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[Guest Proud American]

Democrats are so hypocritical it's ridiculous. Gingrich is evil because he's been married 3 times yet they worship Clinton who raped two women while governor in Arkansas, sodomized a woman in the white house then lied about it under oath to congress. If Clinton was somehow able to run for president again the Loonys would flock to him like the messiah.

If so, Patriot, what does that make you? A super-hypocrite? You're the party of "values" and conservatism and yet you support Gingrich?

Gingrich committed adultery on two wives, accepted $1.8 million from Freddie Mac, supported TARP and the individual health care mandate. His main opponent, Mitt Romney, has called his ideas "zaney" and called him a "bomb thrower".

By the way, it's been 11 years since Bill Clinton was president. He is not running for office.

[Guest Gadfly]

Democrats are so hypocritical it's ridiculous. Gingrich is evil because he's been married 3 times yet they worship Clinton who raped two women while governor in Arkansas, sodomized a woman in the white house then lied about it under oath to congress. If Clinton was somehow able to run for president again the Loonys would flock to him like the messiah.

Wow, way to be relevant. You do realize that no one under 30 actually voted for him, right? Like I care about the guy who was president when I was in grade school.

Oddly enough, I don't recall Clinton being convicted of raping anyone. But I'm sure you have much better access to information than Fox News who have apparently never run a story on these heinous acts.

[Guest Guest]

Democrats are so hypocritical it's ridiculous. Gingrich is evil because he's been married 3 times yet they worship Clinton who raped two women while governor in Arkansas, sodomized a woman in the white house then lied about it under oath to congress. If Clinton was somehow able to run for president again the Loonys would flock to him like the messiah.

You're wrong on all counts, as usual.

Yes we would return Clinton to the presidency if we could. We'd be crazy not to, considering how he put the economy on a path to solvency. That's not loony, it's doing what is best for our country.

We didn't like his infidelity at all but we made a reasoned judgment that his skill and knowledge about public policy outweighed that. Weighing personal flaws against political skills and knowledge is judgment, not hypocrisy. For all his flaws, Clinton has been married to his first and only wife for more than thirty years. You can't say that about Gingrich, can you. You won't answer that, of course, because you can't. It's the truth. And if you want to talk about hypocrisy, the Republicans are the ones who are constantly judging others in their "morality," which in their narrow view has mainly to do with sex. So if you want to live by that sword, you have to die by it too.

Before you run off at the mouth calling other people Loony, you should take a little time to understand what we're actually saying. But you can't do that because you can only see the world through your narrow little lens. And you can't understand what I just told you, so you can't change. I can give you the information to get yourself out of the dark closet in which you've locked yourself but I can't give you the will or the brains to understand it.

Start with a little humility. Recognize that you don't know nearly as much as you think you do. You should realize that, because you keep getting caught saying things that aren't true. That should induce you to think and to change, only you're grown so accustomed to being wrong that you assume something must be wrong with the people who recognize what an idiot you are, which is pretty much everyone here. There's so little light in your closet that you can barely see anything at all.

So you keep posting. You couldn't make a better argument why people should reject your views.

[Guest Patriot]

You're wrong on all counts, as usual.

Yes we would return Clinton to the presidency if we could. We'd be crazy not to, considering how he put the economy on a path to solvency. That's not loony, it's doing what is best for our country.

We didn't like his infidelity at all but we made a reasoned judgment that his skill and knowledge about public policy outweighed that. Weighing personal flaws against political skills and knowledge is judgment, not hypocrisy. For all his flaws, Clinton has been married to his first and only wife for more than thirty years. You can't say that about Gingrich, can you. You won't answer that, of course, because you can't. It's the truth. And if you want to talk about hypocrisy, the Republicans are the ones who are constantly judging others in their "morality," which in their narrow view has mainly to do with sex. So if you want to live by that sword, you have to die by it too.

Before you run off at the mouth calling other people Loony, you should take a little time to understand what we're actually saying. But you can't do that because you can only see the world through your narrow little lens. And you can't understand what I just told you, so you can't change. I can give you the information to get yourself out of the dark closet in which you've locked yourself but I can't give you the will or the brains to understand it.

