Obama are silent, they won't denounce the ad because they're

  afraid of MoveOn., just the kind of courage you want in a presidential candidate.

    This ad was a bad move by the defeatocrats, more and more people are being

  turned off by the venom being spewed by the radical left.

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Great, why don't you strap on some body armor (if you can find any) and haul YOUR ASS off to Baghdad? This poor General has been put in an impossible situation and this impossible administration sure as hell isn't gonna help him out. He can do nothing but tow the party line so that GW can dump his mistake on the next poor bastard that comes in behind him. Once again someone else has to clean up after GW. Why don't you crawl back into you FOX box and let the grown ups talk.

[Guest Radagast]

"MoveOn.org, the Kool-aid drinking loony left organization has put a full-page

  ad in the N.Y. Slimes.  The ad shows a large picture of General Petraeus with

  the large print reading, "General Petraeus  OR  Betray Us".

    This is the latest example of how low the radical left has sunk; in a time of war

  to suggest our top general is betraying the american public.

    Hilliary and Obama are silent, they won't denounce the ad because they're

  afraid of MoveOn., just the kind of courage you want in a presidential candidate.

    This ad was a bad move by the defeatocrats, more and more people are being

  turned off by the venom being spewed by the radical left.

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The answer is ... he betrayed us. He is bought and paid for by George W. Bush. As Gen. Fallon said, he is a Kiss Ass.

[Guest Guest]

The answer is ... he betrayed us. He is bought and paid for by George W. Bush. As Gen. Fallon said, he is a Kiss Ass.

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Defnded by Pat Rat, the D**bA**

[Bern]

The answer is ... he betrayed us. He is bought and paid for by George W. Bush. As Gen. Fallon said, he is a Kiss Ass.

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Sen. Warner asked: "Does the [iraq war] make America safer?"

Petraeus replied,"I don't know, actually. I have not sat down and sorted in my own mind."

I think Petraeus is honest and doing his best under these difficult conditions. He will not say the Iraqi adventure has made us safer, something the Bush Admin would love to hear.

He also says the surge helps. It does if you look at his point of view. He and every military commander knows there are not enough troops, so the surge has helped with that. It gives some relief to the troops currently there.

I believe in his heart he has serious doubts but if he were to tell congress that the Iraq invasion has made us less safe, he'd have to resign. Its gotten ridiculous. We've been at war for 4 years and Petraeus is the fourth or fifth supreme military commander of Iraq. Plus all the Pentagon changes. Its not normal.

During WW II, we didn't see Roosevelt replacing his generals every year. Eisenhower remained, McArthur remained, Nimitz remained, King remained, and Marshall remained. They served during the whole war. This war, which we are told is the pivotal conflict of all time, has become the senior military revolving door.

The pivotal conflict of all time. The joke is you will never see any of the young Bushies serving in this pivotal conflict.

[Guest Patriot]

Great, why don't you strap on some body armor (if you can find any) and haul YOUR ASS off to Baghdad? This poor General has been put in an impossible situation and this impossible administration sure as hell isn't gonna help him out. He can do nothing but tow the party line so that GW can dump his mistake on the next poor bastard that comes in behind him. Once again someone else has to clean up after GW. Why don't you crawl back into you FOX box and let the grown ups talk.

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HUH !!?? This has what to do with MoveOn ??

[Guest 2smart4u]

"MoveOn.org, the Kool-aid drinking loony left organization has put a full-page

  ad in the N.Y. Slimes.  The ad shows a large picture of General Petraeus with

  the large print reading, "General Petraeus  OR  Betray Us".

    This is the latest example of how low the radical left has sunk; in a time of war

  to suggest our top general is betraying the american public.

    Hilliary and Obama are silent, they won't denounce the ad because they're

  afraid of MoveOn., just the kind of courage you want in a presidential candidate.

    This ad was a bad move by the defeatocrats, more and more people are being

  turned off by the venom being spewed by the radical left.

