Guest Guest Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 The ineffective, untrained, unmotivated, patronage & nepotism stacked HFD is finally out of business with a takeover by the Newark FD. I doubt that Newark will absorb most of Harrison's bravest (LOL!) because of their inability to measure up with experienced Newark Firefighters. The gravy train has come to an end and the residents of Harrison will finally have decent fire service instead of a friend's & family club that was piss poor on its best day. Firefighting is a joke of a "profession" regardless if it's Newark or Harrison but this was a long time coming. The Harrison politicians main dumping ground for loser family members, friends and political patronage jobs is gone forever. Look for Firefighters with Newark patches at the publicity stunt Thanksgiving senior dinner service and toy drive this year. The lack of providing ambulance service to the residents was a disgrace. They sealed their own fate with outrageous greed and demands. See ya!! Hahahahhaha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 Keep dreaming Barney. By the way, where has your miserable self been? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Just Lurking Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 This will NEVER happen! The town and union would never allow this. I do believe a town that is one square mile should have a volunteer fire department, North Arlington does. Then again if Harrison did this how many of those brave men would step forward and volunteer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 My guess is that the overwhelming majority couldn't volunteer because they don't live in Harrison. The current Harrison Firefighters don't live, spend money, pay taxes or send their kids to school in Harrison. It's all about the $$$$ and to cut and run to wherever they live. The HFD would have kept working the ambulance if their families lived in Harrison. They are hardly ever involved in any activity except sleeping and watching TV at the clubhouse. I could see trying to keep the HFD if the Firefighters actually lived in Harrison and cared about the people but that's not the case. The best decision is to disband and close the books on the HFD and pay Newark of Kearny to respond to the couple of calls a week. The current Harrison Firefighters could try and apply for jobs in the town where they live or retire. Who cares? The savings would be substantial and could be used to hire desperately needed Police Officers. Harrison is being overwhelmed by a crime wave so who cares about Firefighters crying while being paid in excess of $100,000 per year plus overtime and benefits? It's outrageous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Harrisonian Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 So the DCA wants to give the Harrison Fire Department to Newark. Harrison is finally getting its redevelopment off the ground and the State DCA who knows nothing about Harrison wants to attach our lives to those of the City of Newark. What happens when a bridge is down and the Newark Fire Department has to come all the way from Newark. What happens when Newark is busy with it's own fires? Is it coming over to Harrison first then Newark. Is Mayor Fife for this? What say the councilman? The Harrison Fire Department has been there since the 1800's and this plan is crazy. DCA you have messed up our Police Department and now you want to mess up the Fire Department. Mayor Fife were are your balls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 Why does the State want to unite the Harrison fire dept. to a big city in Essex county; when Harrison is part of Hudson County and not unite the Harrison fire dept. with the Kearny one which is in Hudson County ? At least keep it in the same county and united with a 'smaller' town, closer by and less overworked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HFD Supporter Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 On 10/1/2016 at 11:10 PM, Guest guest said: Keep dreaming Barney. By the way, where has your miserable self been? I seriously don't think that Barney is dreaming. I read The Observer article. Firemen aren't dumb! "Where there's smoke, there's fire?" I'd be worried and I support the HFD. A lot of tradition will just disappear. In this day and age it's all about saving money, for which there is so little to go around. Who ever came up with the "Trend" of Merger or Disbanding must have never been involved in either. SHAME! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted October 5, 2016 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 The political fiscal mismanagement of the RESIDENTS/TAXPAYERS dollars are what brought the DCA into Harrison in the first place. Sharply rising tax bills are going to shock the residents. The same people are still in power and have gotten raises and promotions the whole time accumulating substantial wealth. The Harrison Fire Department wash a cash sucking pig the whole time and would still be if DCA had not put an end to the HFD patronage and nepotism mill. Meanwhile, the Harrison Police Department has been decimated to being ineffective and relying on cameras than actual Cops. A core group of several malcontent Officers started the ball rolling about 15 years ago and are now in the upper ranks. It's power, promotions and greed above hiring additional Officers. They sold out union solidarity for personal gain and young impressionable Officers who idolized them are now stuck in patrol for their entire career. Thers's a sucker born every minute. Any serious single incident event requiring less than a handful of Officers would leave the rest of the town defenseless and require mutual aid to respond to resident calls. Good luck with the response time. Why do the HPD and HFD need a nearly 1:1 ratio of supervisors to Officer or Firefighter? Once the HFD is officially disbanded the HPD needs demotions to free up money for hiring additional Police. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted October 7, 2016 Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 Harrison Fire Dept needs a Gofundme page for people to keep them bravest heroes putting out the fires and savings hundred of lives. Bravest is the heroes who run in flames when people run out. 9/11 heroes all of them HFD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Good Statement Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 On 10/4/2016 at 10:44 PM, Guest Guest said: The political fiscal mismanagement of the RESIDENTS/TAXPAYERS dollars are what brought the DCA into Harrison in the first place. Sharply rising tax bills are going to shock the residents. The same people are still in power and have gotten raises and promotions the whole time accumulating substantial wealth. The Harrison Fire Department wash a cash sucking pig the whole time and would still be if DCA had not put an end to the HFD patronage and nepotism mill. Meanwhile, the Harrison Police Department has been decimated to being ineffective and relying on cameras than actual Cops. A core group of several malcontent Officers started the ball rolling about 15 years ago and are now in the upper ranks. It's power, promotions and greed above hiring additional Officers. They sold out union solidarity for personal gain and young impressionable Officers who idolized them are now stuck in patrol for their entire career. Thers's a sucker born every minute. Any serious single incident event requiring less than a handful of Officers would leave the rest of the town defenseless and require mutual aid to respond to resident calls. Good luck with the response time. Why do the HPD and HFD need a nearly 1:1 ratio of supervisors to Officer or Firefighter? Once the HFD is officially disbanded the HPD needs demotions to free up money for hiring additional Police. Whoever wrote the above comments is correct. 1 of the malcontents on the HPD retired and another is soon to retire after taking most of the year off sick. There are 2 malcontents who are left who were sick leave abusers and negotiated the unlimited sick time. They screwed the good employees and helped to force out good supervisors so they could get promoted. Unlimited sick time had led to $400,000 in OT last year which could have been used to hire 7 Officers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 (edited) The decimation of the PD started in 199* after a Chief ****** AKA ***** ***** was promoted to Chief. He should have been the best ever. He aligned himself with the original malcontents. "I can run this Dept with 45 men!!!!!" What happened next was the Town's refusal to replace the manpower. Edited October 8, 2016 by KOTW Content. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 A few of the Cops usually don't take any overtime. With that being said, it's fair to say that each Officer makes about $15,000/year in overtime. Is this a result of excessive sick time abusers? How much overtime is given to the Harrison Firefighters? I hear it's substantial and there hasn't been a fire in over a year as far as I know. The Firefighters don't provide ambulance service either. Why all the overtime? WELCOME NEWARK FIRE DEPARTMENT! The Harrison Firefighters could always work at Walmart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Harrisonian Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 The fire department is in negotiations with the Town (and indirectly with DCA) on their contract. The Police Department however is not. How the State can threaten eliminating the fire department and transferring it to Newark just shows how the DCA has no clue. Trenton got $20 million in state aid. Peanuts to what Harrison got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Old Fart Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 Anyone who thinks that the DCA is for Harrison, well you're nuts. DCA are all political appointee double dippers who are told to say by the state or they will lose their jobs. Why do you think they dragged Newark into the equation when Harrison never had anything to do with Newark. And if you think your taxes will go down by eliminating HFD, you're also nuts. Save a few dollars on your tax bill like $150 but your homeowners insurance will increase $400. Just think when the house next to you is on fire, you know your house will be next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1 who knows. Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 19 hours ago, Guest Guest said: The decimation of the PD started in 199* after a Chief ****** AKA ***** ***** was promoted to Chief. He should have been the best ever. He aligned himself with the original malcontents. "I can run this Dept with 45 men!!!!!" What happened next was the Town's refusal to replace the manpower. Wrong, The DCA wanted the HPD to go down to 40 Officers, but the Chief at that time fought against it and the TO was set at 56 Officers and 7 civilian dispatchers. Check it out and you can verify.It was only after the politicians promoted a Chief over more qualified Officers were they able to decrease the TO to 38 Officers. That was in 2005. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kanye Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 The bravest Harrison Firefighters must be kept no matter what the cost. $200,000 a year is not enough for the almost certain death they face every minute of their life by the living breathing orange beast of fire. They eat smoke for breakfast, lunch and dinner. They run in blazing buildings on a daily basis with 100 pounds of gear on like Scotty tanks, halogen bars and axes. It's impossible to count the number of Harrison Firefighters who have sacrificed their lives while battling the constant infernos. They are Superhero bravest brothers and the closest thing to God on earth. Please raise taxes immediately to pay these heroes. The sky is the limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 On 10/3/2016 at 10:20 PM, Guest Harrisonian said: So the DCA wants to give the Harrison Fire Department to Newark. Harrison is finally getting its redevelopment off the ground and the State DCA who knows nothing about Harrison wants to attach our lives to those of the City of Newark. What happens when a bridge is down and the Newark Fire Department has to come all the way from Newark. What happens when Newark is busy with it's own fires? Is it coming over to Harrison first then Newark. Is Mayor Fife for this? What say the councilman? The Harrison Fire Department has been there since the 1800's and this plan is crazy. DCA you have messed up our Police Department and now you want to mess up the Fire Department. Mayor Fife were are your balls. The NFD will station firemen in Harrison's firehouses so there will be no loss in response time. You will get experienced firefighters. Harrison FF will have to apply for jobs with the NFD and if they are acccepted will be placed in Newark where they will actually gain experience. Many of them will opt out because they are not used to working. Sure, merging with the KFD would be ideal, but I have heard the KFD Chief doesn't want them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 The Kearny Fire Dept. doesn't want anything to do with the Harrison Firefighters. No surprise at all. The Harrison Firefighters believed for decades that the Kearny Firefighters liked and respected them. Truth be told the Kearny Firefighters outright rejected them. The DCA had to look to Newark for a token offer to take the few Harrison Firefighters that may be able to meet minimum Firefighter qualifications. The Harrison Firefighters were always on the bench and never in the game so they are inexperienced and untested. The Harrison Firefighters will now be Walmarts bravest. This is a victory for the residents of Harrison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 (edited) Simply refer to the DCA study @ the PD. Specifically the history of Dept section you will see the reference from Chief ******. Additionally, the failure to replace officers and staffing also began under his rocky tenure. Edited October 13, 2016 by KOTW Content. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scott Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 Merge West Hudson Fire & police dept! (Kearny/Harrison/East Newark) to one fire department & police dept! It will save the towns money & able to hire more patrols! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest OKU Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 (edited) On 10/10/2016 at 7:31 PM, Guest Guest said: Simply refer to the DCA study @ the PD. Specifically the history of Dept section you will see the reference from Chief ******. Additionally, the failure to replace officers and staffing also began under his rocky tenure. **, WHY DON'T YOU POST THE DCA STUDY OF THE PD. THE PUBLIC WILL SEE THAT THE DCA STATED THAT THE HPD WAS WELL RUN. IT WAS UNDER YOUR TENURE THAT MANPOWER DECREASED to 38 OFFICERS. Edited October 19, 2016 by KOTW Content. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fred Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 This thread of posts needs some evidence in it's statements. I'm sure there has to be a way of posting some real news stories from the Observer and the Star Ledger going back years. So to back up and clarify some of the truths expressed on this thread. If the current Chief and even the past Chief have anything to say in their defense on how they ran their depts. Personally I know of one great Police Officer, Who did the schooling, worked hard for years on duty and studied for future positions, But was demoted as a result of a few bad decisions. After all those years of devotion to the dept. What can people post from actual newspaper articles. If not, All this forum is a boring he said, she said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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