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Is this what this is all about, "kicking the crap out of", others and throwing insults back and forth?

They were obviously speaking in a logical context. The arguments Mr. P.'s apologists have been putting forth have been of shamefully low quality.

Or is it, rather, coming to a conclusion that is amicable to everyone and moving on?

Not necessarily. First off, nothing is amicable to EVERYONE, but that's not even what I'm talking about. What I mean is that if the evidence points distinctly toward one end, it's not a good idea to 'compromise' and concede points that contradict the evidence. That might placate the 'wrong side,' but it is counter-productive, to say the least.

I find that most posters are only here now to see what kind of rise they can get from their opponents and wll continue to do so as long as they get responses.

Tell me about it...more than one topic now has been made for the sole purpose of slinging insults at just me.

This is a serious matter and should be discussed, as such, without name calling and bravado from all sides.

Frankly, I don't see all that much to be discussed--the issue is quite clear. What I see is a lot of kicking and screaming from people who are unwilling to accept the reality of the situation.

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Another person afraid to tell us anything about him/her... :blink:

Exactly what have you told anyone about yourself? It's funny how people that make up a screen name feel that they're actually identifying themselves.

If you want to walk that walk, sign your posts with your real name.

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Leave Strife alone. He's just a kid for Christ's sake (oops, sorry for the God reference).

Let him have his fun playing Constitutional Expert Alan Dershy Junior. If Georgie boy gets his way and re-starts the draft, Strife may be on the short list headed for the sandbox.

If they send Strife over there I'll bet he finds God faster than rabbits multiply. :blink:

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They were obviously speaking in a logical context. The arguments Mr. P.'s apologists have been putting forth have been of shamefully low quality.

Not necessarily. First off, nothing is amicable to EVERYONE, but that's not even what I'm talking about. What I mean is that if the evidence points distinctly toward one end, it's not a good idea to 'compromise' and concede points that contradict the evidence. That might placate the 'wrong side,' but it is counter-productive, to say the least.

Tell me about it...more than one topic now has been made for the sole purpose of slinging insults at just me.

Frankly, I don't see all that much to be discussed--the issue is quite clear. What I see is a lot of kicking and screaming from people who are unwilling to accept the reality of the situation.

The same can be said of the LaClair apologists in that some, yourself included, have taken the low road of name calling, such as moron or idiots, and the use of profanity to add emphasis to your argument.

I think as life goes on you will find that compromise and concessions are a part of daily life. As an attorney who deals in compromise every day at his job, I'm sure Mr. LaClair would agree with me on that thought. Also, how would you feel if the resolved compromise placated the right side? Would that be counter-productive?

Finally, if you do not "see all that much to discuss", why have you posted over 300 responses on the topic in one month? Maybe you're only making reference to the other side of this issue? The true reality is that not you or anyone else is going to change anothers opinion with your post in here. Are you willing to accept the reality that people are entitled to their own minds view of a situation, right or wrong?

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Sorry, Tex.  Strife's only advantage here is not having a life outside of KOTW. While the rest of us have careers, family and other obligation, Strife sits behind his keyboard pounding away for hours on end. My guess is he lives with his parents and is unemployed, how else can you explain his idle days (and nights).  And I still think he's an insecure little geek that's found a new pasttime.

I think you nailed it, 2smart. This obsession of posting these long-winded, tedious , monotonous diatribes is nothing short of compulsive behavior. He clearly has no life outside of KOTW.

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The same can be said of the LaClair apologists in that some, yourself included, have taken the low road of name calling, such as moron or idiots, and the use of profanity to add emphasis to your argument.

Uh, I think someone who willfully ignores the actual history around the founding of this country and the Constitution, as well as people who think evolution is either a lie, a fraud, or one big atheist conspiracy, pretty well deserve to be called idiots and morons. Just pay close attention to the kinds of comments I follow with "moron" or "idiot" to see what I mean--I don't just sling insults around for no reason.