Start with a little humility. Recognize that you don't know nearly as much as you think you do. You should realize that, because you keep getting caught saying things that aren't true. That should induce you to think and to change, only you're grown so accustomed to being wrong that you assume something must be wrong with the people who recognize what an idiot you are, which is pretty much everyone here. There's so little light in your closet that you can barely see anything at all.

So you keep posting. You couldn't make a better argument why people should reject your views.

Your post is a clear example of why you're all referred to as Loons. Bubba rapes two women while governor, sodomizes an intern while president but he gets a pass because he's been "married to his first and only wife for more than 30 years"?? That's one of the Loonier remarks I've seen.

[Guest Gadfly]

Your post is a clear example of why you're all referred to as Loons. Bubba rapes two women while governor, sodomizes an intern while president but he gets a pass because he's been "married to his first and only wife for more than 30 years"?? That's one of the Loonier remarks I've seen.

Link? Rape is a pretty serious charge. Got more than an accusation?

Still dating yourself-as are those who claim they would vote for him if they could. He hasn't been president for quite some time. Besides-Grinch gets a pass because Clinton was worse? Why?

As for hypocrisy-if Republicans really believed what they claim to believe they'd be overwhelmingly for Ron Paul. He's more like Reagan than any of this crappy group. If he were to become the nominee I'd vote for him in a heartbeat. My family are huge fans of Reagan-his immigration plan allowed my grandparents to become citizens. Instead we have him explaining at the Fox debate how his fellow candidates don't understand the basic concept of separation of powers! Seriously-where do you guys get these bozos? If the Republican party doesn't find another Reagan soon, they will become so extremist that they'll make themselves irrelevant.

[Guest Gadfly]

By the way-I know about the Juanita Broaddrick accusation, but that's all I could find. A woman accused him of raping her twenty years before. Her only sworn testimony on the event was to state it didn't happen.

[Guest Patriot]

Link? Rape is a pretty serious charge. Got more than an accusation?

Still dating yourself-as are those who claim they would vote for him if they could. He hasn't been president for quite some time. Besides-Grinch gets a pass because Clinton was worse? Why?

As for hypocrisy-if Republicans really believed what they claim to believe they'd be overwhelmingly for Ron Paul. He's more like Reagan than any of this crappy group. If he were to become the nominee I'd vote for him in a heartbeat. My family are huge fans of Reagan-his immigration plan allowed my grandparents to become citizens. Instead we have him explaining at the Fox debate how his fellow candidates don't understand the basic concept of separation of powers! Seriously-where do you guys get these bozos? If the Republican party doesn't find another Reagan soon, they will become so extremist that they'll make themselves irrelevant.

When you get back to the planet Earth, check the polls.

[Guest Guest]

When you get back to the planet Earth, check the polls.

I've been on Earth the whole time but here is what the polls say.

68% of the people disapprove of the job Republican leaders of Congress are doing.

Democrats get a 47%-47% on their approval/disapproval rating, while Republicans get 58% disapproval against 33% approval.

Democrats have taken a clear lead in the generic Congressional poll, which predicts who will control Congress after the next election.

President Obama's job approval rating stands at 44.9% on average, which is not bad considering how bad the economy is. Right now, Obama beats Romney, creams Gingrich and everyone else. He's behind a "generic Republican" but there is no such thing. You guys have to nominate someone.

Aside from that, your other problem is that you live on a planet where there are no facts, only right wing propaganda. Do the facts matter to you? There is no evidence that they do.

[Guest Gadfly]

When you get back to the planet Earth, check the polls.

I didn't say he was going to win. I said he wasn't because people like you don't actually believe what you say you do.

