Another outrage

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zerO pissed away a half billion dollars with Solyndra. Now there's another 1.2 Billion lost on a rat hole names SunPower. That 1.2 bilion is supposed to create 80 jobs, that works out to 15 million per job. The zerO administration has become a huge casino, gambling with taxpayer money and losing every time he spins the wheel.

On the positive side, 19% of people polled said they believe America is on the right track. There's no truth to the rumor that all 19% live in Kearny.

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zerO pissed away a half billion dollars with Solyndra. Now there's another 1.2 Billion lost on a rat hole names SunPower. That 1.2 bilion is supposed to create 80 jobs, that works out to 15 million per job. The zerO administration has become a huge casino, gambling with taxpayer money and losing every time he spins the wheel.

On the positive side, 19% of people polled said they believe America is on the right track. There's no truth to the rumor that all 19% live in Kearny.

And how does this compare to the trillions of dollars American taxpayers have spent subsidizing oil companies so that American consumers could have the privilege of remaining dependent on oil and American citizens could have experience the joy of being hostage to Mideast politics? $1.2 billion dollars spent to help an emerging green technology get off the ground is a good investment. It's not just about the jobs created short term; it's about giving the American people access to other sources of energy. But of course that's the spin: it's only about a few short-term jobs according to them. You know right there that they're trying to propagandize you - well you don't but an intelligent person does.

Whether the investment succeeds is another question. Not every investment works out. But as usual, you've bought the Fox spin. You don't get it. Fox shills for the oil companies. They're going to sell the oil company party line - and they did. The oil companies don't want the solar companies to succeed. So they'll pull every public relations and political trick they can think of. This is just the latest of them. There will be many others.

You're being robbed right and left by an oil industry that has rigged the political game to make sure that alternative technologies do not emerge. We've known for decades that dependence on oil was bleeding us economically and threatening our national security. What have we done about it? Practically nothing. How do you explain that if not for the influence of big oil on the political system?

So what is your response when someone tries to help a solar company get started? You look for ways to find fault and cast blame. You see every failure along the way as proof of incompetence. But every new enterprise has failures along the way. If we had thought your way, we never would have built the transcontinental railroad, put men on the moon or for that matter defended our country in World War II. And Sun Power isn't a failure. It's a forty-year-old ongoing concern with the potential for reducing our dependence on oil, much of which is foreign-produced.

So in the end, what's the story about? Republicans want to investigate a solar energy company. Wow, what a surprise.

Maybe you'll get your way. Maybe Sun Power will go out of business. Maybe we'll continue to rely on oil for everything. Maybe we'll keep making oil executives rich. Maybe we'll fight another two or three or ten wars in the Middle East because of the oil. Maybe we'll keep digging ourselves digger into debt as our living standards decline. What's another few trillion dollars as long as the oil companies are prospering, right? And maybe you'll continue to bury your head in the sand while your corporate masters tell you that everything is fine, while you continue to spend money on an expensive technology that must be replaced sooner or later. But hey, Fox Noise says they aren't the problem, so you bleat your little sheep song and keep voting for the people who are stealing your money.

Pay now or pay later. It's up to us.

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And how does this compare to the trillions of dollars American taxpayers have spent subsidizing oil companies so that American consumers could have the privilege of remaining dependent on oil and American citizens could have experience the joy of being hostage to Mideast politics? $1.2 billion dollars spent to help an emerging green technology get off the ground is a good investment. It's not just about the jobs created short term; it's about giving the American people access to other sources of energy. But of course that's the spin: it's only about a few short-term jobs according to them. You know right there that they're trying to propagandize you - well you don't but an intelligent person does.

Whether the investment succeeds is another question. Not every investment works out. But as usual, you've bought the Fox spin. You don't get it. Fox shills for the oil companies. They're going to sell the oil company party line - and they did. The oil companies don't want the solar companies to succeed. So they'll pull every public relations and political trick they can think of. This is just the latest of them. There will be many others.

You're being robbed right and left by an oil industry that has rigged the political game to make sure that alternative technologies do not emerge. We've known for decades that dependence on oil was bleeding us economically and threatening our national security. What have we done about it? Practically nothing. How do you explain that if not for the influence of big oil on the political system?

So what is your response when someone tries to help a solar company get started? You look for ways to find fault and cast blame. You see every failure along the way as proof of incompetence. But every new enterprise has failures along the way. If we had thought your way, we never would have built the transcontinental railroad, put men on the moon or for that matter defended our country in World War II. And Sun Power isn't a failure. It's a forty-year-old ongoing concern with the potential for reducing our dependence on oil, much of which is foreign-produced.