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Interesting how no one on this forum has stepped forward to condemn

MoveOn and the NY Slimes as you have. That's a sad commentary on the U.S.

Giuliani has condemned the ad, Hilliary and Obama are hiding under their beds.

[Guest 2smart4u]

"MoveOn.org, the Kool-aid drinking loony left organization has put a full-page

  ad in the N.Y. Slimes.  The ad shows a large picture of General Petraeus with

  the large print reading, "General Petraeus  OR  Betray Us".

    This is the latest example of how low the radical left has sunk; in a time of war

  to suggest our top general is betraying the american public.

    Hilliary and Obama are silent, they won't denounce the ad because they're

  afraid of MoveOn., just the kind of courage you want in a presidential candidate.

    This ad was a bad move by the defeatocrats, more and more people are being

  turned off by the venom being spewed by the radical left.

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"just the kind of courage you want in a presidential candidate". Hilliary and

Obama's silence on this ad shows how fearful they are of MoveOn. Beware

of any presidential candidate that won't stand up and be counted when anyone

accuses a general of betraying the U.S. BTW, Giuliani paid for his own ad

denouncing MoveOn and their disgusting ad.

[Bern]

"just the kind of courage you want in a presidential candidate".  Hilliary and

  Obama's silence on this ad shows how fearful they are of MoveOn. Beware

  of any presidential candidate that won't stand up and be counted when anyone

  accuses a general of betraying the U.S.  BTW, Giuliani paid for his own ad

  denouncing MoveOn and their disgusting ad.

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He can afford it. He's worth about 50 million. Money made of the backs of people like you.

[Guest Guest]

"just the kind of courage you want in a presidential candidate".  Hilliary and

  Obama's silence on this ad shows how fearful they are of MoveOn. Beware

  of any presidential candidate that won't stand up and be counted when anyone

  accuses a general of betraying the U.S.  BTW, Giuliani paid for his own ad

  denouncing MoveOn and their disgusting ad.

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Never mind that MoveOn.org is right. To right-wing extremists the facts don't matter.

[Guest Guest]

"MoveOn.org, the Kool-aid drinking loony left organization has put a full-page

  ad in the N.Y. Slimes.  The ad shows a large picture of General Petraeus with

  the large print reading, "General Petraeus  OR  Betray Us".

    This is the latest example of how low the radical left has sunk; in a time of war

  to suggest our top general is betraying the american public.

    Hilliary and Obama are silent, they won't denounce the ad because they're

  afraid of MoveOn., just the kind of courage you want in a presidential candidate.

    This ad was a bad move by the defeatocrats, more and more people are being

  turned off by the venom being spewed by the radical left.

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Ah, the great general who when head of training the Iraqi forces gave glowing reports of the progress being made. If there really was progress, surely having more time since major combat ended than all of WWII took, the Iraqis would be able to take care of their own business by now.

Tasteless as the ad may be it doesn't compare to the tastelessness of false reports. If anyone doesn't believe a general would monkey with the truth I suggest researching William Westmoreland, a truly accomplished manipulator of the truth, may he rot in hell.

[Guest Senior Kearny Resident]

"just the kind of courage you want in a presidential candidate".  Hilliary and

  Obama's silence on this ad shows how fearful they are of MoveOn. Beware

  of any presidential candidate that won't stand up and be counted when anyone

  accuses a general of betraying the U.S.  BTW, Giuliani paid for his own ad

  denouncing MoveOn and their disgusting ad.

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It will take more than a lack of courage to get the LoonyLeft to reject Hilliary or

Obama. That's what makes them Loony.

[Guest Keith,Marshall,Mo]

Ah, the great general who when head of training the Iraqi forces gave glowing reports of the progress being made.  If there really was progress, surely having more time since major combat ended than all of WWII took, the Iraqis would be able to take care of their own business by now.