I think as life goes on you will find that compromise and concessions are a part of daily life. As an attorney who deals in compromise every day at his job, I'm sure Mr. LaClair would agree with me on that thought. Also, how would you feel if the resolved compromise placated the right side? Would that be counter-productive?

Finally, if you do not "see all that much to discuss", why have you posted over 300 responses on the topic in one month?

Because it's frustrating to see so many people disagreeing with the obvious, and I don't give up trying to convince them right away.

Maybe you're only making reference to the other side of this issue? The true reality is that not you or anyone else is going to change anothers opinion with your post in here. Are you willing to accept the reality that people are entitled to their own minds view of a situation, right or wrong?

People can think whatever they want, but when they want to affect the lives of children, then they're not just opinions--they could have harmful effects, and I don't want to just stand by and be silent in the midst of that.

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I think you nailed it, 2smart. This obsession of posting these long-winded, tedious , monotonous diatribes is nothing short of compulsive behavior.

People are so ready to make fun of me just because I'm active on the forum and keep up with the topics. I read fast and type fast. *shrugs* I bet everyone here thinks it takes a lot more time out of my day to type all those posts than it actually does. :rolleyes:

He clearly has no life outside of KOTW.

Ad hominem. :)

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I think you nailed it, 2smart. This obsession of posting these long-winded, tedious , monotonous diatribes is nothing short of compulsive behavior.  He clearly has no life outside of KOTW.

As opposed to what--short but snide insults with no substance whatsoever?

Sorry, folks, but the facts (and the law) are on Strife's side. You can try to change the subject to speculating about Strife's personal life (a fallacy called ad hominem, if you're curious), but that's just an admission that you can't actually present a valid argument.

If you think Strife is wrong, then give your reasons and your evidence. If you can't then by all means keep sniping at him personally. It just shows how empty and foolish "your side" of the debate is.

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As opposed to what--short but snide insults with no substance whatsoever?

Sorry, folks, but the facts (and the law) are on Strife's side. You can try to change the subject to speculating about Strife's personal life (a fallacy called ad hominem, if you're curious), but that's just an admission that you can't actually present a valid argument.

If you think Strife is wrong, then give your reasons and your evidence. If you can't then by all means keep sniping at him personally. It just shows how empty and foolish "your side" of the debate is.

LOL ! Give your reasons and evidence ?? "Long-winded, tedious and monotonous" (which everyone will agree on) aren't reasons and evidence enough ?? Sorry, sweetheart, you lose this one.

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Uh, I think someone who willfully ignores the actual history around the founding of this country and the Constitution, as well as people who think evolution is either a lie, a fraud, or one big atheist conspiracy, pretty well deserve to be called idiots and morons. Just pay close attention to the kinds of comments I follow with "moron" or "idiot" to see what I mean--I don't just sling insults around for no reason.

Because it's frustrating to see so many people disagreeing with the obvious, and I don't give up trying to convince them right away.

People can think whatever they want, but when they want to affect the lives of children, then they're not just opinions--they could have harmful effects, and I don't want to just stand by and be silent in the midst of that.

Everyone knows what you think Strife, You've been beating it over and over and over again. Give your hand a rest already!

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Because it's frustrating to see so many people disagreeing with the obvious, and I don't give up trying to convince them right away.

People can think whatever they want, but when they want to affect the lives of children, then they're not just opinions--they could have harmful effects, and I don't want to just stand by and be silent in the midst of that.

So that I understand your quote correctly, all of these people are incorrect and only Strife is correct. Only Strife has the knowledge and insight to judge right from wrong. Only Strife is the Judge and Jury of the Town of Kearny to pursue the wrongdoings of one teacher how made an incorrect statement in response to a student's question.

