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  1. The funniest thing about this topic is that 2 Smart couldn't spell his own name!

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    :) its easy to blow off about real "BLESSINGS FROM GOD" but after going through some hard times when only asking god to help and seeing his hand work i will never see why any of you bothering to wake up in the morning!! why? you have nothing to live for do you? what is life? what is spirit? next time you get in trouble DO NOT SAY GOD HELP ME! do not wast his time when you turn your back on him!thank god I'm in the south where real true god loving folk are! :ninja:

  2. :P kearny you are just part of 1BIG SCAM! your best buddy paul p is just 1 small part of a huge scam by the american athists.inc ! they also are trying to put the screws to a small town in north FLA' 'STARK FLA HAD TO TAKE A CROSS THAT HAS BEEN ATOP A WATER TOWER FOR MANY YEARS OFF! A BOO BOO FOOL BY THE NAME OF LON BEVILL STARTED THE SAME KIND OF CRAP AS PAUL! this is "going on all over" paul is wanting to make points with this [org] the story is getting larger! oh yes this story is printed in the bradford telegraph.com news paper in stark fla and yes you can read it on line :excl::excl:
  3. Dear Leigh,

    It's encouraging to hear that not all those who label themselves as Christians, endorse the doctrine of eternal Hellfire.

    Unfortunately, you and your fellow Universalists are only a tiny minority within the larger Christian community. It's also unfortunate that your views flatly contradict the numerous passages in the Bible where the doctrine of eternal suffering is explicitly and unapologetically promoted.

    If there is no Hellfire, then what was it that the gospel Jesus meant when he himself taught the doctrine of Hell, and what is it that his torture and murder is supposed to save us from?

    The gospel Jesus explicitly taught that finding yourself being thrown into Hell is a fate worse than death.

    Luke 12:4-5 "I tell you, my friends, do not fear those who kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do. But I will warn you whom to fear: fear him who, after he has killed, has power to cast you into hell; yes, I tell you, fear him!"

    In other words, fear Jesus and his dear old dad.

    and; B) wow you are good!  i can see you have had lots of time to study! so where did GOD let you down? or i will say think he did!  B)

    Mark 16:16 " He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be damned."

    If there is no Hell, then there is no need for fear, and no need for salvation. It's as simple as that.

    The New Testament passages describing the fate of unbelievers are numerous and explicit. There is no escaping this fact. Jesus himself preached about Hell more often than any other New Testament figure did.

    So, whilst I admire your efforts to disassociate the doctrine of Hellfire from the Christian religion, I'm afraid that you are fighting an uphill battle. It's a battle which you cannot possibly win.

    The only way that the doctrine of Hell can be expunged from Christianity is to simply ignore, or flatly contradict the numerous New Testament passages which clearly teach it.

    The vast majority of Christians worldwide would not consider your views, or the views of your church, to be ‘truly Christian’. They would accuse you of not being faithful to the texts themselves, or to the interpretations which all mainstream Christian communities have placed on them from the earliest of times. If you reject the notion of eternal Hellfire, then you can no longer be classified as a mainstream, orthodox Christian. Most Christians throughout the world would consider your views to be misguided and/or heretical. I don’t use the word heretical in an insulting or disparaging way, but as a simple statement of fact.

    I suspect that most Christians, if asked, would tell you that you may well be condemned to Hell yourself for holding such views, and not so long ago you would have been forced to recant under the threat of persecution, or torture, or worse.

    This is the unfortunate reality for any who choose to ignore or contradict what the Bible actually teaches about Hell.

  4. Well, I certainly admire your enthusiasm.  Growing up in a Baptist church, I've experienced my own share of revivals, and they can be special times indeed.

    Here's something I think is a little amusing:  on another forum, quite a while ago, I used the screen name OldBroad56. 

    Perhaps we are related . . .

    Leigh

    :P um old fart 56 is a real thing ! its a 56ford truck and i can ride it"how about you? um never mind!!! sorry! :)

  5. Oldfart56, the vast majority of Christians are, at this season, observing Lent.

    Lententide is a time for penitential reflection and introspection.  The spiritual disciplines of Lent are intended to help us learn to emulate Jesus and sacrifice our own will to the purpose of God.

    I realize that you are probably belong to a evangelical church of some kind, so your congregation doesn't observe Lent.  But please be aware that for the majority of your co-religionists, a call for "revival" at this season sounds a liitle, well, odd.

    Leigh

    :lol: lent is the best time ! REVIVAL is what lent is all about! jesus had revival after the cross! its the sprit alive! but do not take my word go ask your pastors!! get the truth! :wub:

  6. :wub:  :wub: yes yes its got a name its wonderfull its great its called [[[[[[R,E,V,I,V,A,L]]]]]]    PASTORS GET READY CLEARGY ITS YOUR TURN! RABBIS CALL THEM TO TEMPLE" ITS COMMING YOUR WAY! :wub:

    :wub: young people do you want to know the truth? the real truth about what David said in class? is god real? you will find the truth in "YOUR OWN CHURCH" IF YOU DO NOT HAVE 1 THEN GO TO BIBLE STUDY AT DAVIDS CHURCH! ask your pastors to talk about this topic! you will hear very littel truth here on line! ask the 1s that realy know the answers! KEARNY A [[[[[REVIAL IS COMMING YOUR WAY]]]]] WOULD YOU ASK A SHOE MAKER HOW TO FIX YOUR CAR?? :wub:

  7. do you hear it?its like a sweet sound ' the sound of a summer breeze in the trees! its a sound of happy voices singing praise!!!  do you hear it????? <_<

    :lol::lol: yes yes its got a name its wonderfull its great its called [[[[[[R,E,V,I,V,A,L]]]]]] PASTORS GET READY CLEARGY ITS YOUR TURN! RABBIS CALL THEM TO TEMPLE" ITS COMMING YOUR WAY! :wub:
  8. Maybe you should go back and take some basic english classes so that you might be able to string together a choerent sentence. I am sick of any opposition to 'Mr. P's" actions being classified as "Anti-Christ" followers. This world is full of wonderful loving Christians and you sir slap them in the face everytime that you open your mouth. You are certainly not helping the Christian cause. Your "type" of Christianity is exactly why most people don't want any religion in public schools.

    :rolleyes: keith who are you to talk for christian walkers/followers! you live in a state with the head quarters of the A/G THE PENT CHIRCH OF GOD AND WELL LETS SAY SOME OTHERS! with all that going on in your HOME STATE why are you posting here? is it that dead there? i hope you wake up and see just how wrong you are ! oh yah you would never find a place to post in your home state they would not put up with your crap !!!! your state has way to many christians to let you get away with your lies! kearny is "my" home not yours so go backoff in your own jackyard!!! :blink::lol::lol:

  9. Mr. P's letter confirms my suspicion that he was nuttier than Paul LaClair.  Instead of taking the opportunity to apologize for any perceived "religious preaching" he may have done inadvertently, show some humility, and ask for forgiveness.  That my friends would have been the smart move.  Instead he goes off like a nut selectively quoting the founders of our country in defense of his First Amendment rights.

    Let me put it simply to you MR. P:  You have a First Amendment Right (with some limitations) to say whatever you want while you're on the street.  However, once you step into a public high school and accept a teaching position, you give up that right because the Establishment Clause (separation of church and state) makes the teaching of one religion over another illegal.  The school is neutral ground.  All religions are accepted (including aethists (no religion) because that prevents one religion from dominating another.  It's just a great idea for the benefit of all.  Why don't you get it.  How can you be a teacher and not get that concept.  You're a Baptist.  What if Aetheists became the majority?  Would you like the school to be free of aetheists teachers preaching their values?  Would you like your kids to be free of their preaching? 

    You should have exercised another constitutional right, the 5th Amendment right to remain silent.  Your silence was a lot better than your long letter in the Observer.  Your letter proved Mathew LaClair's case for him. 

    To Administrator Mooney, Attorney Lindenfelser, Kearny Board of Education members, Mayor Santos, councilmembers:  Please reprimand Mr. P; before my tax dollars pay for attorneys and the LaClairs for this insane teacher's conduct.

    Mr. LaClair I commend you for standing up.  I commend KOTW for providing a forum which has flushed out the true Mr. P.  I commend the Observer for its coverage.  I commend the New York Times for drawing attention to this issue.  I await that an elected official will stand up in the face of Mr. P's letter that he has crossed the line and has probably been crossing the line for years.  Let's put an end to it.

    :blink: you what? david tells the truth and yourself and the other "anti christ followers" try to rip him down! now we see just how stupid you fools are! i think you need to go back to school and take USA HISTORY all over! oh this time read the book!! :P
  10. Wow are you really that ignorant and superstitious?

    You really believe that if your friend was a Christian earlier he would still be here?

    You mean Christians don't get lung cancer and die?  Christians don't get sick and die?

    I am continually amazed at how stupid people can be.

    :unsure: ok here it is {NO} JUST SURE OF WHAT I KNOW! {2} YES!ITS A FACT THAT IF YOU EAT AND LIVE LIKE THE BIBLE SAYS YOU WILL LIVE LONGER! {3}NO PEOPLE CAN'T HELP THE AIR THEY BREATH OR THE STUFF IN THE FOOD ! but if you are careful and take care of your self/DON'T SMOKE! or do the things we know is at fault we have a better chance!!! and for the last part well yah im with ya on that!!! :D

  11. If an atheist has a deathbed "conversion," what does it prove except that he was afraid to die?

    Why not ask why theists cry at funerals?

    :excl: pAUL 2 months ago i lost 1 of my best friends who posted on this site as hey vern/harley guy. he had a very bad hart from smoking!we would talk as kids about things and he "always had the "smarts" right thing to say! but not ANYTHING ABOUT GOD! then just before he passed" we had a long phone call " the topic was death and GOD! he was like you then "he got smart" he knew his time was soon to come and wanted to know if JESUS/GOD was real!! we went to the bible and then we prayed yah prayed at that time he could see that it was a real thing! thank GOD he did! IF HE WOULD HAVE DONE THIS LONG AGO HE MITE STILL BE HERE! just living the right way the things the bible will teach you does help" GOD has 2 times of your life he controlls the dates on your head stone! that dash in the middle of the numbers! "thats yours to work with" thats it so are you going to waite for your last chance? are you that lucky? areyah?? :excl:

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