Unless you are thinking your far-right views are gaining popularity. They aren't-check the polls yourself. You are making the same mistake Democrats made from 2006-2008. You believe that people are coming to agree with your views. They aren't-they are rejecting the party who isn't getting things done just like they did in 2006 and 2008. This is "permanent Republican majority" all over again. Until one party starts moving beyond their ideas of ideological purity and trying to do something that might actually work you are going to see things getting worse and see drastic power shifts every few years. The politicians won't care-most of them are already rich. But into morons like you stop lapping up everything they feed you we'll never break out of the cycle. Luckily it is mostly the over-40 crowd the still believes in party before country-most of the people in my age bracket are Independents. So we just have to wait for you to die off.

[Guest Gadfly]

When you get back to the planet Earth, check the polls.

I notice that you dodged the "Clinton as rapist" question. How much does it bite to be humiliated over and over by someone less than a third your age?

[Guest Patriot]

I notice that you dodged the "Clinton as rapist" question. How much does it bite to be humiliated over and over by someone less than a third your age?

Google "How many women have accused Clinton of rape". And then come back to eat crow from someone much older and wiser than you.

[Guest Guest]

I notice that you dodged the "Clinton as rapist" question. How much does it bite to be humiliated over and over by someone less than a third your age?

It doesn't bother him at all. You have to have self-respect and intellectual honesty to be capable of being humiliated.

[Guest Guest]

Google "How many women have accused Clinton of rape". And then come back to eat crow from someone much older and wiser than you.

OK, idiot, I Googled it. Most of the entries are about Herman Cain and there's nothing on Clinton.

[Guest Gadfly]

Google "How many women have accused Clinton of rape". And then come back to eat crow from someone much older and wiser than you.

Ok. For those playing Pin the Lie on the Patriot, Google exactly what he said:

How many women have accused Clinton of rape

Got it? Ok-first result is a story about Jaunita Broaddrick. I mentioned her several posts ago. Second a story about Herman Cain. Third a story about Hillary accusing Kadhafi of using rape as a tool. Fourth is a blog post with an amusing twist-it can be found here:

http://the-maverick-conservative.blogspot.com/2011/11/bill-clinton-accused-of-rape-and.html

The amusing part (speaking of the Cain allegations):

"Yes, this ABSURD story came complete with a PICTURE of a BLONDDE WHITE WOMAN. The "allegation" is about an alleged "incident' a DECAE ago."

(Not my spelling errors, btw)

Keep in mind that Broaddrick waited twice as long, which somewhat deflates that defense.

Next is a Limbaugh rant, then more of the already mentioned stories.

Note that we've gone from you unequivocally stating that Clinton raped two women to a Google search that you suggested turning up the story I had already found about one woman who accused Clinton 20 years after the fact contradicting her own previous statements that it didn't happen.

How's that crow tasting? Older, yes. Wiser? Not so much. I had no idea about any of this until you brought it up-in 1999 I was in grade school. What's your excuse for not knowing what you're talking about?

[Guest Patriot]

Ok. For those playing Pin the Lie on the Patriot, Google exactly what he said:

How many women have accused Clinton of rape

Got it? Ok-first result is a story about Jaunita Broaddrick. I mentioned her several posts ago. Second a story about Herman Cain. Third a story about Hillary accusing Kadhafi of using rape as a tool. Fourth is a blog post with an amusing twist-it can be found here:

http://the-maverick-conservative.blogspot.com/2011/11/bill-clinton-accused-of-rape-and.html

The amusing part (speaking of the Cain allegations):

"Yes, this ABSURD story came complete with a PICTURE of a BLONDDE WHITE WOMAN. The "allegation" is about an alleged "incident' a DECAE ago."

(Not my spelling errors, btw)

Keep in mind that Broaddrick waited twice as long, which somewhat deflates that defense.

Next is a Limbaugh rant, then more of the already mentioned stories.

Note that we've gone from you unequivocally stating that Clinton raped two women to a Google search that you suggested turning up the story I had already found about one woman who accused Clinton 20 years after the fact contradicting her own previous statements that it didn't happen.

How's that crow tasting? Older, yes. Wiser? Not so much. I had no idea about any of this until you brought it up-in 1999 I was in grade school. What's your excuse for not knowing what you're talking about?