So in the end, what's the story about? Republicans want to investigate a solar energy company. Wow, what a surprise.

Maybe you'll get your way. Maybe Sun Power will go out of business. Maybe we'll continue to rely on oil for everything. Maybe we'll keep making oil executives rich. Maybe we'll fight another two or three or ten wars in the Middle East because of the oil. Maybe we'll keep digging ourselves digger into debt as our living standards decline. What's another few trillion dollars as long as the oil companies are prospering, right? And maybe you'll continue to bury your head in the sand while your corporate masters tell you that everything is fine, while you continue to spend money on an expensive technology that must be replaced sooner or later. But hey, Fox Noise says they aren't the problem, so you bleat your little sheep song and keep voting for the people who are stealing your money.

Pay now or pay later. It's up to us.

This is 5 paragraphs of discrepant facts made to look like something else. Solyndra was a disaster and a fiasco, and it proves that Obama's cronyism is on par with Bush's. I'm glad Obama doesn't level entire countries to get his friends paid (he only does this for political gain... just as bad), but what he's doing is as dishonest to the American taxpayer as Bush/Haliburton. Give me a break, Obama Zombies. The only way we can move forward as liberals and progressives is if we leave this guy in our rear-view mirror. The car is in the ditch, blah blah blah. F**K this guy.

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This is 5 paragraphs of discrepant facts made to look like something else. Solyndra was a disaster and a fiasco, and it proves that Obama's cronyism is on par with Bush's. I'm glad Obama doesn't level entire countries to get his friends paid (he only does this for political gain... just as bad), but what he's doing is as dishonest to the American taxpayer as Bush/Haliburton. Give me a break, Obama Zombies. The only way we can move forward as liberals and progressives is if we leave this guy in our rear-view mirror. The car is in the ditch, blah blah blah. F**K this guy.

Finally, a liberal that's taken off the blinders and seen zerO for what he is, an incompetent empty suit. I'm amazed at how these far left Loonies will constantly support zerO no matter what he does.

Solyndra, Sunpower, Stimulus, 9+ unemployment, tanked economy, more debt accumulated in last 2 and 3/4 years than the last 200 years, incompetence personified. Yet not a negative word spoken from the left. I would never have believed that partisan politics would trump love of country.

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This is 5 paragraphs of discrepant facts made to look like something else. Solyndra was a disaster and a fiasco, and it proves that Obama's cronyism is on par with Bush's. I'm glad Obama doesn't level entire countries to get his friends paid (he only does this for political gain... just as bad), but what he's doing is as dishonest to the American taxpayer as Bush/Haliburton. Give me a break, Obama Zombies. The only way we can move forward as liberals and progressives is if we leave this guy in our rear-view mirror. The car is in the ditch, blah blah blah. F**K this guy.

And replace him with whom?

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And replace him with whom?

Replace him with any GOP candidate.

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And replace him with whom?

I'm going to vote for Ron Paul, because he'll end Obama's 3+ wars and save this country a ton of money on defense (while still keeping us safe). There are a lot of things Dr. Paul and I don't agree on, but we agree on the important things. And Paul is not a friend of Washington or Wall Street. He's a man of the people, for the people.

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I'm going to vote for Ron Paul, because he'll end Obama's 3+ wars and save this country a ton of money on defense (while still keeping us safe). There are a lot of things Dr. Paul and I don't agree on, but we agree on the important things. And Paul is not a friend of Washington or Wall Street. He's a man of the people, for the people.

Ron Paul is a well-meaning ideologue who doesn't understand that the 18th century is over.

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Fear mongering. Dems still think teachers unions actually care about America's kids. What century are they in?

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Fear mongering. Dems still think teachers unions actually care about America's kids. What century are they in?

That's a separate issue. Why change the subject? Don't run away from the problem. Ron Paul is well-meaning kook who doesn't understand 21st-century economics.

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That's a separate issue. Why change the subject? Don't run away from the problem. Ron Paul is well-meaning kook who doesn't understand 21st-century economics.

I stayed on subject. You told me my candidate doesn't understand 21st century politics/economics, so I asked where that puts your candidate. Education is one of many issues Ron Paul is looking to reform. Ron Paul's vision of government is unlike anything that has existed before. The candidates you favor are beltway's finest, influenced too much by corporate money and other special interests. Honestly, what's more old-fashioned, dated and out-of-touch than that? If you really want to get into it, I'll have to ask what happened to Obama's "New New Deal." How did that early-20th century idea work out for him? How is that quasi-socialist state he's creating working out (note: I'm for a 100% socialist state)? How is that Roman Empire, divide-and-conquer foreign policy strategy working out for us? I'm not suggesting that returning to preexisting political systems is always a bad idea, but I just don't think you should be throwing stones from your glass house. You're attacking Ron Paul because he's an old man with different ideas. You're just like MSNBC, FOXNEWS and CNN.

