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Here is what Paul had to say about the doctor:

"defendant doctor on the stand for cross-examination. He is a board-certified obstetrician-gynecologist and maternal-fetal (high-risk pregnancy) specialist with a fifty-page-plus curriculum vitae and an international reputation. He is exceptionally intelligent and well-qualified, not to mention personable and charming,"

What more do you want to know about the case? D**bA**.

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The facts.

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At least it would be a start....

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Sure, if you can find somewhere to save money, but all you have so far is a hope. Find a place to make a difference and the community will support you.

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Sure, if you can find somewhere to save money, but all you have so far is a hope. Find a place to make a difference and the community will support you.

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I did. I suggested that, if as the Mayor says, Police and Firemen are off limits, then surely we can look at other departments. I'm also not convinced that there aren't savings in the Police and Fire Departments either. There are always things around that can be scaled back. Hire an objective 3rd party consultant that specializes in this. They work on a contingency basis and are paid based on the amount of savings they find.

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I did.  I suggested that, if as the Mayor says, Police and Firemen are off limits, then surely we can look at other departments.  I'm also not convinced that there aren't savings in the Police and Fire Departments either.  There are always things around that can be scaled back.  Hire an objective 3rd party consultant that specializes in this.  They work on a contingency basis and are paid based on the amount of savings they find.

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OK, that's an approach. Do you know the names of any such consultants?

As for your saying you did: you didn't. Why don't you just post your entire idea instead of making people drag it out of you a piece at a time?

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Does anyone know if we still have a captain, lieut, 2 sargants at the police sub-station? That seems pretty excessive to me.

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Most times the substation is closed. I go by there almost every day. On the rare occasion you'll see a patrol car or two parked. But for the most part the substation is dark.

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OK, that's an approach. Do you know the names of any such consultants?

As for your saying you did: you didn't. Why don't you just post your entire idea instead of making people drag it out of you a piece at a time?

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I wish I had more experience in this subject to be able to contribute more. In my career, I've been involved in cost cutting initiatives and have seen that bringing in an experienced 3rd party can be very successful. I'm simply trying to offer this as suggestion in the hope that our mayor and council will look into it. Surely, they have the connections to identify someone who can do this. I also seem to recall that a NJ state auditor came in a few years back and did something similar but that the recommendations were never acted upon. Don't recall, however, whether it was done under our current mayor or a previous one.

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Does anyone know if we still have a captain, lieut, 2 sargants at the police sub-station? That seems pretty excessive to me.

Most times the substation is closed. I go by there almost every day. On the rare occasion you'll see a patrol car or two parked. But for the most part the substation is dark.

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At NO TIME was there ever a Captain, Lieutenant and 2 sergeants assigned to the Substation at Belgrove and Woodland. There IS however a Sergeant assigned to the Desk, and a Patrol Officer assigned to that station EVERY DAY from 2pm-10pm

If KHS81 "Never" sees anyone there i suggest he get his glasses checked.

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QUOTE(Guest @ Oct 10 2007, 03:18 PM)

Does anyone know if we still have a captain, lieut, 2 sargants at the police sub-station? That seems pretty excessive to me.

At NO TIME was there ever a Captain, Lieutenant and 2 sergeants assigned to the Substation at Belgrove and Woodland.  There IS however a Sergeant assigned to the Desk, and a Patrol Officer assigned to that station EVERY DAY from 2pm-10pm

  If KHS81 "Never" sees anyone there i suggest he get his glasses checked.

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Then why did the police insist they needed 1 captain, 1 lieutenant and 2 sergeants to open that substation?

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ask the mayor since he's the one who said it.

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Mangin has kept oddly quiet on all those police promotions. If not for the substation, then was it just to increase salaries in the police department? Why unnecessarily spend tax dollars?

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Then why did the police insist they needed 1 captain, 1 lieutenant and 2 sergeants to open that substation?

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When did the Police state that?? I'd like to hear a date and the name of the official who made that statement. Also Pete Chiccinho, and Rosa Alves were the ones who spearheaded the Substation, and insisted that it be opened... IIRC when that project started Santos wasnt Mayor, he was a freshman councilman. Santos has TONS of other sins to his name, the substation isnt one of them.

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When did the Police state that??  I'd like to hear a date and the name of the official who made that statement.  Also Pete Chiccinho, and Rosa Alves were the ones who spearheaded the Substation, and insisted that it be opened... IIRC when that project started Santos wasnt Mayor, he was a freshman councilman.  Santos has TONS of other sins to his name, the substation isnt one of them.

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2001. Right around the time that Rosa quit the Council.

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Mangin has kept oddly quiet on all those police promotions.  If not for the substation, then was it just to increase salaries in the police department?  Why unnecessarily spend tax dollars?

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Will Jim Mangin tell us his version of events of why he voted for the additional police captain, lieutenant and sergeants in 2001?

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