Guest Guest Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Senate Republicans wrote and signed a letter to the government of Iran, interfering with the president's negotiations on a sensitive matter in dispute between Iran and the United States. In 1799, Congress passed and President John Adams signed the Logan Act, under which the 47 Republican traitors' political stunt is a felony, punishable by a fine and up to three years imprisonment. There's nothing to investigate. The letter speaks for itself, and those who signed it have essentially confessed to the crime. The language of the law is entirely clear: "Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both." Under our law, the executive, not the Congress, conducts negotiations with foreign governments. These 47 political hacks have committed a crime. The Justice Department should prosecute them, and send a message that American diplomacy is not a forum for political stunts by little boys and little girls who care about playing to their right wing base more than they care about the security of the American people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2smart4u Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Senate Republicans wrote and signed a letter to the government of Iran, interfering with the president's negotiations on a sensitive matter in dispute between Iran and the United States. In 1799, Congress passed and President John Adams signed the Logan Act, under which the 47 Republican traitors' political stunt is a felony, punishable by a fine and up to three years imprisonment. There's nothing to investigate. The letter speaks for itself, and those who signed it have essentially confessed to the crime. The language of the law is entirely clear: "Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both." Under our law, the executive, not the Congress, conducts negotiations with foreign governments. These 47 political hacks have committed a crime. The Justice Department should prosecute them, and send a message that American diplomacy is not a forum for political stunts by little boys and little girls who care about playing to their right wing base more than they care about the security of the American people. Now you know why democrats are referred to as the "Loony Left". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Senate Republicans wrote and signed a letter to the government of Iran, interfering with the president's negotiations on a sensitive matter in dispute between Iran and the United States. In 1799, Congress passed and President John Adams signed the Logan Act, under which the 47 Republican traitors' political stunt is a felony, punishable by a fine and up to three years imprisonment. There's nothing to investigate. The letter speaks for itself, and those who signed it have essentially confessed to the crime. The language of the law is entirely clear: "Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both." Under our law, the executive, not the Congress, conducts negotiations with foreign governments. These 47 political hacks have committed a crime. The Justice Department should prosecute them, and send a message that American diplomacy is not a forum for political stunts by little boys and little girls who care about playing to their right wing base more than they care about the security of the American people. Just curious, do you have any opinion on Obama, a serial liar who's trashing the constitution with his end runs around Congress ? Or how about our racist AG, who's caused enormous harm to race relations in this country. And let's not forget Hilary who's hiding e-mails from Congress to keep her illegal gifts from foreign leaders secret. Of course not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sothere Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 And back when Ronald Reagan was ending the cold war, ted kennedy was trying to negatiate privtely with the ussr , to the point were he wanted to get them to interfere with the us elections. And nancy pelosi went to syria and was making trouble with them to undermine W. the point is, this is done all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patriot Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Just curious, do you have any opinion on Obama, a serial liar who's trashing the constitution with his end runs around Congress ? Or how about our racist AG, who's caused enormous harm to race relations in this country. And let's not forget Hilary who's hiding e-mails from Congress to keep her illegal gifts from foreign leaders secret. Of course not. Kook-aid alert! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 And back when Ronald Reagan was ending the cold war, ted kennedy was trying to negatiate privtely with the ussr , to the point were he wanted to get them to interfere with the us elections. And nancy pelosi went to syria and was making trouble with them to undermine W. the point is, this is done all the time. Sounds like more right wing fantasy. Do you have any credible links to support these claims? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 "And let's not forget Hilary who's hiding e-mails from Congress to keep her illegal gifts from foreign leaders secret. Of course not." What about the four million emails that disappeared from an email account maintained by the RNC that Vice President Cheney used? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 And back when Ronald Reagan was ending the cold war, ted kennedy was trying to negatiate privtely with the ussr , to the point were he wanted to get them to interfere with the us elections. And nancy pelosi went to syria and was making trouble with them to undermine W. the point is, this is done all the time. False on both counts. There is no evidence that Kennedy ever did any such thing, and Sen. Tunney, who was with him on a trip to the Soviet Union, has called the charge bullshit. Pelosi went to Syria with several Republicans and Bush administration officials, who had briefed them on what to do. There is not a shred of evidence that either Kennedy or Pelosi tried to undermine US policy or negotiations, unlike the 47 traitors, who just did exactly that. Their letter is a clear violation of law, in writing and signed by the criminals. Shake, wiggle and dance all you want, they committed a felony and should go to prison. This sort of thing has to stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 False on both counts. There is no evidence that Kennedy ever did any such thing, and Sen. Tunney, who was with him on a trip to the Soviet Union, has called the charge bullshit. Pelosi went to Syria with several Republicans and Bush administration officials, who had briefed them on what to do. There is not a shred of evidence that either Kennedy or Pelosi tried to undermine US policy or negotiations, unlike the 47 traitors, who just did exactly that. Their letter is a clear violation of law, in writing and signed by the criminals. Shake, wiggle and dance all you want, they committed a felony and should go to prison. This sort of thing has to stop. Ted Kennedy should have gone to prison after drowning his girl friend. The 47 Senators are patriots for standing up to zerO. Hillary should be indicted for illegally hiding State Dept. business on a secret e-mail account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 What about the four million emails that disappeared from an email account maintained by the RNC that Vice President Cheney used? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 Ted Kennedy should have gone to prison after drowning his girl friend. The 47 Senators are patriots for standing up to zerO. Hillary should be indicted for illegally hiding State Dept. business on a secret e-mail account. In order for someone to be prosecuted, there has to be a statutory law under which he can be charged. The 47 Republican traitors are subject to prosecution under the Logan Act, which is recited verbatim in the OP. Under what section of law could Clinton be prosecuted? You won't answer that question because there is no law under which she could be prosecuted. As usual, you're just making stuff up. And not that you care but the person you keep demeaning is President of the United States, elected by majority vote of the American people, twice. He is entitled to respect, as are those of us who voted for him. The majority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patriot Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 In order for someone to be prosecuted, there has to be a statutory law under which he can be charged. The 47 Republican traitors are subject to prosecution under the Logan Act, which is recited verbatim in the OP. Under what section of law could Clinton be prosecuted? You won't answer that question because there is no law under which she could be prosecuted. As usual, you're just making stuff up. And not that you care but the person you keep demeaning is President of the United States, elected by majority vote of the American people, twice. He is entitled to respect, as are those of us who voted for him. The majority. zerO was elected by White Guilters and those who wanted to vote for the first black, regardless of lack of experience and lack of work history. zerO's socialist views and his muslim heritage, combined with his empty resume have made America into a paper tiger around the world. Dick Chaney, in an interview yesterday said zerO is the worst president in history and zerO is proving him right every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 zerO was elected by White Guilters and those who wanted to vote for the first black, regardless of lack of experience and lack of work history. zerO's socialist views and his muslim heritage, combined with his empty resume have made America into a paper tiger around the world. Dick Chaney, in an interview yesterday said zerO is the worst president in history and zerO is proving him right every day. No, President Obama was elected because the majority of us preferred him over McCain and Palin. He was re-elected because a majority of us preferred him over Romney and Ryan. He's not a socialist, or a Muslim, and has made our foreign policy and world standing stronger. Dick Cheney belongs in a prison. And of course, you ignored the question. Under what law could Clinton be prosecuted? There isn't one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 Wow...so the guy who segregated the government rates higher? The guy who pushed to force Indians onto reservations? Either you have no historical perspective or some whacked out priorities. My guess is both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 False on both counts. There is no evidence that Kennedy ever did any such thing, and Sen. Tunney, who was with him on a trip to the Soviet Union, has called the charge bullshit. Pelosi went to Syria with several Republicans and Bush administration officials, who had briefed them on what to do. There is not a shred of evidence that either Kennedy or Pelosi tried to undermine US policy or negotiations, unlike the 47 traitors, who just did exactly that. Their letter is a clear violation of law, in writing and signed by the criminals. Shake, wiggle and dance all you want, they committed a felony and should go to prison. This sort of thing has to stop. And what law would that be? Make sure the semi colons are in the right place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dick Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 Therefore, BHO, is guilty under the Logan Act. All treaties must originate in the Congress. Not the Clinton Motel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 The 47 Senators are patriots for standing up to zerO. Stupid, No matter how much you hate the President, undermining American foreign policy by direct contact with foreign leaders is a crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 Stupid, No matter how much you hate the President, undermining American foreign policy by direct contact with foreign leaders is a crime. Was it also a Crime then When Pelosi did it with Bashir Assad in 2007???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 And what law would that be? Make sure the semi colons are in the right place. Told you already, several times: The Logan Act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 Therefore, BHO, is guilty under the Logan Act. All treaties must originate in the Congress. Not the Clinton Motel. Treaties are negotiated and made by President, who then sends the treaty to the Senate for approval. [uS Constitution, Article II, Section 2, Clause 2.] The Senate may approve or disapprove but it may not amend a treaty, and it has absolutely no power to originate one. Where do you right wingers and Obama-haters get this stuff? You're dead wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2smart4u Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 Stupid, No matter how much you hate the President, undermining American foreign policy by direct contact with foreign leaders is a crime. Foreign policy ?? Ha. You must be one of the 23 people that watch MSNBC. News flash, zerO has no "foreign policy". If there's been any crime committed, it's having a muslim sympathizer in the white house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 Was it also a Crime then When Pelosi did it with Bashir Assad in 2007???? She didn't. The White House briefed her and accompanied her on that trip. Her intent was not to undermine the administration's policies. She was acting with the Bush administration, not against it. Intent is a requirement under the Logan Act. Read it instead of parroting back whatever Fox and Limbaugh tell you to think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 Foreign policy ?? Ha. You must be one of the 23 people that watch MSNBC. News flash, zerO has no "foreign policy". If there's been any crime committed, it's having a muslim sympathizer in the white house. On the contrary, President Obama has an excellent foreign policy, which has kept us out of several wars that the neocons would have gotten us into if they had their way. Obama has restored our standing in the world, after Bush's disastrous misadventure in Iraq. No matter how much you hate Obama, the fact is that our foreign policy under his leadership has been stable, and US involvement in international difficulties has been kept to a minimum. The very fact that some foreign crisis or other is not daily news should tell you a lot, and it would if you were listening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 On the contrary, President Obama has an excellent foreign policy, which has kept us out of several wars that the neocons would have gotten us into if they had their way. Obama has restored our standing in the world, after Bush's disastrous misadventure in Iraq. No matter how much you hate Obama, the fact is that our foreign policy under his leadership has been stable, and US involvement in international difficulties has been kept to a minimum. The very fact that some foreign crisis or other is not daily news should tell you a lot, and it would if you were listening. I have to jump in here. Did you just land on this planet ? Have you noticed that half the world is on fire? Iran is taking over the Mideast while laughing at Obama's silly attempts to negotiate with them. We just evacuated Yemen. Even the Dems in Congress are turning against him. Wise up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 I have to jump in here. Did you just land on this planet ? Have you noticed that half the world is on fire? Iran is taking over the Mideast while laughing at Obama's silly attempts to negotiate with them. We just evacuated Yemen. Even the Dems in Congress are turning against him. Wise up. The world is not on fire, and President Obama's negotiations make excellent sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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