You can rarara about Paul going back to the gold standard and suggest that he'd even want to institutionalize bartering (fear tactics), but he has real ideas for how to keep jobs in America, how to truly empower small business, take the power from Wall Street. And, while that may come at the expense of some social programs, we need something new. At the very least, Ron Paul will provide the poorer classes of this country more freedom and civil liberties (those that have been harshly stripped away by the last seven administrations). If you vote for Barack Obama, you'll get exactly what you've had for the past 4 years. A president who bends for everybody: Wall Street, insurance companies, neo-Cons and his buddies.

Here is the bottom line: You partisan idiots make concessions for everybody. "I don't want my civil liberties infringed upon, but I really like Obama's stance on healthcare. I don't want war, but I want a better tax plan." I don't want a lot of Ron Paul's reforms, but I don't believe in exterminating the inhabitants of the Middle East. I don't believe in an imperialist state that can't sustain itself (I don't believe in any imperialist state for that matter). In the first part of last decade, Dems were doves. Now I don't know what they are, but the only big ticket peacenik out there now is a Republican. Why can't I trade something for something? You people get to all the time.

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I stayed on subject. You told me my candidate doesn't understand 21st century politics/economics, so I asked where that puts your candidate. Education is one of many issues Ron Paul is looking to reform. Ron Paul's vision of government is unlike anything that has existed before. The candidates you favor are beltway's finest, influenced too much by corporate money and other special interests. Honestly, what's more old-fashioned, dated and out-of-touch than that? If you really want to get into it, I'll have to ask what happened to Obama's "New New Deal." How did that early-20th century idea work out for him? How is that quasi-socialist state he's creating working out (note: I'm for a 100% socialist state)? How is that Roman Empire, divide-and-conquer foreign policy strategy working out for us? I'm not suggesting that returning to preexisting political systems is always a bad idea, but I just don't think you should be throwing stones from your glass house. You're attacking Ron Paul because he's an old man with different ideas. You're just like MSNBC, FOXNEWS and CNN.

You can rarara about Paul going back to the gold standard and suggest that he'd even want to institutionalize bartering (fear tactics), but he has real ideas for how to keep jobs in America, how to truly empower small business, take the power from Wall Street. And, while that may come at the expense of some social programs, we need something new. At the very least, Ron Paul will provide the poorer classes of this country more freedom and civil liberties (those that have been harshly stripped away by the last seven administrations). If you vote for Barack Obama, you'll get exactly what you've had for the past 4 years. A president who bends for everybody: Wall Street, insurance companies, neo-Cons and his buddies.

Here is the bottom line: You partisan idiots make concessions for everybody. "I don't want my civil liberties infringed upon, but I really like Obama's stance on healthcare. I don't want war, but I want a better tax plan." I don't want a lot of Ron Paul's reforms, but I don't believe in exterminating the inhabitants of the Middle East. I don't believe in an imperialist state that can't sustain itself (I don't believe in any imperialist state for that matter). In the first part of last decade, Dems were doves. Now I don't know what they are, but the only big ticket peacenik out there now is a Republican. Why can't I trade something for something? You people get to all the time.

You can trade something for something but you can't trade the mechanisms of the 21st century for the mechanisms of the 18th century and still keep your electricity, running water, etc. That's the part Ron Paul doesn't understand and you don't seem to either. It makes no sense to say you're for a 100% socialist economy and then support a libertarian. He wouldn't empower the average worker. His "solution" just gives more control to the corporations: there are no vacuums in today's economy, if you take government out, the corporations step in. Paul doesn't get that either, or if he does get it he doesn't care. Anyway, he's not going to be president so you might as well stop fantasizing.

I agree with you that our government is bought and paid for and am not happy that Obama didn't emphasize jobs, green technologies, energy development and infrastructure long ago. He still beats any Republican running hands down because they're completely in bed with big business, whereas Obama at least gets up occasionally to use the bathroom. He would do more if he had a freer hand.

I have no idea what you're talking about vis-a-vis Obama's foreign policy. He has done quite a lot to restore our standing in the world.

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I have no idea what you're talking about vis-a-vis Obama's foreign policy. He has done quite a lot to restore our standing in the world.

I want to address this more than anything: Continued two illegal wars and started his own. You are a Democrat for killing. Sleep at night.