Tasteless as the ad may be it doesn't compare to the tastelessness of false reports.  If anyone doesn't believe a general would monkey with the truth I suggest researching William Westmoreland, a truly accomplished manipulator of the truth, may he rot in hell.

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Amen Brother! Seems to many people here are fascinated by the idea of war, yet none of them are stuck in the middle of it. Sick bastards.

[Guest Patriot]

Ah, the great general who when head of training the Iraqi forces gave glowing reports of the progress being made.  If there really was progress, surely having more time since major combat ended than all of WWII took, the Iraqis would be able to take care of their own business by now.

Tasteless as the ad may be it doesn't compare to the tastelessness of false reports.  If anyone doesn't believe a general would monkey with the truth I suggest researching William Westmoreland, a truly accomplished manipulator of the truth, may he rot in hell.

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"may he rot in hell"..... another fine example of a Kool-aid drinking LoonyLefty.

The military protects cupcake dirt bags like this so he can hide under his

bed with his computer.

[Guest Guest]

"just the kind of courage you want in a presidential candidate".  Hilliary and

  Obama's silence on this ad shows how fearful they are of MoveOn. Beware

  of any presidential candidate that won't stand up and be counted when anyone

  accuses a general of betraying the U.S.  BTW, Giuliani paid for his own ad

  denouncing MoveOn and their disgusting ad.

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You're so right! It WOULD take a lot of courage for a candidate to speak out agaonst an AD. After all, they'd be speaking against a Constitutional Right, sounds like something more in the Shrub's line of thought, that is if thought of any kind can be attributed to The Shrub.

And it must have been a real challenge for Rudy to pay for hos own ad, he on;y makes a $100,000 a speech or more since making a personal industry speaking about 9/11. Too bad he wasn't there for the rescue workers when they needed him, I gue$$ he didn't feel they were worth his time.

[Strife767]

Interesting how no one on this forum has stepped forward to condemn 

  MoveOn and the NY Slimes as you have.

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Talking to yourself again?

[Guest peace & love]

What will the loons do when Hillary is president and the troops are still in Iraq. This was the mistake of the century our going into Iraq. We should only have been in afganistan hunting for binladen. This is a major screw up, big time. We are screwed. But remember this, the loons on the left can't help us and they will only hurt this great nation.

[Guest 2smart4u]

What will the loons do when Hillary is president and the troops are still in Iraq. This was the mistake of the century our going into Iraq. We should only have been in afganistan hunting for binladen. This is a major screw up, big time. We are screwed. But remember this, the loons on the left can't help us and they will only hurt this great nation.

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Kool-aid alert.

[Guest Guest]

"may he rot in hell"..... another fine example of a Kool-aid drinking LoonyLefty.

    The military protects cupcake dirt bags like this so he can hide under his

    bed with his computer.

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In case you were too damn stupid to read the news William Westmoreland was a lying POS. Your ASININE Kool-Aid remarks do NOTHING to change that FACT.

And WHAT the hell would an REMF WANKER like you know about protecting anything besides your self righteous blind faith in liars?

[Guest Guest]

What will the loons do when Hillary is president and the troops are still in Iraq. This was the mistake of the century our going into Iraq. We should only have been in afganistan hunting for binladen. This is a major screw up, big time. We are screwed. But remember this, the loons on the left can't help us and they will only hurt this great nation.

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You'd think they would've pulled their heads out of the sand by now. Even the staunch conservative Pat Buchanan has branded the Iraq invasion as one of the biggest foreign policy blunders in history.

[Guest Guest]

"may he rot in hell"..... another fine example of a Kool-aid drinking LoonyLefty.

    The military protects cupcake dirt bags like this so he can hide under his

    bed with his computer.

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That's right PattyRatty, the man lied to further his own cause while people died because of his misleadership. If you hadn't been crouching under your rack you mighta heard.

May he rot in hell for TEN ETERNITIES!