OK, your education on Bubba Clinton is off to a good start. Next, Google "Gennifer Flowers", she's the other woman raped/seduced while Bubba was Governor of Arkansas. Dispite your tender age I think I can help you with your lack of knowledge.

[Guest Guest]

OK, your education on Bubba Clinton is off to a good start. Next, Google "Gennifer Flowers", she's the other woman raped/seduced while Bubba was Governor of Arkansas. Dispite your tender age I think I can help you with your lack of knowledge.

"Raped/seduced." Do you think there's a difference?

You're such an ass!

[Guest Gadfly]

OK, your education on Bubba Clinton is off to a good start. Next, Google "Gennifer Flowers", she's the other woman raped/seduced while Bubba was Governor of Arkansas. Dispite your tender age I think I can help you with your lack of knowledge.

I think dementia has set in, old man. Now you've gone delusional-from two rapes to one woman who accused him of rape but whose case was thrown out of court when she sued him twenty years later and one woman who he slept with but who never claimed that he raped her. In fact, she claimed that they had a twelve year relationship.

You brought this up to defend the Newt who cheated on his dying wife. So far all you have is that Clinton cheated also-though his wife obviously wasn't dying and he didn't publicly shame her like the Newt did. So you are looking like a huge hypocrite for accusing Clinton of being worse for doing something shameful but not quite as shameful as the Newt.

[Guest Patriot]

I think dementia has set in, old man. Now you've gone delusional-from two rapes to one woman who accused him of rape but whose case was thrown out of court when she sued him twenty years later and one woman who he slept with but who never claimed that he raped her. In fact, she claimed that they had a twelve year relationship.

You brought this up to defend the Newt who cheated on his dying wife. So far all you have is that Clinton cheated also-though his wife obviously wasn't dying and he didn't publicly shame her like the Newt did. So you are looking like a huge hypocrite for accusing Clinton of being worse for doing something shameful but not quite as shameful as the Newt.

"Clinton cheated ?? You're too funny. Bubba rapes a woman, has an affair with another woman while governor, sodomizes another young woman in the white house while president, lies about it under oath to congress and he "cheated" ?

[Guest Gadfly]

"Clinton cheated ?? You're too funny. Bubba rapes a woman, has an affair with another woman while governor, sodomizes another young woman in the white house while president, lies about it under oath to congress and he "cheated" ?

So accused of rape, no matter how dubious the circumstances, is equivalent to rape? Gotcha. Your hatred is showing, btw. Very Christian of you.

Doesn't matter now anyway-your boy's poll numbers are dropping like a rock.

[Guest Patriot]

So accused of rape, no matter how dubious the circumstances, is equivalent to rape? Gotcha. Your hatred is showing, btw. Very Christian of you.

Doesn't matter now anyway-your boy's poll numbers are dropping like a rock.

My boy is anyone who will send the socialist empty suit back to Chicago.

[Guest Guest]

My boy is anyone who will send the socialist empty suit back to Chicago.

Yes, we know, and you'll say the same thing about the next Democratic President. You're the kind of person who parrots back whatever propaganda they feed you on Fox and right wing talk radio. You don't understand it but you say it anyway. You still haven't answered how a modern economy can operate without a strong central government.

[Guest Patriot]

My boy is anyone who will send the socialist empty suit back to Chicago.

Still no name huh? Huntsman's probably the sanest and most competent of the gop crop but he doesn't stand a chance against the lunatic fringe of the teabags and the wing nuts that have taken over the party.

[Guest Kearny Senior]

Yes, we know, and you'll say the same thing about the next Democratic President. You're the kind of person who parrots back whatever propaganda they feed you on Fox and right wing talk radio. You don't understand it but you say it anyway. You still haven't answered how a modern economy can operate without a strong central government.

Get your head out of your ass. The condition of our country under Obama's "strong central government" over the last 3 years blows your argument away. BTW, your "propaganda on Fox" comment doesn't make sense, are you aware that Fox has far more viewers than CNN and MSNBC put together?? If you're going to post on KOTW you should at least try to be somewhat accurate, otherwise you come across as a fool.

But then again most Obama supporters are short on facts.