Since Strife cannot compete in the real world he makes this forum his world and therefore king of the Kingdom of KOTW. Congratulations. Who needs justice when this town has you to decide. Guess it is frustrating having "so many people disagreeing with the obvious" which just happens not to be your belief. The LaClair boy was wrong and so are you. Enjoy your kingdom. It's now just a game posting here since most of these guest posts are from people who really do not know what did happen or what was said.

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It's now just a game posting here since most of these guest posts are from people who really do not know what did happen or what was said.

We know what he said. He said nonsense which he thinks is teaching history followed by a statement that in any other community in New Jersey would have suspended him from teaching for at least a couple of weeks or his ass would have been fired. Now the BOE wants to limit recording of classes. Nonsense. How dare they. People like you don't even believe the guy crossed the line when you have audio tape of him doing it. What will happen when there is no audio tape? We give him a metal. Or do we suspend the student for standing up.

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'Guest' wrote: "You can't be taken seriously with the handle "Dingo Dave". 2smart is right on this one.

Dear 'guest',

What 'handle' would you prefer that I use, oh 'handleless' one? Offer me some alternative suggestions for consideration.

Would you prefer something pompous and pretentious like '2smart4u'? Would that allow you to take what I write more seriously?

Perhaps you could start by cleaning up your own act and taking the time to put a title on your posts, so that people can identify them and respond accordingly. Or didn't you notice the little box at the top of the posting page that requests a nickname of some sort?

Obviously reading comprehension and observation aren't your strong points, or is it that you're just too plain rude and ignorant to bother putting a name to your posts?

One interesting observation that I have made while reading these message boards, is that the most ignorant, bigotted, and hatefilled posts are almost invariably made by people like you who don't bother to put an identifier on them. Keep up the good work dear 'Guest', it seems you've got lots of compny.

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So that I understand your quote correctly, all of these people are incorrect and only Strife is correct.  Only Strife has the knowledge and insight to judge right from wrong.  Only Strife is the Judge and Jury of the Town of Kearny to pursue the wrongdoings of one teacher how made an incorrect statement in response to a student's question.

No, you understand me incorrectly. Try again.

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'Guest' wrote: "You can't be taken seriously with the handle "Dingo Dave". 2smart is right on this one.

Dear 'guest',

What 'handle' would you prefer that I use, oh 'handleless' one? Offer me some alternative suggestions for consideration.

Would you prefer something pompous and pretentious like '2smart4u'? Would that allow you to take what I write more seriously?

Perhaps you could start by cleaning up your own act and taking the time to put a title on your posts, so that people can identify them and respond accordingly. Or didn't you notice the little box at the top of the posting page that requests a nickname of some sort?

Obviously reading comprehension and observation aren't your strong points, or is it that you're just too plain rude and ignorant to bother putting a name to your posts?

One interesting observation that I have made while reading these message boards, is that the most ignorant, bigotted, and hatefilled posts are almost invariably made by people like you who don't bother to put an identifier on them. Keep up the good work dear 'Guest', it seems you've got lots of compny.

Now that I've posted my full name, let me reiterate. You can't be takes seriously with the handle "Dingo Dave", it just shows your immaturity.

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John Guest wrote: "Now that I've posted my full name, let me reiterate. You can't be takes seriously with the handle "Dingo Dave", it just shows your immaturity."

What the Hell are you talking about 'John Guest'? What would you know about maturity?

What difference does it make what nickname I use? Are you the kind of person who puts a higher value on form rather than substance?

By the way, I have yet to see any substance in your posts, only snide remarks about my screen name.

How about contributing something constructive to the conversation instead of just derogatory remarks? All you have acheived so far is to make yourself look childish and small minded.

Were you the kind of kid who made fun of others in the school playground if they wore glasses, or had a foreign sounding name? Because that's the impression I'm getting from you.

I suspect that you were nothing more than a lowbrow bully at school. That is if you are not still at school.

Perhaps you should consider changing your screen name to Nelson Muntz.