[Guest Guest]

HUH  !!??  This has what to do with MoveOn  ??

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About as much as a little twerp like you has to do with being a Patriot.

[Guest Paul]

What will the loons do when Hillary is president and the troops are still in Iraq. This was the mistake of the century our going into Iraq. We should only have been in afganistan hunting for binladen. This is a major screw up, big time. We are screwed. But remember this, the loons on the left can't help us and they will only hurt this great nation.

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This is too pessimistic a view. We must try to extricate ourselves from Iraq. One way or another, we will; when we have a president who does not labor under the misconceptions of this administration, we can begin digging our way out of the very deep hole the Bushies dug us into. It's going to be one step at a time, and no it's not going to be easy, but we must start. It's up to the people to have the sense to realize that the next president is inheriting a mess, and must be supported in taking a new approach to get us out.

Hillary Clinton is no loon. She has won grudging but nearly universal respect from her colleagues as a powerful, hard-working and distinguished Senator. She won over upstate Republicans in New York. Like her husband, she seems to be most interested in her eventual place in history, which means that she will try to do what is best for the country in the long term. That will stand in sharp contrast to the current occupant of the White House, whose main interest is in redistributing wealth in favor of his super-rich friends.

Obama is no loon either. Though short on experience at a high level, he was the first black president of the Harvard law review, no small achievement. He is obviously and extraordinarily intelligent, and also charismatic, which gives him the opportunity to challenge the nation to great things.

Edwards has disappointed me in his inability to communicate the way I know he can; however, if he wins an early primary and delivers the kind of address I've seen him deliver when he's on, he could also inspire the nation. Like the other Democrats, and perhaps more than any of them, he understands the critical importance of restoring the middle class, which has taken a beating under radical right wing rule. He would be a president of the people, but unless he jump starts his campaign with an early win, he's not going to make it.

Richardson, Biden and Dodd are all thorougly experienced, highly intelligent and superbly qualified. Any one of them would stand head and shoulders above frat boy, and would lead our country in a desperately needed new direction.

In the Congress, the radicals and the loons are mainly on the Republican side of the aisle. The pendulum has swung dangerously far to the right. It's time for it to swing back. The hope is that Democrats and other progressives won't ruin it this time, at least for a while. It seems that power always corrupts the party in power, but at least the Democrats care about ordinary people.

[Guest a proud american]

"may he rot in hell"..... another fine example of a Kool-aid drinking LoonyLefty.

    The military protects cupcake dirt bags like this so he can hide under his

    bed with his computer.

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Here is what's truly sad. And Patriot you'll remember this game from when you were in Nam. According to how the report was written, if a person is shot in front of the head its a crime. If they are shot in the back of the head it was by a terrorist. When over 400 Iraqis were killed in the terrorist bombing this summer they weren't counted because according to the report this was not considered a terrorist act since it was shiite bombing shiite.

And of the seven NCO's who wrote the truth about what is going on in Iraq, two were killed and one was shot in the head. Since as I understand it he was shot from the front side, I guess he was a victim of a crime. And I suppose you don't believe them either because after all they are actually there.

[an American in Texas]

What will the loons do when Hillary is president and the troops are still in Iraq. This was the mistake of the century our going into Iraq. We should only have been in afganistan hunting for binladen. This is a major screw up, big time. We are screwed. But remember this, the loons on the left can't help us and they will only hurt this great nation.

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Okay, let's try this out. The Left loonies are going to top these "achievements":

dragging us into a quagmire of a war by lying to us

passing tax breaks that have widened the gap between rich and poor

dismantling major pieces of the Constitution to promote an imperial presidency

tolerating and sometimes even sponsored the worst corruption since Teapot Dome

ruining our reputation for integrity throughout the world

We'd better get busy, my fellow liberals -- these five are just those I had top-of-mind, and it's a very incomplete list. It will take all of us working at breakneck speed to match the Rethuglicans' record over the last two terms.

Leigh