If you really want to see some prime examples of vulgarity and immaturity, just take a look at a few of 2smart4u's last posts.

http://forums.kearnyontheweb.com/index.php...indpost&p=43467

http://forums.kearnyontheweb.com/index.php...indpost&p=43469

http://forums.kearnyontheweb.com/index.php...indpost&p=43470

http://forums.kearnyontheweb.com/index.php...indpost&p=43471

Unfortunately he has neither form nor substance. But I guess you think he is cool because he has a 'cool' screen name.

Maybe you two could form your own mutual admiration society. You deserve one another.

By the way, do you really expect anyone to believe that your real name is John Guest? I suspect that you are a liar as well as being a narrow minded bigot.

Thanks for your contribution, now please leave the rest of us alone if you have nothing worthwhile to say

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Now that I've posted my full name, let me reiterate. You can't be takes seriously with the handle "Dingo Dave", it just shows your immaturity.

On the contrary--your ad hominem shows your own immaturity far more than any harmless name could (I mean, come on, it's just an average American name with an alliterative animal name preceding it. Big deal :blink:).

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Now that I've posted my full name, let me reiterate. You can't be takes seriously with the handle "Dingo Dave", it just shows your immaturity.

What the Hell are you talking about 'John Guest'? What would you know about maturity?

What difference does it make what screen name I use? Are you the kind of person who puts a higher value on form, rather than substance?

By the way, I have yet to see any substance in your posts, just snide remarks about my screen name.

How about contributing something constructive to the conversation instead of silly, derogatory remarks? All you have achieved so far is to make yourself look childish and small minded.

Were you the kind of kid who made fun of others in the school playground if they wore glasses, or had a foreign sounding name, because that's the impression I'm getting from you.

I suspect that you were nothing more than a lowbrow bully at school. That is if you are not still at school.

Perhaps you should consider changing your screen name to Nelson Muntz.

If you really want to see some prime examples of vulgarity and immaturity, just take a look at a few of 2smart4u's latest posts.

http://forums.kearnyontheweb.com/index.php...indpost&p=43467

http://forums.kearnyontheweb.com/index.php...indpost&p=43469

http://forums.kearnyontheweb.com/index.php...indpost&p=43470

http://forums.kearnyontheweb.com/index.php...indpost&p=43471

Unfortunately he has neither form nor substance, but I guess that you think he's OK because he has a 'cool' screen name.

Perhaps you two could form your own mutual admiration society. You deserve one another.

By the way, do you really expect anyone to believe that your real name is ‘John Guest’? I suspect that you are a liar, as well as being a narrow minded bigot.

Thanks for your contribution, now please leave the rest of us alone if you have nothing worthwhile to add to the conversation.

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For those who wish to know him better....

About Me

I love singing (ask me about my recordings ^.^; ) and playing piano. I really enjoy cuddling and am always up for a warm, friendly hug. n.n Just keep in mind that if she's around, my mate gets first priority with the cuddlies, okay? *giggles*

Anyway, I just want to have _something_ here for people to read so that when I try and make contact with Pounced users, I can actually link them to my ad.

And in the off-chance someone sees my ad and is interested in making friends with me, they'll have something to go off of too. *chuckles* Feel free to ask me _anything_ about myself, or suggest I add something about myself to the ad that isn't there already. *smiles*

Basically my primary reason for keeping a Pounced ad is in the hopes of meeting a genuinely nice furry friend or two with whom I could hang out on a semi-regular basis in person. My travel ability S**ks, I know, but I'd definitely make an attempt for someone I genuinely like

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Here's another vote for Strife.

Who cares how tall he is?  On the boards, it's the size of your BRAIN that matters.

Strife's kicking the crap out of these folks, and they can't stand it.  On the other hand, they can't play at his level.  Thus the ad hominems.

Leigh Williams

Austin, Texas

Size of what brain? It doesn't take much brain power to sit on a message board all day and act like a pompous asshole.

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